To quite like being fat?

[Flumpflimpo]

There was one time that i was 9 stone. This year i am the heaviest i have ever been.

Every week for that last year i have been thinking that i must lose weight, and i have been trying every diet , and thinking about food all the time.

I was so stressed from it all that i decided to give myself and not think about dieting for one month.

I was just thinking this month, I quite emjoy being fat. Im not morbidly obese, i am fat.

I feel nice and warm and cozy

When i was thin, i rememember feeling cold and having low energy a lot.

Has anyone else felt the same?

Were you in Thailand in the 1930s or something?

People don't think fat = rich. It's not expensive to live on a diet of 7-11 junk food. There's a reason students in SE Asia often gain a lot of weight when they go to college...

Thai prostitutes having sex with obese farangs means nothing. Fat men get tired faster, so there's less work. Take a look at the famous men that young Thai women actually find attractive - they're definitely not fat.

You sound like someone who knows their own mind and doesn't give into the demands of others.

you don't need to care what "society thinks" because you'll never have to justify yourself to "society".

if your positivity towards your body weight and shape changes by Sept, then that's your impetus to lose some poundage, not because of some belief that "society" is judging you. You do you.

Id get your cholesterol checked out though, sometimes being overweight can cause a rise in your bad cholesterol if you're eating the wrong food.

Well I for one am really happy for you OP - I'm thin (BMI 20) and struggle to keep weight on and I hate it. I'm always cold, tired, come down with bugs constantly, no energy to exercise, feel weak etc and I don't feel like my body is cosy and comfy enough for my kids. My mum was overweight and hated her body so much, I loved it though, she was so warm and cuddly and comforting. I would have loved for her to feel the way you do about yours. Don't listen to everyone here hating on you for your weight - if your body feels good to you, enjoy it. Let's hope we meet in the middle sometime!

I agree with the op.

I was always painfully thin til around 10 years ago. Size 6-8 at 5 ft 10. My BMI was underweight and I had to see a dietician. Constantly cold and tired.
I have not changed my diet at all, I only started exercising less and turned 40.

My BMI is now 23-24. I'm a size 12-14.
I don't know my exact weight, I'm not bothered, but due to health issues it's monitored by the GP.
In the last 6 months 3 'friends' have suggested I need to lose weight. My GP said definitely not to when I asked him.
If 3 people have outright said to me that they think I'm fat then I think society has a really big problem with body image.

Im not fat, I'm healthy.
I don't think your BMI is hugely unhealthy at 30. Its not ideal, but it's not something I'd stay up at night worrying about. Id just start walking an extra half an hour a day. But if you don't care, you don't care, and there's nothing wrong with that. After being cold for most of my life I very much understand where you're coming from when you say it's nice to be warm!

You do you. To hell with what anybody else thinks. You're active, you eat healthy and you're happy. You've got it all.

This thread inspired me to check my BMI. I'm a bit dismayed that it's just barely in the healthy range. I have been losing weight without trying due to tummy trouble. So I plan to eat more to make sure I stay in the healthy range. Thanks for the inspiration OP. Will make nachos for dinner tomorrow. Nom nom nom!

Great you are confident in your body. I have never really had body issues, when I got to my late thirties I started to gain weight (from an 10 to around a size 14.) I wanted to be slimmer but didn’t care enough so diets failed. I exercise (yoga/pilates/walking/gym) but it never seemed to make a difference. This year I’ve had some health issues and wanted to improve my dietary habits to help my health issues. Because I had a reason I cared about I have been able to adjust to a high protein diet/low UPF diet and have found I’ve lost weight anyway. I eat loads but the right foods.

People feel threatened when you say you're happy being fat. Their whole self worth revolves around being thin, and they put the majority of their time and effort into staying that way, so when you say you're happy being fat you make them confront that they're wasting their lives on chasing and keeping this ideal... When they don't have to. But they're too thin obsessed to put that mindset in the backseat for a second.

