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To be alarmed that he wants to move in.

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OldLobster · 22/07/2025 12:58

Maybe I'm being too territorial / selfish but I'd like some second opinions...I'd like to add from the start that no children are involved in this muddle!

Met DP about 2 years ago. He had been separated for several years at that point but he and ex-wife put off selling the house while their daughter took A levels and then went to uni locally...during this time he slept in a little annex they had in the garden...no room for doubt there as I have met and spoken to ex-wife who seems nice (but very different personality to DP) she was aware of me from the start and I have observed said annex. Their daughter has now finished her course and started a job away from home and they have just put their house on the market.

From the start DP Used to come round to see me unannounced...staying over gradually became 3 then 4 then 5 nights a week although he would go home to shower, wash clothes etc. At one point he asked if we could spend more time together and I said I'd prefer to keep it at 3 or 4 nights a week...which he ignored. Yes, at this point I should have stood my ground but pathetically, I did not. My house is tiny and I work from home. We split cooking and food costs but I found it quite tiring because possibly due to upbringing and poor boundary management I always felt in hostess mode and behaved in the way I would if a friend or relative came to stay....I love my family but I'd be exhausted if they stayed for months...and miss my own space. I've tried to explain this to him...that this setup is very different from the dynamic or sharing a home together (as I've done with previous partners).

Predictably, and here we enter territory where cocklodger comments are likely and justified, the bills went up, heating, oven on all the time etc. I'd be a little more prudent when living alone. He didn't offer any help or any little token as I would when staying with a friend. Slightly tricky as he is seldom here during the day except at weekends. I've not given him a key. He doesn't live here but spends most of his free time here amd every night.

I felt embarrassed mentioning that the bills had gone up which i did after 3 months, he did actually push back a little when I did so but then started giving me the amount by which they had increased. I felt shoddy even asking.

I'd like a break from this arrangement ...so have suggested that before we look at him moving in properly or of getting somewhere together, we perhaps spend 3 months sharing an off season rental (there are lots of holiday cottages where we live and during the winter these are no more expensive than my mortage). Our incomes are similar but I have a fairly large mortgage that takes up half of mine and DP will, in addition, be getting bank interest on his house sale money. This little break would give me a chance to see what its like to live together rather than in my home where most of the costs and upkeep naturally fall to me. As mentioned, my house is tiny...there's barely room for my belongings
Dps bank interest alone would cover most of the rental and it would only be for a few months.

He likes the idea however has stated that he doesn't want to pay for it all and will only entertain it if i pay half..instead he'd like to stay at mine, paying 400 per month (my mortgage is 3 x this).

I'm not usually tight-fisted but in this case am I, for feeling that he should really be offering to take on this responsibility, just fora few months, as I have done so for 18 months?

OP posts:
Cherrysoup · 22/07/2025 17:10

OnceIn · 22/07/2025 15:17

I’d have a very strong conversation with him. No moving in and no more than 2 nights a week, you can stay with him in his new house for 2 nights a week and then you get 3 nights to yourself.

just text him ‘Hi Mike, the living arrangements isn’t working for me, now you’re in a position to buy let’s change things up a bit. You can stay at mine Monday and Tuesday, I’ll stay with you in your new house Thursday and Friday and that way we both get a bit of downtime too.

If he doesn’t agree tell him to sling his hook

Seriously, this! He is taking the piss and relying on you financially. You need to consider that he ignored your boundaries and has practically moved in despite you saying no. Why have you let him do that? I don’t think moving in is what you really want.

MsPavlichenko · 22/07/2025 17:11

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 17:01

Agree.. it does get worse but just for transparency though, he has offered to help clean and I said not to bother. I live in a quirky little house that is so tiny I have to put things in strange places. Cleaning requires grabbing cleaning items out of my bedroom..that kind of thing. It's not that I fear him routing around it's just that it would take longer to explain the process than to conduct it. He cooks half the time though different from food I'd typically eat. So he does pull some weight.

