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Dads partner leaving him homeless after her death.

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Tray80 · 24/07/2025 00:41

Appology in advance for the huge thread but mainly feel like I need to vent so here goes! My dad and his partner have been together for 26+ years, living together in her home for 22 years. Although I was close to my dad as a child, our relationship dwindled as I approached my adult years. I guess he just stopped making an effort once he met my stepmum, as they tended to spend most of their spare time with her kids and grandkids.

Even though they only live 20 mins drive away they never visited including when my babies were born. They put mine and my kids birthday/xmas cards in the post every year. We speak on the phone a couple of times a month( when I make the effort) and I call around to see them half a dozen times a year, always bearing gifts on special occasions for eg birthdays, fathers day, Xmas etc, so basically it's always me making the effort. It used to really hurt my feelings when I'd see how much effort they both made for my stepmums side of the family but after 20 years of seeing it I just learned to live with it.

For the past few years my stepmum has had a terrible run of health. My dad has retired to take care of her as she has been wheelchair bound for quite some time. Unfortunately she's now been diagnosed with cancer and has been told that there's a 50/50 chance that she may not make it through her operation next week. Needless to say the whole family is devastated, including my dad. I called to see them last week and while walking in the garden my dad broke down and told me that he doesn't know how he'll carry on living without his partner. I can tell its taken a huge toll on his health too as he's stopped eating and taking care of himself and even had a nasty fall, which is so unlike him.

Today I received a call from my stepmum. I was really shocked when her number came up on my phone as she's only rang me twice in 23 years. She told me that she wanted to talk to me while my dad was asleep. She said she wanted to lay down the ground rules of how things would play out for my dad if she was to pass away during her surgery next week. It was explained that as the house was legally hers, as it was in her name, she would be leaving it in trust to her 2 children and grandkids, meaning that if she was to pass away, then my dad would be homeless. Apparently she had explained this to my dad a few weeks previous, which timed in with the fall and his sudden run of bad health. I believe this to be due to stress as he'd just been told that in 2 weeks he could possibly be loosing the love of his life, and now also his home. I know that my dad has always been aware that the house was hers and hers only but I don't think he was expecting to be turfed out so fast. I could kind of understand the rush if my stepmums family were struggling financially but they're all very well off. I asked about my dad's financial situation, if he had a bit of a nest egg to get himself on his feet if the worse was to happen and she said that she doesn't know, as they've always kept their finances separate. She mentioned she didn't trust him to take care of the house after his fall. She added that she thinks that once she's gone my dad will probably just give up on life and not be far behind. She also pointed out that hes very lucky that hes been able to live mortgage free for 20 years.

I can't begin understand the stress she's under with the surgery loomimg and the possibility of not making it out. I really don't want to see her in a negative light as I know my dad loves her more than life itself and they both need kindness and support more than anything right now, but the conversation I had with her last night has left me with a bitter feeling. She asked me not to tell my dad that we'd had that conversation, which I will respect. I just don't understand why she'd told me at all, as it clearly wasn't out of concern for my dad but rather a concern that he wouldn't leave the house when shes gone. I feel maybe she was prepping me as she knows he'll be landing on my door step when her kids sell the house, which in turn seems like a smack in the face when neither of them have ever made any effort with me or the kids. I just keep looking at my husband and trying to put myself in her situation. Could I purposely leave my husband financially destitute? I couldn't! The other part that is bugging me is that if all goes well for her then she'll be at home being cared for once more by my dad, the same man she was turfing out on the streets if the worse was to happen. I feel as though hes just being used. I really hate feeling this bitterness about the situation and I know I'm feeling overwhelmed by it all so hoping that someone else's take may help me see it all in a different light. Am I being unreasonable in feeling like this? If you made it to the end then thanks for sticking with me!🤷‍♀️🤯

OP posts:
countrygirl99 · 24/07/2025 05:26

As the OPs dad gave up his job to look after her he has probably been living on them to enable her to continue to live at home without paying the considerable cost of carers.

NextToNever · 24/07/2025 05:33

It’s not your problem. He hasn’t bothered with you and his grandchildren,which is unforgivable, so fuck him….and her. Stop being so kind. They will both use you when it suits, her now, and him if she dies and needs a home and other help. Fuck that! You reap what you sow and all that.