BMI is a load of crock. Not even talking about "because of muscle mass!" it's just crock. People in the overweight category apparently are more at risk of diseases... But have better longetivity? Lol. Wasn't it all measured on men anyway? Don't even know.

Trying to make everyone want to lose weight and froth at the mouth about it is just a good money maker, and that sways everything. The diet industry is worth billions.

All that said, I'm not happy being fat in myself. I hate how it feels on my body. I do have anorexia though, which is a mental illness, so you know that's probably the reason for that lol. Not even contributing to the diet industry, because I can lose weight easily for free, and they don't like me doing that either - fine for you to starve yourself when you're paying 300 a month for injections to help you do it, but apparently it's oh so bad when you don't need to pay to maintain a massive calorie deficit.

Just that one thing should show how weightloss and "health" have been warped and corrupted by capitalism. Fast and effective weight loss when you pay for it = good! Fast and effective weightloss when you don't pay for it = bad! You should be struggling with it, so you feel the need to pay for it.. Give us your money!

The majority of the people paying for the injections could lose weight for free too if they just ate much, much less than they think they need to... Like the injections make them do.

Baffles me how it's not spoken about more... I don't eat much less than the average person paying for injections, but they're fine and healthy, and I need to be in a hospital because I'm starving myself. Apparently...

If this is what “happy” looks like… I’ll pass thanks. The OP comes across as angry, defensive and sweary. All because she starts a thread about how happy she is with her weight but then gets very agitated if asked about weight.

13 stone at 5’3 is not a healthy weight. I know the OP is supposedly “happy” and fine if you’re on your own with no dependents, but no way would I be throwing my hands up and embracing obesity if I had loved ones who would likely be impacted if I succumbed to one of the may health issues directly linked to obesity.

OP is on another thread being aggressive and chippy and triggered by the word "lucky". This is either not a happy person or someone not posting entirely in good faith...

Intriguing that within 20 mins the OP went from intending to lose weight from September…. to fuck it I’m going to stick at this weight with no intention to lose weight.

I get it OP. I was borderline obese my whole adult life, and that was me and my body. Then, due to societal pressure, I lost weight and got to the very middle of the healthy BMI range. I got every virus going. Sleep was more difficult. I was more susceptible to UTIs. I was eating a healthy diet and getting the right exercise, but my energy was crashing.
But the most difficult and shocking bit for me was to note how I suddenly became visible in society. Everyone was much much nicer to me- baristas, parents at the school gates, random people on the street. It really opened my eyes to how society judges women for their size- and I have to say, reading this thread has really reminded me of that. It's a matter for the individual, of course, whether you want to be fat or not, but to be dismissive of a fat person's opinion, just because you don't feel the same, is deplorable.

Imagine telling a human being that they couldn't possibly be feeling what they just told you they're feeling! Patronising and unkind.

OP's BMI is 32 not 30.

At 24 BMI and your height you're about 76kg. To get to a BMI of 32 like the OP you'd have to put on 26kg or more than 4 stone.

I don't think your situation and OP's are really comparable, do you? Nor would a half hour walk make up the difference.

This is a brilliant post, lots to think about!

People in the overweight category apparently are more at risk of diseases... But have better longetivity? Lol.

This isn't true. The stats were wrong because they included heavy smokers who are frequently slim but unhealthy and die young.

Yes, IIRC they were also confounded by the fact that cancer patients who are about to die tend to lose a large amount of weight, so cause and effect is reversed by people who cite those studies.

Really, theres often threads on here about women feeling they dont find their OH attractive anymore due to him putting on weight and letting themselves go. Its not unusual and what you like you like, you cant help what you like.

Just read this
I see what you mean
as I say, if this is what “happy” looks like - no thanks!

People feel threatened when you say you're happy being fat. Their whole self worth revolves around being thin, and they put the majority of their time and effort into staying that way, so when you say you're happy being fat you make them confront that they're wasting their lives on chasing and keeping this ideal... When they don't have to. But they're too thin obsessed to put that mindset in the backseat for a second.

