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How much to lose your legs??

113 replies

GRex · 23/07/2025 22:40

I'll set the YABU/ YANBU rate to £10m. YABU still keeping them, they're mine. YANBU already picking out wheelchairs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo
Assuming there is truth to this - WTF??? Even rolling myself up to £50m I'm in visceral horror. The money is only useful in my opinion if you can cycle, run, climb steps to change a lightbulb, play football with your kids, and feel your legs there anytime you want.

So do you have a limit?

Neil Hopper is sitting in his lounge. He has prosthetic legs and is wearing a blue shirt and a pair of glasses.

Truro surgeon accused of fraud over his leg amputations

Neil Hopper, 49, is also accused of encouraging the commission of grievous bodily harm.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo

OP posts:
WiddlinDiddlin · 24/07/2025 03:53

The hospital trust are saying he's not done anything unprofessional toward patients...

I think he's become obsessed with being an amputee, given himself sepsis perhaps...

I am confused about the grievous bodily harm and the encouraging someone to harm others - is that getting someone to lop off his legs, or encouraging someone to lop off someone elses body parts entirely?

I doubt the money was the driving factor though - the mental illness that leads him to think he should be an amputee is the major factor.

As for legs - you can have mine, they're mostly in the way and generally useless and without them id be under the weight limit for a stair lift which would be significantly more reliable than the existing legs. I'll do you them for a few million.

But I am already a wheelchair user, and they are causing me issues. I guess its a very different story if you have fully function legs and like running about!

QuizzlyBears · 24/07/2025 05:09

miraxxx · 24/07/2025 02:31

It is the body dysmorphia crowd and the Eunuch/null subset of the trans world. It is a pretty sick world and this creepy fraud of a doctor was connected to it. They say that men will never chop off bits of themselves for sexual gratification - well the evidence is that they are lying.

Where have you found a link between this and the trans community?

I’ve read several articles which suggest he injured his legs to induce the sepsis. Mind blowing.

NewsdeskJC · 24/07/2025 05:36

I worked for many years dealing with personal injury claims. Me and my colleagues were very firmly of the view that the compensation was never worth it for practically any injury. Money is the only thing on offer obvs and that doesn't buy you physical or mental health

babyproblems · 24/07/2025 06:23

Lardychops · 23/07/2025 23:41

No amount of money for my legs - god no !

I could do a pinky finger for a million maybe…

My DH has a theory that in France there is a lot of pinky finger amputee fraud 😂 this is because he claims he sees many men with only four fingers. I would not be surprised if you can have some sort of insurance payout for life for it tbh so maybe it’s a thing!!!

back to the whole legs - no amount of money for me. Also how grim- how can you have a fetish about this honestly. People are mentally unwell!!!

Cucy · 24/07/2025 06:45

For him, the money isn’t the driver.

Its all about the attention (didn’t he win an award for being so brave and is constantly fundraising etc) and he obviously has some sort of fetish too.

Tiddlywinkly · 24/07/2025 06:45

winewolfhowls · 23/07/2025 23:34

This is so weird, it must have been a lifelong obsession and a lot of commitment to get a job where you can satisfy your strange fetish like this.

That's what I thought

PerfectTuesday · 24/07/2025 06:53

No amount of money.

Rosecoffeecup · 24/07/2025 07:09

Every time I think I have forgotten about this group of freaks, another strand of the story appears in the press.

The sentencing remarks of Marius Gustavsin et al are grim reading

www.judiciary.uk/judgments/r-v-marius-gustavson-and-others/

Horserider5678 · 24/07/2025 07:10

opportunisticcaketheif · 24/07/2025 00:00

I understood that he lied about the sepsis and he removed his own legs, unless I’ve misunderstood.

I doubt he removed them himself! Amputating a limb is a difficult procedure which at the very least would require a spinal block, then there’s the ligation of arteries, sawing through bone all of which even with expert knowledge would be hard to perform on yourself! I suspect it will come out he’s part of a dark web cult and no doubt there will be other names from the medical profession come out!

BySassyGreenPanda · 24/07/2025 07:10

Mayve · 23/07/2025 23:22

I’ve reverse-wondered the same sort of thing about the ones with the eunuch fetish. Do they have their genitals removed and then look down and “oh, shit. I can’t get aroused by my fetish anymore”

That's quite the own goal.

ChompandaGrazia · 24/07/2025 07:16

I’m guessing the press can only report so much before it goes to trial. I’m willing to bet he was some kind of amputation fetishist. The whole thing of paying to watch videos of it seems like that. I think all the sympathy, awards and money was a nice bonus.

user1492538376 · 24/07/2025 07:24

Rosecoffeecup · 24/07/2025 07:09

Every time I think I have forgotten about this group of freaks, another strand of the story appears in the press.

