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How much to lose your legs??

113 replies

GRex · 23/07/2025 22:40

I'll set the YABU/ YANBU rate to £10m. YABU still keeping them, they're mine. YANBU already picking out wheelchairs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo
Assuming there is truth to this - WTF??? Even rolling myself up to £50m I'm in visceral horror. The money is only useful in my opinion if you can cycle, run, climb steps to change a lightbulb, play football with your kids, and feel your legs there anytime you want.

So do you have a limit?

Neil Hopper is sitting in his lounge. He has prosthetic legs and is wearing a blue shirt and a pair of glasses.

Truro surgeon accused of fraud over his leg amputations

Neil Hopper, 49, is also accused of encouraging the commission of grievous bodily harm.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo

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VickyEadieofThigh · 24/07/2025 12:35

Butchyrestingface · 24/07/2025 09:53

To paraphrase Christine Keeler,

“Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they?”

Indeed. They HAVE to.

opportunisticcaketheif · 24/07/2025 13:30

Horserider5678 · 24/07/2025 07:10

I doubt he removed them himself! Amputating a limb is a difficult procedure which at the very least would require a spinal block, then there’s the ligation of arteries, sawing through bone all of which even with expert knowledge would be hard to perform on yourself! I suspect it will come out he’s part of a dark web cult and no doubt there will be other names from the medical profession come out!

People have been know to in extenuating circs I believe, but it is not clear who amputated them in any article I’ve read.

GRex · 24/07/2025 16:21

ChompandaGrazia · 24/07/2025 12:09

I will confess to being surprised that there are women who do this too. It’s usually a male thing.

The article referred to one woman, then a later person who was trans and "she". I expect the majority are men.

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AramintaBottersnike · 24/07/2025 16:45

Having seen how debilitating my DH's phantom pains can be, not to mention the impact on his mental health, then no amount of money would persuade me to willingly part with any of my limbs or even digits.

I truly cannot get my head around any of it Confused

GRex · 24/07/2025 17:16

ccquad · 24/07/2025 07:56

You are absolutely right: you can manage a lot more without legs than you can without hands. I say this with authority, having lost both! Your hands are so versatile that nothing can replace them. prosthetic legs (below knee) more or less can replace normal legs, with the restrictions of discomfort, needing to balance, and extra effort. Nothing replaces hands.

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You must find this odd fetishism particularly disturbing, sorry.

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ccquad · 24/07/2025 22:47

GRex · 24/07/2025 17:16

You must find this odd fetishism particularly disturbing, sorry.

Thanks, but not really. I have an online “presence” and have been approached there; I find it rather amusing and block immediately. What does disturb me is that I have had online contact with this dr; he admired the lights I put on my prosthetics at Christmas. My overwhelming feeling is sadness that he felt the need to have the amputations, especially from a position where he must have been aware of the ramifications. I suspect that the full story is much less cut and dried (unfortunate metaphor but it’s al I have!) than the headlines and reports at this stage suggest.

kittensinthekitchen · 24/07/2025 23:34

Anyone who finds this interesting (apologies if that is insensitive to those with experience of limb loss), maybe look into a young woman called Kelly Ronahan. She claims to have Bechet's, but it's actually very likely that she has Munchausen's/FII/Facticious Disorder and over the years has injured her own body to the result of both legs being amputated (If you do decide to look into it, please be warned, there are some HIGHLY GRAPHIC photos online, as she used to take pleasure in documenting her 'health issues')

GRex · 25/07/2025 05:56

ccquad · 24/07/2025 22:47

Thanks, but not really. I have an online “presence” and have been approached there; I find it rather amusing and block immediately. What does disturb me is that I have had online contact with this dr; he admired the lights I put on my prosthetics at Christmas. My overwhelming feeling is sadness that he felt the need to have the amputations, especially from a position where he must have been aware of the ramifications. I suspect that the full story is much less cut and dried (unfortunate metaphor but it’s al I have!) than the headlines and reports at this stage suggest.

I agree there may be a lot more to it.

It does seem like an advanced type of Munchausen.

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ChompandaGrazia · 25/07/2025 08:17

kittensinthekitchen · 24/07/2025 23:34

Anyone who finds this interesting (apologies if that is insensitive to those with experience of limb loss), maybe look into a young woman called Kelly Ronahan. She claims to have Bechet's, but it's actually very likely that she has Munchausen's/FII/Facticious Disorder and over the years has injured her own body to the result of both legs being amputated (If you do decide to look into it, please be warned, there are some HIGHLY GRAPHIC photos online, as she used to take pleasure in documenting her 'health issues')

I’ve not looked at the pictures but I did find someone on Reddit talking through what she had done. Poor girl is extremely mentally ill and having access to social media is not helping at all. I hope she is getting support now.

TheOriginalEmu · 28/07/2025 20:22

GRex · 24/07/2025 16:21

The article referred to one woman, then a later person who was trans and "she". I expect the majority are men.

It’s not a male thing. There are many women like this. In BIID online spaces I’d say it’s fairly evenly split from what I’ve seen.

Ginmonkeyagain · 04/09/2025 17:29

Well .... www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yvpx20le2o

GRex · 04/09/2025 20:58

£466k then!! Really though, it's clear that it was the sexual thrill, which I'd grasped a bit better from other posters already. It's incredibly disturbing, but I suppose most mental illnesses are disturbing when you comprehend what that means for an individual mind.

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ConstitutionHill · 05/09/2025 12:16

Amiunemployable · 23/07/2025 22:53

I don't quite get it.

I mean, I get that he had his own legs amputated, and presumably, the article is suggesting that this was done for the sake of insurance fraud (claiming 466k from insurance for losing his limbs). It says he had sepsis, but the article suggests this wasn't the case, and the amputations were self-inflicted to commit said fraud. I get that. Though, I'd question how this was all orchestrated and who performed the amputations.

But what I don't get is the part that says he purchased videos of limbs being removed and persuaded a man to remove the limbs of other people. What's this all about, and how does this fit in?

He admitted it all in open court. The only part he says he regrets it the dishonesty. He froze his legs at home with dry ice and persuaded colleagues it was a circulation issue. They completed the amputation and were pretty confused/suspicious but I guess that just shows how they close ranks.

He was found out by his emails being found in another investigation where he had been communicating with this sicko, dubbed "Eunuch Maker" telling about his sexual arousal around amputation and having purchased pictures of "castrations".
You can read all about it online. And we are supposed to believe that Neil Hopper, a surgeon routinely performing amputations, was NOT getting sexual gratification by doing so??

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