That’s him cooking things he wants to eat, it’s not him pulling his weight. Nothing about this is right. He’s essentially been grooming you, and you’re seeing it as normal, maybe a bit off as opposed to completely unacceptable.

If you’ve not done the Freedom Programme then this is the time to do it, even online.

Don’t concede any more. He has been cock lodging for almost the entire relationship. I’d get rid, but if you’ve do want to continue insist on your terms. Living separately, separate finances, with time spent away together if you want. He’s unlikely to change though.

tooloololoo · 22/07/2025 17:12

How suffocating
it all suits him too

run for the hills
you’re on edge. I feel on edge reading this

Juniperberry55 · 22/07/2025 17:12

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 22/07/2025 17:06

I bet he hasn't even mentioned any arrangements for his daughter, just assuming that he is king of the house. YOUR house. Please get rid of this red-flag-festooned cocklodger-in-waiting. Preferably today. Best of luck

Of course not because as soon as op agrees he can move in what hers is his and what's his is his. He's made that pretty clear. As soon as he's moved in and continues paying the £400 a month contribution it would be terribly rude to not allow his daughter to stay, right?!

It will be far harder to grow a back bone and tell him to get on his bike when his possessions are all there and he hadn't got another place to live
Op needs to tell him now that he needs to find his own place it is not her responsibility to house him

DisappearingGirl · 22/07/2025 17:12

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 14:39

Exactly. Sage advice. Back peddling isn't possible now.

I think you can totally back peddle in the sense of not living together, or not for now. You can both have your own places and just see how it goes.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 22/07/2025 17:13

Saw yours after I'd written mine, but You said it more succinctly than me @orangewasp 😀

TheRealBossMama · 22/07/2025 17:14

Nope.

So he wants you to pay half of his rent but he's only prepared to pay 1/3 of your mortgage?

Even my children would say that's unfair.

I would bin him.

Muffinmam · 22/07/2025 17:15

How about you live in your place and he can buy his own place and you can visit him? Why do you need to live with him? Why can’t he live by himself??

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 17:15

Thanks to everyone who has been kind enough to bother posting especially when I'm way too old to get myself in this muddle....I wasn't even desperate for a relationship..it was abandonment issues stemming from childhood (like many people have) a stupid level of politeness and a fear of conflict that led me to this situation.
Like I said I am way too old to have ended up in the position.

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Whammyyammy · 22/07/2025 17:17

He's a massive CF Cockfosters and taking you for a fool, but you already know that.

Donttellempike · 22/07/2025 17:18

He is the kind of person who sees your generous nature as opportunity.

If you really want to have a relationship with him , separate living arrangements only.

Ho sounds like a snake wrapping himself slowly around you. Get rid of him. He sounds horrible

CoffeeBeansGalore · 22/07/2025 17:19

He then inferred that a lot of women expected to be 'kept'...and told me to go and find some rich man if that's what i wanted. I have never wanted to be supported and find it very uncomfortable when people have tried to treat me in the past.

Excuse me??????

He's taking advantage of you, yet accusing you of wanting to be kept?
Dump his ass & let him pay his own living expenses. Cheeky freeloading toad.

MyQuirkyTraybake · 22/07/2025 17:19

Does he have money problems? I'd ask him.

Serpentstooth · 22/07/2025 17:19

£400! CF x 10. I'm probably nicer than him OP. Can I move in for 400 squids all found? Meanwhile I'll sell my own house. Or maybe rent it out? I will pocket all the dosh and insult you as you seem to expect it. Lose him, please, you're worth more than this.

Juniperberry55 · 22/07/2025 17:20

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 17:15

Thanks to everyone who has been kind enough to bother posting especially when I'm way too old to get myself in this muddle....I wasn't even desperate for a relationship..it was abandonment issues stemming from childhood (like many people have) a stupid level of politeness and a fear of conflict that led me to this situation.
Like I said I am way too old to have ended up in the position.

