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To be alarmed that he wants to move in.

647 replies

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 12:58

Maybe I'm being too territorial / selfish but I'd like some second opinions...I'd like to add from the start that no children are involved in this muddle!

Met DP about 2 years ago. He had been separated for several years at that point but he and ex-wife put off selling the house while their daughter took A levels and then went to uni locally...during this time he slept in a little annex they had in the garden...no room for doubt there as I have met and spoken to ex-wife who seems nice (but very different personality to DP) she was aware of me from the start and I have observed said annex. Their daughter has now finished her course and started a job away from home and they have just put their house on the market.

From the start DP Used to come round to see me unannounced...staying over gradually became 3 then 4 then 5 nights a week although he would go home to shower, wash clothes etc. At one point he asked if we could spend more time together and I said I'd prefer to keep it at 3 or 4 nights a week...which he ignored. Yes, at this point I should have stood my ground but pathetically, I did not. My house is tiny and I work from home. We split cooking and food costs but I found it quite tiring because possibly due to upbringing and poor boundary management I always felt in hostess mode and behaved in the way I would if a friend or relative came to stay....I love my family but I'd be exhausted if they stayed for months...and miss my own space. I've tried to explain this to him...that this setup is very different from the dynamic or sharing a home together (as I've done with previous partners).

Predictably, and here we enter territory where cocklodger comments are likely and justified, the bills went up, heating, oven on all the time etc. I'd be a little more prudent when living alone. He didn't offer any help or any little token as I would when staying with a friend. Slightly tricky as he is seldom here during the day except at weekends. I've not given him a key. He doesn't live here but spends most of his free time here amd every night.

I felt embarrassed mentioning that the bills had gone up which i did after 3 months, he did actually push back a little when I did so but then started giving me the amount by which they had increased. I felt shoddy even asking.

I'd like a break from this arrangement ...so have suggested that before we look at him moving in properly or of getting somewhere together, we perhaps spend 3 months sharing an off season rental (there are lots of holiday cottages where we live and during the winter these are no more expensive than my mortage). Our incomes are similar but I have a fairly large mortgage that takes up half of mine and DP will, in addition, be getting bank interest on his house sale money. This little break would give me a chance to see what its like to live together rather than in my home where most of the costs and upkeep naturally fall to me. As mentioned, my house is tiny...there's barely room for my belongings
Dps bank interest alone would cover most of the rental and it would only be for a few months.

He likes the idea however has stated that he doesn't want to pay for it all and will only entertain it if i pay half..instead he'd like to stay at mine, paying 400 per month (my mortgage is 3 x this).

I'm not usually tight-fisted but in this case am I, for feeling that he should really be offering to take on this responsibility, just fora few months, as I have done so for 18 months?

OP posts:
Daisymail · 22/07/2025 16:44

purplecorkheart · 22/07/2025 13:15

Honestly you don't need to try the three months thing. He has no respect for you. Does not respect your boundaries, ignores your requests. Puts himself first. Do not let him move in with you even in the short term. Get rid of him.

This.

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 16:44

pinkdelight · 22/07/2025 16:11

So when you say: £400? You're having a laugh. You can't live anywhere for that.
It'd be enlightening to hear his justification, for why he thinks it's worth it to you. I bet it involves making you feel tight for even deigning to ask him for a fair rate and whole load of expecting you to do the best by him while he does the worst by you. He is not a team player and that's the fundamental quality needed from a good partner. Everything else is just nice while it's all going the way he wants.

When I mentioned this he stressed that my bills wouldn't increase that much by him staying here and so I would have some 'spare' money each month. I'd estimate this is be maybe £100. He said nothing would change from the current setup as he'd put a lot of his things in storage

He then inferred that a lot of women expected to be 'kept'...and told me to go and find some rich man if that's what i wanted. I have never wanted to be supported and find it very uncomfortable when people have tried to treat me in the past.

OP posts:
wizzywig · 22/07/2025 16:46

Now you know why his wife was nice to you

Zucker · 22/07/2025 16:47

He's negging you to shut you up. Hoping that you prove you're not like those other women that expect to be kept. He's not a nice guy and it sounds like you have slotted nicely into the next wife slot for him.

Juniperberry55 · 22/07/2025 16:49

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 16:44

When I mentioned this he stressed that my bills wouldn't increase that much by him staying here and so I would have some 'spare' money each month. I'd estimate this is be maybe £100. He said nothing would change from the current setup as he'd put a lot of his things in storage

He then inferred that a lot of women expected to be 'kept'...and told me to go and find some rich man if that's what i wanted. I have never wanted to be supported and find it very uncomfortable when people have tried to treat me in the past.

Good god OP it just gets worse. So he expects you to keep him for £400 and provide maid service. Fuck that.
If you want to keep the relationship then tell him to find his own place and it isn't up for discussion.
But let's face it, he sounds like an absolute arsehole and you'd be better off without him

Just do not let him move in and do not spend any money trying to appease him by any convoluted holiday home for several months.
He goes and rents or buys his own house and you both pay your own bills, you spend equal time at each others house.