She has made sure to prioritise her children, your dad hasn’t. Even after she has shown herself to be very cold, willing to turf him out straight away if she dies, he still can’t see what she’s like.

Don’t give this anymore headspace, put yourself first and fuck both of them. He’s a fool and deserves to end up lonely.

autienotnaughty · 24/07/2025 05:41

He’s been very foolish, he’s enjoyed a rent free home for twenty years without making provisions for the future. His DP has ensured her future and an inheritance to her dc.

il be honest op I wouldn’t be inviting him to live with me in your situation. I would help him sort this though, he needs to go to the council and declare himself homeless. He can do it now or wait until after she is gone.

StrawberryCranberry · 24/07/2025 05:42

I'm surprised you're not more upset with your dad OP. You say he never visits you, despite living close by, and you're the one who puts all the effort into maintaining the relationship. He's the one you should be upset with IMO, not his partner. I think it's understandable that she wants to protect her assets for her children. He's been living rent free for years so she's already given him a lot of financial support.

99bottlesofkombucha · 24/07/2025 05:45

Iocainepower · 24/07/2025 05:25

Disagree.

They are not married. Therefore their finances and assets are separate and they have both known the whole time that this will be the case.

OP’s dad has been rent free for 20 years. No reason for him to be homeless, he should have savings to be able to find other accommodation that is not living off someone else rent free.

Edited

I think it’s terrible to take someone who’s been your carer for years and say WELL DUH YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN EARNING AND SAVING

Izz81 · 24/07/2025 05:46

If she was protecting her children etc she could have something drawn up that states he could remain in the house until time of his death and then the children would have the house. I knew someone who had this arrangement legally drawn up and especially if her children are well off. She seems quite cold to be honest to do that and you are right when you say it seems like your father has just been used. I would def seek legal advice, he could contest the will and there is a chance because of the situation that he could be entitled to something. You need legal advice though.

NeedZzzzzssss · 24/07/2025 05:46

NextToNever · 24/07/2025 05:33

It’s not your problem. He hasn’t bothered with you and his grandchildren,which is unforgivable, so fuck him….and her. Stop being so kind. They will both use you when it suits, her now, and him if she dies and needs a home and other help. Fuck that! You reap what you sow and all that.

She has made sure to prioritise her children, your dad hasn’t. Even after she has shown herself to be very cold, willing to turf him out straight away if she dies, he still can’t see what she’s like.

Don’t give this anymore headspace, put yourself first and fuck both of them. He’s a fool and deserves to end up lonely.

I have to agree with this sadly. It sounds like she's been very upfront the whole time, including saying that he's not paid for any maintained for the house. I don't think your Dad has been blindslighted, the only thing is he might not realise is how long he has to remain in the house, even then I find it very hard they haven't had a conversation about it. Maybe instead of talking directly about it, you can ask him what he plans do when Stepmum passes, and that he better start making plans. The more I think about you really shouldn't get involved, you owe him nothing, especially if he's been this stupid. He's not a victim at all.

Iocainepower · 24/07/2025 05:51

99bottlesofkombucha · 24/07/2025 05:45

I think it’s terrible to take someone who’s been your carer for years and say WELL DUH YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN EARNING AND SAVING

I totally understand where you are coming from, but this still doesn’t mean he is automatically entitled to her house unfortunately.

This conversation should have been had (was possibly had anyway) long before the partner became ill.

There are emotive factors here which you’re highlighting, but it doesn’t mean it’s not always essential to be sensible and logical with money and assets.

It’s not always straightforward is it. There would be lots of potential complications and hypothetical situations if the OP’s dad were to remain living in the house that was then owned by the partner’s DC.

Akiraw · 24/07/2025 05:52

Your Dad made his bed, now he has to lie in it.

Flamingoknees · 24/07/2025 05:54

If you haven't spoken to him about it, how do you know this is a surprise to him? Also, he might have a nest egg of savings - you don't know.
You can only blame him for his lack of contact with you and DC. The effort with her DGC has almost certainly been led by her. It was also probably her organising cards for your DC. My DM had this situation, even though she thoroughly disliked DIL (with good reason) she made some effort.
I'd speak to him after the OP, to ensure he has practical plans for his future.

