This is why we should bring back the death penalty

[bluewanda]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14918815/drug-addicted-cross-dresser-abused-lover-murder-son-hospital-ward.html

(One example of many.)

Everyone in prison is not like him.

It makes those who are too cowardly to accept reality, too fortunate to have ever dealt with monsters or real violence, too blinkered to understand that they should stay silent on issues they don't understand - it makes them feel better.

They can sip on a smoothie in their safe little bubbles, and nod sagely at the others of their ilk who have never faced these monsters, and tell themselves they are good people because they want to allow beasts to continue to destroy, taint and tarnish every human life they come in contact with. Rather than having the courage to accept that it is the right, moral, humane and kind thing to put them down.

I could say I wish they had to reap what they sowed and that defenders of these creatures actually had to come in direct contact with these monsters. But I am too ethical and moral and humane for that.

I just wish they would somehow realise that they are not, in any way, better people for being moral cowards who care about appearing nice far more than about the reality of the damage done to humans by allowing these creatures to live.

I've always been pro death penalty. A life for a life, as long as they have been proven guilty and there's absolutely no way they could potentially be innocent. Pedophiles/rapists should be castrated the second they are caught, murderers should be hung/sentenced to death and so fourth. Let's take United Arab Emirates, there is very little criminal activity taking place over there, because their prisons are absolutely vile to be in and you will lose your hand for as little as being caught stealing a lollipop. Crime rates would drop drastically if we brought back capital punishment. We're far too soft now, this is why crime is at an all time high.

How would the death penalty have prevented this child's death?

I've always been pro death penalty. A life for a life, as long as they have been proven guilty and there's absolutely no way they could potentially be innocent

The Birmingham Six were proven guilty, except of course they weren't. Good job there was no death penalty then.

Timothy Evans was not so fortunate.

The murder rate in the UK is decreasing.

It's amusing that she keeps quoting herself, posting a bunch of crazy insults and accusations, making it look like she's trolling herself.
There seem to be some bats screeching away in that belfry.

You mean no trials at all, just immediate castration without due process? That's creepy as hell.

It has long been established that the death penalty does not act as a deterrent. There are many studies which show this.

I might point out to you that there are no cases in which it's impossible for a person to be innocent. That would only be the case if the person was caught in the act by multiple, unimpeachable witnesses, which rarely, if ever, happens.

If you want a draconian regime like Saudi Arabia, you should be very careful what you wish for.

See a psychiatrist. You obviously have a lot of anger rooted in trauma and you're taking it out on strangers on the internet. That isn't healthy.
I think you actually do wish ill on people who don't support the death penalty, which is why you made that comment. When people say "I could say" something that's nasty, they really mean they want to say it but know they will be blasted for it. I do not believe you are as ethical and humane as you tell yourself you are. You're spitting hatred, bile and false accusations towards people just because they don't share your views. That is hardly ethical or humane. Get some proper help instead of rage-spewing on the internet for goodness sake.

It isn't just murderers who attack prison guards. All kinds of prisoners do that. So no, it would not make prisons any safer. Very often murderers, particularly killers of women and children and serial killers in general, will be the targets of other prisoners. Jeffrey Dahmer, for example, was forced to dress as a girl and sexually assaulted for years before finally being murdered. There are a great many cases of killers being murdered in prison or killing themselves because they couldn't stand to live if they were being preyed on like they preyed on the innocent.

It doesn't help when you have sentences of as little as seven years in prison being called "a life sentence".

If life meant life and prisons went back to being proper prisons, and not holiday camps, I think there would be far fewer people calling for a return of the death sentence.

No , we shouldnt have the desth penalty, they ahould pay for their crimes, one day at a time, rotting in prison.

Nothing says “you don’t know what’s going on” more than saying “prisons are like holiday camps” and not understanding that the sentence given in this case isn’t the time until these people are released but the time until there is the possibility of them being considered for parole.

I've asked her how many prisons she's been in. She hasn't answered.

We don't live in a society with sufficiently robust and infallible criminal justice systems to avoid executing innocent people, so no.

Why is someone that received a so-called "life sentence" being considered for parole after only seven years?

Because they spend their whole life on licence, meaning that they can be recalled to prison at any time if they breach the terms of their release or commit another crime.

A life sentence is not a whole life order.

The UAE don’t amputate hands as punishment.

Countries like Saudi and Iran that have extreme and draconian punishment often do have less recorded crime, but a large part of that is because things we consider a crime - particularly violence against women and children - are simply not crimes there. If we made it legal to beat your children, or control your female relatives, we’d have a lot less crime here too.

I don’t know about you but I think I prefer it here.

To be honest, for someone so outspoken and confident on the subject I’m surprised you don’t know…..

I wasn’t surprised

Oona doesnt have a clue! It’s entertaining if nothing else!

Or to put it another way, why is a sentence of as little as seven years termed a "life sentence" by our justice system? A life sentence should mean going to prison until you die. Come up with another name for a short sentence where they live with conditions attached which if breached could mean a return to prison.

And prisons should go back to being proper prisons, like dungeons, with bread, water and hard labour.

I think we can all see what an amazing success the death penalty has been in the US where half the states have the death penalty and their rates for murder and violent crime are far worse than ours.

So if the US abolished the death penalty the murder and crime rates would drop as a result?

Japan has the death penalty and very low crime.

Her argument would also be his defence in her awful world. He killed a baby that had his genes therefore he 1) was removing them from the gene pool 2) only killed another sub-human which I'm guessing wouldn't even be a crime

No they really shouldn't

prisoners would be hell bent on attacking staff in those conditions. I don’t go to work for that thanks

If the US abolished the death penalty my money is on there being no change to the murder and crime rates. Same in Japan. Same if we brought in the death penalty here. It's a shitty deterrent but it carries with it the horrendous risk of the state killing innocent people.