The sentencing remarks of Marius Gustavsin et al are grim reading

www.judiciary.uk/judgments/r-v-marius-gustavson-and-others/

Oh he was part of this group - that is grim stuff.

GentleJadeOP · 24/07/2025 07:33

Radionowhere · 23/07/2025 23:13

The implication being that he had an amputation fetish. He was employed by the NHS to perform amputations. Horrifying

It’s absolutely foul and disturbing

Radionowhere · 24/07/2025 07:37

ScruffMuffin · 24/07/2025 01:41

This is a horrifying thought. I don't think we've heard the end of this story, by a long stretch.

The bland NHS statement sounds like a tick box. They've had no complaints obviously. Certainly doesn't mean there was no malpractice.

pinkdelight · 24/07/2025 07:38

QuizzlyBears · 24/07/2025 05:09

Where have you found a link between this and the trans community?

I’ve read several articles which suggest he injured his legs to induce the sepsis. Mind blowing.

The Atlantic article posted above talks about the whole spectrum from this kind of thing to trans angle (not a subset of that, just making connections, asking questions etc). It’s not about this case but pretty in-depth about the bigger picture. Thanks to the pp for posting it, interesting read.

Mangetouts · 24/07/2025 07:42

I can't imagine any world where I'd agree to amputate my limbs unless it was life-saving.

Mine don't work very well but to all those idiots who think the benefits you get are worth having a disability, take it from me they're not.

Sounds odd.

ccquad · 24/07/2025 07:46

girljulian · 23/07/2025 23:36

So sorry to hear this! If I might ask, how do you type? Is it eye gaze tech?

No, I tried it and it didn’t work for me because of my varifocal glasses. I can type with my elbow or use one of the many voice typing accessibility options. For short messages my elbow results in fewer corrections!

cc99xo · 24/07/2025 07:48

No amount of money. My 5 year old son heartbreakingly had his leg amputated a few years ago and I see his struggles and pain every single day.

ccquad · 24/07/2025 07:56

JarvisIsland · 23/07/2025 23:45

I don’t think an insurance payout would be enough if it was in the tens of thousands, but tens of millions, absolutely, they can go. I know people who cycle with leg amputations, even do triathlon etc. I’m quite athletic and I reckon I’d be fit enough to rehab to a level that would still allow me to enjoy sport. I’d not have to work and whilst I absolutely don’t doubt that it would be difficult at times, and I don’t want to minimise anyone’s experience, based on previous sporting injuries, whilst it’s been a bit shit, painful, frustrating etc I’ve also enjoyed (for want of a better word) learning to do stuff again with rebuilt limbs. In the tens of millions you’d have enough for top end physio and the most advanced prosthetics and I think k that would make a massive difference.

On the other hand no amount of money would convince me to lose both arms and to be honest probably not just my dominant arm either. I need the motor skills and I really feel for people with upper limb issues. Whilst some (many) people do achieve a lot I personally just couldn’t get my head round all the fine motor stuff your hands do.

It’s a really interesting discussion and I absolutely mean no negativity to those who have gone through amputation and are struggling. I know that this is theoretical and is based on significant theoretical funds to help overcome issues.

You are absolutely right: you can manage a lot more without legs than you can without hands. I say this with authority, having lost both! Your hands are so versatile that nothing can replace them. prosthetic legs (below knee) more or less can replace normal legs, with the restrictions of discomfort, needing to balance, and extra effort. Nothing replaces hands.

Tweedledonkey · 24/07/2025 08:01

I’m sorry, but I really do have to ask… is that his real name? Or has he changed it to match with his interests somewhere down the line? Neil (kneel) …Hopper… really? Come on, that’s too much of a coincidence surely?

Cinaferna · 24/07/2025 08:04

Bizarre. And horrific.
No amount of money.
Money is not more important than having a healthy body.

Mirabai · 24/07/2025 08:11

£466,000 is less than 5 years salary for a consultant NHS surgeon. So whatever this man did it for it was not the money.

Roastiesarethebestbit · 24/07/2025 08:20

This is so weird. And such a brief article! So much detail missing!

cwmflahwbml · 24/07/2025 08:25

His name probably came up when they started investigating The Eunuch Maker as he'd paid for videos and encouraged Marius Gustavson to amputate people's limbs. There will have an email and transaction trail.
Then police will have connected this with him having his own legs amputated and they will have investigated him further.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 24/07/2025 08:28

Crazy story. Sadly, it doesn't even shock me anymore. The lengths some people will go to for a cheap thrill.
Weirdo.
His poor patients have my sympathy.