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How much to lose your legs??

113 replies

GRex · 23/07/2025 22:40

I'll set the YABU/ YANBU rate to £10m. YABU still keeping them, they're mine. YANBU already picking out wheelchairs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo
Assuming there is truth to this - WTF??? Even rolling myself up to £50m I'm in visceral horror. The money is only useful in my opinion if you can cycle, run, climb steps to change a lightbulb, play football with your kids, and feel your legs there anytime you want.

So do you have a limit?

Neil Hopper is sitting in his lounge. He has prosthetic legs and is wearing a blue shirt and a pair of glasses.

Truro surgeon accused of fraud over his leg amputations

Neil Hopper, 49, is also accused of encouraging the commission of grievous bodily harm.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo

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Dangermoo · 23/07/2025 22:46

Creepy as hell, all this is.

Amiunemployable · 23/07/2025 22:53

I don't quite get it.

I mean, I get that he had his own legs amputated, and presumably, the article is suggesting that this was done for the sake of insurance fraud (claiming 466k from insurance for losing his limbs). It says he had sepsis, but the article suggests this wasn't the case, and the amputations were self-inflicted to commit said fraud. I get that. Though, I'd question how this was all orchestrated and who performed the amputations.

But what I don't get is the part that says he purchased videos of limbs being removed and persuaded a man to remove the limbs of other people. What's this all about, and how does this fit in?

Internaut · 23/07/2025 23:07

I assume we're going to get the whole horrible story when he comes to trial. Though frankly I doubt that I'll be reading it, it sounds utterly gruesome.

cwmflahwbml · 23/07/2025 23:12

Amiunemployable · 23/07/2025 22:53

I don't quite get it.

I mean, I get that he had his own legs amputated, and presumably, the article is suggesting that this was done for the sake of insurance fraud (claiming 466k from insurance for losing his limbs). It says he had sepsis, but the article suggests this wasn't the case, and the amputations were self-inflicted to commit said fraud. I get that. Though, I'd question how this was all orchestrated and who performed the amputations.

But what I don't get is the part that says he purchased videos of limbs being removed and persuaded a man to remove the limbs of other people. What's this all about, and how does this fit in?

I knew it was going to have something to do with the Eunuch maker website and Marius Gustavson. It was a website that streamed people having genitals and limbs removed.
People paid to watch the videos and live stream.
Only google it if you have the stomach for it.

The BBC article about Hopper says he paid for videos from that website. So there's the possibility that he was fascinated by the idea of having his own limbs amputated and went ahead and had this done and then tried to get the insurance money too.

To answer the OP's question: no amount of money would persuade me to have my legs amputated.

Radionowhere · 23/07/2025 23:13

The implication being that he had an amputation fetish. He was employed by the NHS to perform amputations. Horrifying

Sweetbeansandmochi · 23/07/2025 23:19

That’s what I took from the article the possibility he amputated patients legs - that didn’t need them to be done.

His fetish culminated all the way to the unnecessary removal of his own

I might have misread the reading between the lines though.

LoztWorld · 23/07/2025 23:19

If someone with an amputation fetish loses their legs are they in a perpetual state of arousal thereafter?

Mayve · 23/07/2025 23:22

LoztWorld · 23/07/2025 23:19

If someone with an amputation fetish loses their legs are they in a perpetual state of arousal thereafter?

I’ve reverse-wondered the same sort of thing about the ones with the eunuch fetish. Do they have their genitals removed and then look down and “oh, shit. I can’t get aroused by my fetish anymore”

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 23/07/2025 23:23

He sounds very mentally unwell.
I guess I'd have my price, but it would be many, MANY millions!

CalicoPusscat · 23/07/2025 23:29

The world seems really creepy when you read something like this.

No amount of money.

ccquad · 23/07/2025 23:32

I have actually lost my lower legs, and arms, to sepsis. Much to my surprise, our mortgage was paid off as a result (we had critical illness cover which I had forgotten about at the time). While this was extremely helpful, the payout in no way made up for the loss of my limbs.
im very curious as to how he was able to get the payment; I seem to recall having to submit official hospital documents to the insurers.

winewolfhowls · 23/07/2025 23:34

This is so weird, it must have been a lifelong obsession and a lot of commitment to get a job where you can satisfy your strange fetish like this.

winewolfhowls · 23/07/2025 23:36

ccquad · 23/07/2025 23:32

I have actually lost my lower legs, and arms, to sepsis. Much to my surprise, our mortgage was paid off as a result (we had critical illness cover which I had forgotten about at the time). While this was extremely helpful, the payout in no way made up for the loss of my limbs.
im very curious as to how he was able to get the payment; I seem to recall having to submit official hospital documents to the insurers.

