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How much to lose your legs??

113 replies

GRex · 23/07/2025 22:40

I'll set the YABU/ YANBU rate to £10m. YABU still keeping them, they're mine. YANBU already picking out wheelchairs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo
Assuming there is truth to this - WTF??? Even rolling myself up to £50m I'm in visceral horror. The money is only useful in my opinion if you can cycle, run, climb steps to change a lightbulb, play football with your kids, and feel your legs there anytime you want.

So do you have a limit?

Neil Hopper is sitting in his lounge. He has prosthetic legs and is wearing a blue shirt and a pair of glasses.

Truro surgeon accused of fraud over his leg amputations

Neil Hopper, 49, is also accused of encouraging the commission of grievous bodily harm.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75r21ww30vo

OP posts:
ChompandaGrazia · 24/07/2025 08:36

summertimeinLondon · 24/07/2025 00:50

Interesting article related to this question:

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/

I’m quoting this as I’ve just read the article and it is fascinating. Long but worth your time to read it.

Simonjt · 24/07/2025 08:41

He needed his legs to be amputated, the case relates to fraud as he claimed the sepsis was caused by something else, as this would lead to a greater payout.

He did not have healthy legs amputated!

Ilovecakey · 24/07/2025 08:53

cwmflahwbml · 24/07/2025 08:25

His name probably came up when they started investigating The Eunuch Maker as he'd paid for videos and encouraged Marius Gustavson to amputate people's limbs. There will have an email and transaction trail.
Then police will have connected this with him having his own legs amputated and they will have investigated him further.

But I dont get why he needed to pay to see someone else amputate limbs when he literally did it himself for his job?

SylvanianFamiliesBalcony · 24/07/2025 08:55

I would probably accept a few million to maybe lose half of one leg. For the sake of my child's financial security in the future.

But anyway, for this guy it sounds like he didn't get rid of his legs for the money, he was into getting rid of them for his own reasons (maybe a fetish) regardless, and thought he might as well try and get a payout for it while he's at it. It's pretty wild that he managed to do so much damage to his healthy legs it convinced a surgeon to remove them due to 'sepsis'. I don't think this chap is very mentally well.

There's a whole community out there of people into this, having it done to them and watching it be done to others. One subsection is men that call themselves 'nullos', they have a fetish for having their genitals removed and there being nothing there. It doesn't appeal to me in any way I can say! But it's clearly not a one off abberration, it's a thing.

SylvanianFamiliesBalcony · 24/07/2025 08:57

Ilovecakey · 24/07/2025 08:53

But I dont get why he needed to pay to see someone else amputate limbs when he literally did it himself for his job?

Probably didn't get off removing gangrenous limbs from elderly patients not of his preferred gender? Some people into this really have specific desires, like seeing a healthy young man have his penis removed. Stuff like that.

Mirabai · 24/07/2025 09:00

Simonjt · 24/07/2025 08:41

He needed his legs to be amputated, the case relates to fraud as he claimed the sepsis was caused by something else, as this would lead to a greater payout.

He did not have healthy legs amputated!

As per the report the implication is that the injuries to his legs were “self inflicted”. So he started out with healthy legs.

Mayve · 24/07/2025 09:09

Ilovecakey · 24/07/2025 08:53

But I dont get why he needed to pay to see someone else amputate limbs when he literally did it himself for his job?

He probably couldn’t fap himself silly whilst at work in the middle of performing surgery

LancashireButterPie · 24/07/2025 09:12

Lardychops · 23/07/2025 23:41

No amount of money for my legs - god no !

I could do a pinky finger for a million maybe…

Nah little finger is the anchor to your grip strength. Try to make a fist leaving your little finger out and see how weak it is.
Lose your ring or middle finger instead.

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:25

WiddlinDiddlin · 24/07/2025 03:53

The hospital trust are saying he's not done anything unprofessional toward patients...

I think he's become obsessed with being an amputee, given himself sepsis perhaps...

I am confused about the grievous bodily harm and the encouraging someone to harm others - is that getting someone to lop off his legs, or encouraging someone to lop off someone elses body parts entirely?

I doubt the money was the driving factor though - the mental illness that leads him to think he should be an amputee is the major factor.

As for legs - you can have mine, they're mostly in the way and generally useless and without them id be under the weight limit for a stair lift which would be significantly more reliable than the existing legs. I'll do you them for a few million.