Personally I would just exit this relationship pretty damn quick, his attitude is awful

Richiewoo · 22/07/2025 16:49

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 16:44

When I mentioned this he stressed that my bills wouldn't increase that much by him staying here and so I would have some 'spare' money each month. I'd estimate this is be maybe £100. He said nothing would change from the current setup as he'd put a lot of his things in storage

He then inferred that a lot of women expected to be 'kept'...and told me to go and find some rich man if that's what i wanted. I have never wanted to be supported and find it very uncomfortable when people have tried to treat me in the past.

Put him him in the bin. He's a cf. Wants to live with you practically rent free. Tell him to fuck off and get his own place.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 22/07/2025 16:52

I think he needs to get his own place for a year and then you reassess.

3luckystars · 22/07/2025 16:55

I’m so glad you posted. Well done.

Sometimes no action is needed, the person just reveals all themselves. When you say it doesn’t suit you for him to move in, the gloves will be off and he will start saying all kinds of manipulative things. Be watchful and he will out himself for what he is.

I’m sorry if you actually liked him. And again, so glad you posted here. It’s not even about the money he is totally using you and doesn’t listen or respect your wishes, and is also twisting things to get his way. At least you know now. Good luck to you x x

istheresomethingishouldsay · 22/07/2025 16:55

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 16:44

When I mentioned this he stressed that my bills wouldn't increase that much by him staying here and so I would have some 'spare' money each month. I'd estimate this is be maybe £100. He said nothing would change from the current setup as he'd put a lot of his things in storage

He then inferred that a lot of women expected to be 'kept'...and told me to go and find some rich man if that's what i wanted. I have never wanted to be supported and find it very uncomfortable when people have tried to treat me in the past.

So essentially, he wants to be 'kept' instead.

Please point that out when you dump him today. Please.

3luckystars · 22/07/2025 16:55

Exactly!! He is talking about himself! The big reveal, he is like the wizard of oz.

Multispool · 22/07/2025 16:56

Kindly OP, please reflect on your standards. You never wanted this and are now expected to accept it on his terms. And worse than that, his comment about women expecting to be kept reveals his great misogyny all the while you have been keeping him! Self serving, hypocritical arse who puts himself above you every time. I mean that can’t be a partner for life - not good enough for you. His comments made you think about your values - nothing up with you so start thinking about what they say about him and his view of women / you. The only point of a partner is to love you and to show it by making you feel better about yourself and by putting you first. Has he ever managed that?

Spindrifts · 22/07/2025 16:58

Please get yourself a new glasses prescription. The rose tinted ones just aren't focussing properly any more, Seriously, you deserve better. All I can read is simpering from him about what he needs. What do you need? What gets you out of bed in the morning? What are you passionate about? Those are the things that should be driving your life. Believe me, when you get to being an old bird like me, and have been around the block a few times, you see them coming. Please, please, live your best life.

Autumnnow · 22/07/2025 16:58

inkognitha · 22/07/2025 13:04

Don’t even try the 3 months thing
He has already shown you who he is
He’s a CF ready to take advantage when you say nothing and who only contributes ad minima when you ask for fairness

This says it all.

I think you should just tell him to find his own place and you can divide your time equally between both houses. He pays for everything at his home, and you at yours.

He'll say no.

AcquadiP · 22/07/2025 16:59

Oh my days. I also have a small house which is plenty big enough for me and my dog. I've also lived with someone who was tight with money and lazy around the house and have no wish to live with anyone again. My home is my bit of turf, my peace and quiet, my sanctuary. I probably am terroritorial especially when it comes to my dog. It amazes me that some men think they have the right to tell me that my dog shouldn't sleep on the coach or go upstairs when I've always allowed her to do so and when it's her home, not theirs. Guard your space OP and kick this one to the curb before he muscles his way into moving in with you full time. As for £400 a month, he would be extremely lucky to find anywhere semi-decent to rent for that amount where I live. He's a chancer.

Trethew · 22/07/2025 16:59

And what happens after the family house is sold and his daughter wants to come and stay with her dad for a few days?

He has to get his own place

FoxAches · 22/07/2025 17:00

Juniperberry55 · 22/07/2025 16:49

Good god OP it just gets worse. So he expects you to keep him for £400 and provide maid service. Fuck that.
If you want to keep the relationship then tell him to find his own place and it isn't up for discussion.
But let's face it, he sounds like an absolute arsehole and you'd be better off without him

Just do not let him move in and do not spend any money trying to appease him by any convoluted holiday home for several months.
He goes and rents or buys his own house and you both pay your own bills, you spend equal time at each others house.

Personally I would just exit this relationship pretty damn quick, his attitude is awful

All this. Listen to your gut, OP.