Izz81 · 24/07/2025 05:54

NextToNever · 24/07/2025 05:33

It’s not your problem. He hasn’t bothered with you and his grandchildren,which is unforgivable, so fuck him….and her. Stop being so kind. They will both use you when it suits, her now, and him if she dies and needs a home and other help. Fuck that! You reap what you sow and all that.

She has made sure to prioritise her children, your dad hasn’t. Even after she has shown herself to be very cold, willing to turf him out straight away if she dies, he still can’t see what she’s like.

Don’t give this anymore headspace, put yourself first and fuck both of them. He’s a fool and deserves to end up lonely.

This message is as cold as OPs step mother. There could be many reasons why hes been like it, my dad is a huge introvert and struggles with relationships, thats not his fault but if i dont make the effort he wont….does that mean I cut him off and leave him to the wolves if he was with someone doing this? People are so cold, generally its people with the most money and asset wealth that are the coldest. In the end, where does it actually get a person to be like this?

AlertCat · 24/07/2025 05:56

When my mother passed it took a year for probate to be granted, and nothing from her estate was released before then. It will take time to settle if your stepmother dies, and your dad won’t be out immediately. That said, it would be a good idea for him to line up any ducks he has and at least work out what he’ll do in that situation (or, to be fair, if she doesn’t die- will he want to stay for as long as she is still living?). She sounds quite hard but maybe she was stung by her ex- we hear plenty of awful tales on here.

Iocainepower · 24/07/2025 05:58

AlertCat · 24/07/2025 05:56

When my mother passed it took a year for probate to be granted, and nothing from her estate was released before then. It will take time to settle if your stepmother dies, and your dad won’t be out immediately. That said, it would be a good idea for him to line up any ducks he has and at least work out what he’ll do in that situation (or, to be fair, if she doesn’t die- will he want to stay for as long as she is still living?). She sounds quite hard but maybe she was stung by her ex- we hear plenty of awful tales on here.

Great post

EliteTrinkets · 24/07/2025 05:59

hhtddbkoygv · 24/07/2025 03:08

Which category does OP's dad fall into?

a)
the spouse or civil partner of the deceased;

(b)
a former spouse or former civil partner of the deceased, but not one who has formed a subsequent marriage or civil partnership;]

F2(ba)
any person (not being a person included in paragraph (a) or (b) above) to whom subsection (1A) F3... below applies;]

(c)
a child of the deceased;

(d)
any person (not being a child of the deceased) F4who in relation to any marriage or civil partnership to which the deceased was at any time a party, or otherwise in relation to any family in which the deceased at any time stood in the role of a parent, was treated by the deceased as a child of the family;]

(e)
any person (not being a person included in the foregoing paragraphs of this subsection) who immediately before the death of the deceased was being maintained, either wholly or partly, by the deceased;

It sounds as though he falls into 1A

F5(1A)This subsection applies to a person if the deceased died on or after 1st January 1996 and, during the whole of the period of two years ending immediately before the date when the deceased died, the person was living—
(a)in the same household as the deceased, and
(b)F6as if that person and the deceased were a married couple or civil partners].]

Inheritance (Provision for Family and Dependants) Act 1975

An Act to make fresh provision for empowering the court to make orders for the making out of the estate of a deceased person of provision for the spouse, former spouse, child, child of the family or dependant of that person; and for matters connected t...

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1975/63#commentary-key-cda86072ddfb460b150ebb19b957da89

HelenaWaiting · 24/07/2025 05:59

BabyCatFace · 24/07/2025 05:10

Move out where?!

Well, there's this thing called "renting" .... 🙄

hattie43 · 24/07/2025 06:02

your dad has been playing happy families with another family for decades whilst all but ignoring yours , his flesh and blood . Tell him to jog on . This whole mess is not yours to sort .

whitewineandsun · 24/07/2025 06:03

knitnerd90 · 24/07/2025 03:13

Honestly, if she was upfront about this from the get-go, paid all the bills as you say, I don't think it's underhanded. She was clear about what would happen and did not spring on a surprise. She clearly never wanted him to have a claim to the property. In that case he should have protected himself and had a plan for the future. I'm sorry OP that it's turned out this way, but I'm not sure his partner is as unfair as is being made out.

This. She's looking out for her children. Sounds like that's more than he ever did for you.