But I am already a wheelchair user, and they are causing me issues. I guess its a very different story if you have fully function legs and like running about!

Sounds like he paid for videos so that is 'encouraging' the perpetrator with payment.

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:26

Cucy · 24/07/2025 06:45

For him, the money isn’t the driver.

Its all about the attention (didn’t he win an award for being so brave and is constantly fundraising etc) and he obviously has some sort of fetish too.

I agree, I watched an interview and the main things he mentioned over an over again was the care and attention.

miraxxx · 24/07/2025 09:36

TheOriginalEmu · 24/07/2025 03:30

It has nothing to do with being trans. People with BIID are not trans.

This guy has direct links with Gustavson and the eunuch crowd.One of the charges is about that. You may want to take it up with the WPATH - the most authoritative body with trans medicine why they included chapters on eunuch care in their guidance. The eunuch and null movements are definite subsets of the trans movement. Gustavson did what he did for sexual kinks and money. Take your BIID and stuff it.

GRex · 24/07/2025 09:36

summertimeinLondon · 24/07/2025 00:50

Interesting article related to this question:

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/

Fascinating, thanks for adding this. It is interesting to read about the body dysmorphia links, and the distinction between types of people. The guy who had his porn fetish cured by prozac was also interesting; I wonder if medication has been fully trialled for the paraphilias.

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BellissimoGecko · 24/07/2025 09:40

He has an amputation fetish, which ended up with him having his own healthy legs amputated. Dunno who did the amputations though.

This is going to be a gruesome case for jurors…

R0ckandHardPlace · 24/07/2025 09:44

Radionowhere · 23/07/2025 23:13

The implication being that he had an amputation fetish. He was employed by the NHS to perform amputations. Horrifying

That was my first thought. How many patients have had limbs needlessly amputated by this monster?

SylvanianFamiliesBalcony · 24/07/2025 09:48

R0ckandHardPlace · 24/07/2025 09:44

That was my first thought. How many patients have had limbs needlessly amputated by this monster?

The trust investigated and said none. From their investigations it appears his personal proclivity for this fetish had no impact on clinical care/patients.

Butchyrestingface · 24/07/2025 09:51

R0ckandHardPlace · 24/07/2025 09:44

That was my first thought. How many patients have had limbs needlessly amputated by this monster?

Go in with an ingrown toenail, come out with a prosthetic leg.

Gah.

Butchyrestingface · 24/07/2025 09:53

SylvanianFamiliesBalcony · 24/07/2025 09:48

The trust investigated and said none. From their investigations it appears his personal proclivity for this fetish had no impact on clinical care/patients.

To paraphrase Christine Keeler,

“Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they?”

pinkdelight · 24/07/2025 09:56

The hospital trust are saying he's not done anything unprofessional toward patients...

Course they are. Hospitals have never been known to cover up malpractice.

Worldgonecrazy · 24/07/2025 10:00

Radionowhere · 23/07/2025 23:13

The implication being that he had an amputation fetish. He was employed by the NHS to perform amputations. Horrifying

Exactly this. Creepy as fuck!

I used to be unbothered by having male medics, but having learned over the years just how many males are fetishists of one type or another, I now opt for female medics whenever possible.

DonnaBanana · 24/07/2025 10:00

I’d flog my legs for £10m but not sure I’d give up arms for even £100m.

CalamityGanon · 24/07/2025 11:20

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 09:26

I agree, I watched an interview and the main things he mentioned over an over again was the care and attention.

Yes and when interviewed on ‘Good Morning’ he said life had ‘become more interesting’ since he’d had his legs amputated.

ChompandaGrazia · 24/07/2025 12:00

Simonjt · 24/07/2025 08:41

He needed his legs to be amputated, the case relates to fraud as he claimed the sepsis was caused by something else, as this would lead to a greater payout.

He did not have healthy legs amputated!

But, according to the news on radio 4 he deliberately infected his legs to cause the sepsis

ChompandaGrazia · 24/07/2025 12:09

archyandmehitabel · 24/07/2025 10:29

Has anyone else read this, there are women that have had it done too: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/ Not saying it's in the same vein as a vascular surgeon having the condition.

I will confess to being surprised that there are women who do this too. It’s usually a male thing.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 24/07/2025 12:35

Ilovecakey · 24/07/2025 08:53

But I dont get why he needed to pay to see someone else amputate limbs when he literally did it himself for his job?

I was wondering that. It doesn't make sense.

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