What an incredibly silly thing to say.

Are you fat?

Please stop thin-shaming. That's unacceptable.

And the opposite of obese is NOT thin.
It's a healthy weight.

I don't know anyone a healthy weight who obsesses.
They enjoy cooking healthy food, enjoy exercise.

You think you're speaking for people who are a healthy weight?
Think again.

There is more to health and wellbeing than weight. It’s worth bearing in mind that-
— BMI is flawed, especially for women (designed on/by/for male bodies)
— loneliness has been said to have a similar negative effect on health as smoking
— being joyful is impossible when you’re anxious or worried/stressed, and without joy is life even worth it?
— we are all going to die, some of us before we’re ready. While we can take steps to be as well as we can, there is a balance to be struck between physical and mental optimal health.

It seems to me that @Flumpflimpo is finding some joy, is moving her body and feels well in it. Surely that’s what’s important?

Try as you might you can't defend being obese.

Nice try though,

I had to absolutely harangue my husband to admit he prefers me not fat. If he puts on a few pounds, I’ll point it out. It’s something we’ve always promised each other we’d do, yet he remained schtum so as not to upset me.

He’s the best person I know, the best person anyone I know knows. Not remotely a dick nor a disappointment.

I’d not like it if he got fat. Doesn’t mean I’d stop loving him.

The idea that everyone who isn't obese spends their whole life obsessing over their weight is ridiculous 🙄

I am of Asian extraction. We have lower BMI ranges because of the cardiovascular risk of us having belly fat. It’s not good to be fat in India. It’s damn dangerous.

Yep. I tip into pre-diabetes at a BMI of 24-25. Asians don't do well with even slight fat.
At the end of the day everyone has to do what suits them, I guess. Nothing to do with society. Everything to do with health.

"Healthy" is a fairly broad range. I'd tend to use "slim" or "lean" as a description. To me, "thin" suggests a low body mass either at the low end of normal or below that into being underweight.

I find it interesting that the language on threads like this tends to split into a dichotomy of fat/ thin and ignore the middle ground.

25 years ago as a young adult, my BMI was 20 which was natural, healthy and proportionate for my age and build. In my mid-40s, I don't want to go back down there again. My body is hormonally different. It's been changed by pregnancy/ birth. It's been changed by exercise and building muscle to hopefully maximise my health potential in older life.

I'm not going to waste middle-age chasing "thin". It's nothing but frustration and isn't healthy.

Neither do I want to be "fat". There's the expense of clothes and physical discomfort in the way I move. I had heavy pregnancies and at 5'2" went from 9st2 to 13st (via 8.5st via nausea). It was awful. I lost muscle mass in the nausea stage when I was too queasy to eat and too exhausted to move, and by the time I emerged from that phase SPD kicked in. I had a proportionately large baby, a lot of fluid and of the 4.5st gained, I was left with 2st of "me" weight a couple of weeks after the birth. It was a horrible, painful experience. By the time I hit 13st in the final week, I couldn't use the sofa if there was no one in the house to pull me off it! I appreciate that that's a different biological process to gradually building up to that weight through fat gain, but would never opt to put my body through the stress of being that weight again. (Medical complications are a different matter.)

The middle ground is broad. Being short, it's less generous than it is for taller people, but I can still with care, maintain a fairly "normal" lifestyle. I eat a "normal" range of foods with managed portions but there are times for accepting and declining cake/ alcohol/ sweet drinks etc. I can't consume everything freely, but neither do I have to decline all "treats". I don't spend my life muttering "I really shouldn't" before tucking into a lettuce leaf. It has to be more managed than in my youth, but it doesn't constrain my life either. Exercise I do for the physical and emotional feel-good factor now and investment into the future.

Other peoples' bodies are their own business. They have their own biology, medical and lifestyle issues. But biologically the closer to "healthy" range the better. That doesn't mean everyone sitting neatly between 20-25 though.