I'm sorry that this happened to you, that's awful thing to go through.

girljulian · 23/07/2025 23:36

ccquad · 23/07/2025 23:32

I have actually lost my lower legs, and arms, to sepsis. Much to my surprise, our mortgage was paid off as a result (we had critical illness cover which I had forgotten about at the time). While this was extremely helpful, the payout in no way made up for the loss of my limbs.
im very curious as to how he was able to get the payment; I seem to recall having to submit official hospital documents to the insurers.

So sorry to hear this! If I might ask, how do you type? Is it eye gaze tech?

archyandmehitabel · 23/07/2025 23:36

He didn't perform his own amputation, it's the sepsis and how he acquired it that seems to be debated.

Usernameisunavailable · 23/07/2025 23:39

I saw a bizarre TV programme once on people who have a fetish for amputations and others who have some kind of mental disorder whereby they feel their healthy limbs are somehow alien / disgusting to them and are desperate to have them removed. (Sometimes even lying down on a train track when doctors refuse to amputate for no good reason.)

It seems this surgeon falls into one of these categories and has also been facilitating others of the same ilk. The insurance money (fraud) was probably just a ‘bonus’ not the actual reason for having his legs removed. It’s a weird, weird world out there, made even weirder by the wonders of the internet whereby these people can find each other and act on their strange impulses!

Lardychops · 23/07/2025 23:41

No amount of money for my legs - god no !

I could do a pinky finger for a million maybe…

JarvisIsland · 23/07/2025 23:45

I don’t think an insurance payout would be enough if it was in the tens of thousands, but tens of millions, absolutely, they can go. I know people who cycle with leg amputations, even do triathlon etc. I’m quite athletic and I reckon I’d be fit enough to rehab to a level that would still allow me to enjoy sport. I’d not have to work and whilst I absolutely don’t doubt that it would be difficult at times, and I don’t want to minimise anyone’s experience, based on previous sporting injuries, whilst it’s been a bit shit, painful, frustrating etc I’ve also enjoyed (for want of a better word) learning to do stuff again with rebuilt limbs. In the tens of millions you’d have enough for top end physio and the most advanced prosthetics and I think k that would make a massive difference.

On the other hand no amount of money would convince me to lose both arms and to be honest probably not just my dominant arm either. I need the motor skills and I really feel for people with upper limb issues. Whilst some (many) people do achieve a lot I personally just couldn’t get my head round all the fine motor stuff your hands do.

It’s a really interesting discussion and I absolutely mean no negativity to those who have gone through amputation and are struggling. I know that this is theoretical and is based on significant theoretical funds to help overcome issues.

WingsofRain · 23/07/2025 23:48

I’m already a wheelchair user, my legs are painful and useless so I’d happily exchange them for £10m.

It would sort out so many problems in my life, and even 1 million buys a lot of mobility aids!

archyandmehitabel · 23/07/2025 23:50

WingsofRain · 23/07/2025 23:48

I’m already a wheelchair user, my legs are painful and useless so I’d happily exchange them for £10m.

It would sort out so many problems in my life, and even 1 million buys a lot of mobility aids!

Was going to say similar, would consider them as I have legs affected by muscular dystrophy.

opportunisticcaketheif · 24/07/2025 00:00

archyandmehitabel · 23/07/2025 23:36

He didn't perform his own amputation, it's the sepsis and how he acquired it that seems to be debated.

I understood that he lied about the sepsis and he removed his own legs, unless I’ve misunderstood.

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 00:05

opportunisticcaketheif · 24/07/2025 00:00

I understood that he lied about the sepsis and he removed his own legs, unless I’ve misunderstood.

No his legs were removed in hospital by a vascular team.

TotHappy · 24/07/2025 00:09

Fucking HELL! I was treated by vascular surgeons at that hospital in 2018! They didn't amputate anything and it wasn't him but that still hits very uncomfortably close to home!

OSTMusTisNT · 24/07/2025 00:09

Critical health care insurance, mortgage paid off, NHS pension paid on early retirement. DLA, Blue Badge, Motability car, some long suffering lady running round after him.

Nah, not worth it even for all that.