You haven't ended up in any position yet
You can still say no to him moving in. I'm almost willing to bet that if you stay firm that he needs to get his own place and live there for a while before you'd even consider moving in together, he will not be happy, he will probably argue with you and make out that you're a bad person. He may then try to sweet talk you, promise he'll do more, pay a bit more maybe. Just stay firm, no he needs to get his own place and you can review in the future. He may well decide to end the relationship to find the next woman to sponge off. If that happens, you should be glad you saw his true colours. If he is a good man he will accept that boundary, find a house and take some responsibility for himself and maintain the relationship and given time you may decide to move him in with more equal payment and responsibilities, but I don't think that's how it will play out

Jollyhockeystickss · 22/07/2025 17:21

Say to him he needs to rent his own place for 3 months he can get a summer let or airbnb, say u want to spend time with.him in his terroritory as yours is too small, i would also from now on say that you date ie go on dates and he doesnt stay at urs but ur happy to stay at his, just make up some white lies you feel crowded in ur house, you spend too much time there, you need to get out after work, basicly hes not allowed at yours and see how he goes, i was on his side until he said you want to be a kept woman! Youre bloody keeping him!!!

Spindrifts · 22/07/2025 17:21

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 17:01

Agree.. it does get worse but just for transparency though, he has offered to help clean and I said not to bother. I live in a quirky little house that is so tiny I have to put things in strange places. Cleaning requires grabbing cleaning items out of my bedroom..that kind of thing. It's not that I fear him routing around it's just that it would take longer to explain the process than to conduct it. He cooks half the time though different from food I'd typically eat. So he does pull some weight.

From what I am reading, you are still defending him but you are looking at the minutiae and not the bigger picture. It is the bigger picture that will get you the life you deserve. There is no point in coming on a forum like this, reading through the answers and not see the elephant in the room.

TwistedWonder · 22/07/2025 17:21

Every single time there’s a thread about a cocklodging CF bloke it reads ‘he’s such a gear man, we get on so well, when it’s good it’s good etc’ followed by BUT and a list of more red flags than a communist party rally

Rabbitsockpeony · 22/07/2025 17:22

My god, are you serious? Why would you even want to entertain the idea of anything except ending the relationship?!

You’re far, far too meek @OldLobster

iamnotalemon · 22/07/2025 17:22

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 17:15

Thanks to everyone who has been kind enough to bother posting especially when I'm way too old to get myself in this muddle....I wasn't even desperate for a relationship..it was abandonment issues stemming from childhood (like many people have) a stupid level of politeness and a fear of conflict that led me to this situation.
Like I said I am way too old to have ended up in the position.

Don’t beat yourself up. It’s hard to see the situation for what it is when you are in it but it’s not too late to turn it around and put yourself first in this situation if you are unhappy.

Mrsbloggz · 22/07/2025 17:24

He wants to exploit your good nature & knows that his best chance is to get you 'locked down' so that you cant back out of the arrangement without taking a loss/hit of some kind.
That is why he is against a trial period which would enable you to see what he's really like before you commit yourself.
He wants you to be fully committed before you realise your mistake.

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 17:27

MyQuirkyTraybake · 22/07/2025 17:19

Does he have money problems? I'd ask him.

No. Which almost makes it worse.

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TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 22/07/2025 17:28

He goes and rents or buys his own house and you both pay your own bills, you spend equal time at each others house.
What @Juniperberry55 said.

Though after his comments implying you are some sort of gold digger after hosting his sorry ass for 18 months, I'd be telling him that you want to end the "relationship".

Prepare yourself, there's DEFINITELY going to be some sort of huge housing crisis and he'll need to stay with you for a couple of weeks while he sorts something out.

Ivesaidenough · 22/07/2025 17:28

VictoriaEra · 22/07/2025 14:02

Oh no. Please don’t be me. I had everything as you describe in the early days. Including the extra expense.

Me too. 😞

Autumnnow · 22/07/2025 17:28

In fact, just your thread title "..alarmed that he wants to move in" is enough. If your gut reaction is alarmed then the answer is clear.

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