Don't know why she's getting a hammering. Not her fault he didn't mske provisions for himself.

ohnotthisagain2025 · 24/07/2025 06:03

Been thinking about this some more and I can't believe the OP is going to "respect" her stepmother's demand to lie by ommission. Why? Why would you do that? She's called you twice in 23 years and doesn't give a crap if you're alive or dead. I am gobsmacked you didn't immediately message your dad and tell him the full conversation - and as I said before making sure to let him know he will NOT be living with you.

I don't get it, at all. You owe here absolutely nothing, and you certainly don't owe her being coerced into being complicit in her sly sneaking around behind his back. And yes, as someone said, she doesn't love him, nobody who loves someone would make the person they love homeless, no ifs or ands or buts.

It's definitely not your problem to fix though, any of it.

Iocainepower · 24/07/2025 06:08

ohnotthisagain2025 · 24/07/2025 06:03

Been thinking about this some more and I can't believe the OP is going to "respect" her stepmother's demand to lie by ommission. Why? Why would you do that? She's called you twice in 23 years and doesn't give a crap if you're alive or dead. I am gobsmacked you didn't immediately message your dad and tell him the full conversation - and as I said before making sure to let him know he will NOT be living with you.

I don't get it, at all. You owe here absolutely nothing, and you certainly don't owe her being coerced into being complicit in her sly sneaking around behind his back. And yes, as someone said, she doesn't love him, nobody who loves someone would make the person they love homeless, no ifs or ands or buts.

It's definitely not your problem to fix though, any of it.

Edited

As a PP said, OP’s dad is unlikely to be literally turfed out on the street the next week. Probate takes time to process, during which time, OP’s dad can find other accommodation.

As i’ve said in my PP, my mum is leaving her house to me, not her long term partner. That doesn’t mean she doesn’t love him. It means she loves her DC more.

ohnotthisagain2025 · 24/07/2025 06:09

Iocainepower · 24/07/2025 06:08

As a PP said, OP’s dad is unlikely to be literally turfed out on the street the next week. Probate takes time to process, during which time, OP’s dad can find other accommodation.

As i’ve said in my PP, my mum is leaving her house to me, not her long term partner. That doesn’t mean she doesn’t love him. It means she loves her DC more.

However, nobody who loves someone makes them homeless, that's just the way it is. It's fine, she doesn't love him, it just makes it even more of a reason that OP shouldn't keep her weird, sly secrets.

NeedZzzzzssss · 24/07/2025 06:09

Izz81 · 24/07/2025 05:54

This message is as cold as OPs step mother. There could be many reasons why hes been like it, my dad is a huge introvert and struggles with relationships, thats not his fault but if i dont make the effort he wont….does that mean I cut him off and leave him to the wolves if he was with someone doing this? People are so cold, generally its people with the most money and asset wealth that are the coldest. In the end, where does it actually get a person to be like this?

I feel cold AF towards OPs Dad too who has never given two shits about her or her child, but has managed to be a great stepdad and step grandad. Oh and suddenly now he's interested in a relationship with OP. I don't think that's a coincidence! Fuck him.

User37482 · 24/07/2025 06:09

She’s letting you know so that you know you are going to have to house him if she dies.

Honestly the man has barely made any effort with you, he’s been close to his step kids, they can sort him imo.

babyproblems · 24/07/2025 06:09

You should sit down with them both and say that she could put something in place that houses him until he dies before the house is passed on.

That would be the right thing for her to do. your dad has been foolish in not sorting this out previously!!!

If she refuses, you could say ‘ok- I will discuss with your children what their arrangements are’. Maybe for example they would be happy for your dad to pay some rent and remain there. She’s being quite vile in leaving him homeless so if she wasn’t playing ball I would speak to her kids directly and see what their thoughts are.

best of luck xx

Iocainepower · 24/07/2025 06:10

ohnotthisagain2025 · 24/07/2025 06:09

However, nobody who loves someone makes them homeless, that's just the way it is. It's fine, she doesn't love him, it just makes it even more of a reason that OP shouldn't keep her weird, sly secrets.

But I just said he won’t be ‘homeless’ will he.

Probate takes a while to process. During that time, OP’s dad can still live in the house while he searches for somewhere else.

As OP’s dad has been living rent free for 20 years, he should have provisions to find somewhere.

babyproblems · 24/07/2025 06:10

Yes I suppose also you don’t owe him much given his crappy behaviour.. If you feel as such you could leave him for his step kids to sort out. It’s not really your problem unless you want it to be xxx