OldLobster · 22/07/2025 17:01

Juniperberry55 · 22/07/2025 16:49

Good god OP it just gets worse. So he expects you to keep him for £400 and provide maid service. Fuck that.
If you want to keep the relationship then tell him to find his own place and it isn't up for discussion.
But let's face it, he sounds like an absolute arsehole and you'd be better off without him

Just do not let him move in and do not spend any money trying to appease him by any convoluted holiday home for several months.
He goes and rents or buys his own house and you both pay your own bills, you spend equal time at each others house.

Personally I would just exit this relationship pretty damn quick, his attitude is awful

Agree.. it does get worse but just for transparency though, he has offered to help clean and I said not to bother. I live in a quirky little house that is so tiny I have to put things in strange places. Cleaning requires grabbing cleaning items out of my bedroom..that kind of thing. It's not that I fear him routing around it's just that it would take longer to explain the process than to conduct it. He cooks half the time though different from food I'd typically eat. So he does pull some weight.

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Sgreenpy · 22/07/2025 17:02

Even if you want to continue in a relationship with this man, what is the benefit TO YOU from living together?
Tell him you don't want to live together full time, it sounds like this is not what you want.
Encourage him to find his own place (rent or buy) and be strict about when he can come to yours and vice versa.
Otherwise he's just going to move in and take advantage of you, pay the minimum, have plenty of money and you're sharing your space and not getting much out of it - apart from £100 a week.
If he starts to live with you full time you'll also lose your 1 adult council tax reduction (25%) - which could be a significant sum over the year.
Take charge please OP.
Good Luck.

orangewasp · 22/07/2025 17:03

He then inferred that a lot of women expected to be 'kept'...and told me to go and find some rich man if that's what i wanted

The irony of this! Absolutely fucking cheek implying you're the one on the take...I'd bin him for that comment alone, who the hell does he think he is.

VoltaireMittyDream · 22/07/2025 17:04

Zucker · 22/07/2025 16:47

He's negging you to shut you up. Hoping that you prove you're not like those other women that expect to be kept. He's not a nice guy and it sounds like you have slotted nicely into the next wife slot for him.

This.
OP, this man is awful.
You sound like a fantastic person.
Give him the boot.
See how easy it is for him to find someone to keep him in the manner to which he's become accustomed.

Juniperberry55 · 22/07/2025 17:04

@OldLobster ask yourself, what is in it for you?
We can all see the benefits for him for £400 he gets a roof over his head, a woman to cook, clean, do his laundry, sex. No responsibility and lots of left over income to blow however he feels fit
For you - £400, but the raised bills offset that. Maybe you enjoy the sex, but other than that, is there anything that would be beneficial to you about him moving in. If the answer is no. Then it is in your control to tell him no

Zempy · 22/07/2025 17:05

Cocklodger in waiting

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 22/07/2025 17:05

"He then inferred that a lot of women expected to be 'kept'...and told me to go and find some rich man if that's what i wanted."

The sheer and utter cheek of the man! He's the one leeching off you, making you embarrassed if you, after waiting for some time to him to volunteer, ask him to contribute to the rising house hold expenses since he starting staying with you. Which is as often as HE likes, and more often than you said you'd like. He dismissed that because to respect YOUR wishes in your own home, didn't suit him while he navigated an awkward situation with his ex wife.

What a fucking rude thing for a so called partner a person (who has been exceedingly generous and undemanding, some may say too generous),
What is that to say to someone who you claim to want to move in with full time? Go and find some rich man if you want to be a kept woman.
There's no talk of love, affection or respect there.

You know you are not the freeloader in this situation right?
He is ... so think about WHY he said that - to shut down any further talk from you about sharing the financial costs of living together...He's trying to show you that if you raise the nasty topic of money again he will have no restraint in embarrassing you for being so materialistic and greedy.

He's already spent time and effort wheedling his way in and set the terms and conditions fully in his favour and now he doesn't want you even attempting to spoil his advantageous deal. To me that seems like he has no respect for you. You are useful to him, your feelings, your right to financial fairness, doesn't matter, He must keep the sweet deal he's worked for.

FFS.. He's the "kept" man... or trying his damndest to be... show him to the nearest bin.

Derbee · 22/07/2025 17:06

He sounds like he’s using you. I would have zero discussion about the ins and outs of things, or money etc.

Why should you be out of pocket to try any living arrangement? Why should you spend time packing everything up and renting your house out etc?

Make it clear, and simple. You have a house. He needs a house too, however he wants to do that when his old house sale goes through (buy or rent).

Keep seeing eachother (if you want to) and go over to his when you want to be “hosted”. If that’s a problem for him, you know where you stand, and you can end the relationship without any of the admin involved of if you’d uprooted your life into a rental etc.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 22/07/2025 17:06

Trethew · 22/07/2025 16:59

And what happens after the family house is sold and his daughter wants to come and stay with her dad for a few days?

He has to get his own place

I bet he hasn't even mentioned any arrangements for his daughter, just assuming that he is king of the house. YOUR house. Please get rid of this red-flag-festooned cocklodger-in-waiting. Preferably today. Best of luck