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To be alarmed that he wants to move in.

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OldLobster · 22/07/2025 12:58

Maybe I'm being too territorial / selfish but I'd like some second opinions...I'd like to add from the start that no children are involved in this muddle!

Met DP about 2 years ago. He had been separated for several years at that point but he and ex-wife put off selling the house while their daughter took A levels and then went to uni locally...during this time he slept in a little annex they had in the garden...no room for doubt there as I have met and spoken to ex-wife who seems nice (but very different personality to DP) she was aware of me from the start and I have observed said annex. Their daughter has now finished her course and started a job away from home and they have just put their house on the market.

From the start DP Used to come round to see me unannounced...staying over gradually became 3 then 4 then 5 nights a week although he would go home to shower, wash clothes etc. At one point he asked if we could spend more time together and I said I'd prefer to keep it at 3 or 4 nights a week...which he ignored. Yes, at this point I should have stood my ground but pathetically, I did not. My house is tiny and I work from home. We split cooking and food costs but I found it quite tiring because possibly due to upbringing and poor boundary management I always felt in hostess mode and behaved in the way I would if a friend or relative came to stay....I love my family but I'd be exhausted if they stayed for months...and miss my own space. I've tried to explain this to him...that this setup is very different from the dynamic or sharing a home together (as I've done with previous partners).

Predictably, and here we enter territory where cocklodger comments are likely and justified, the bills went up, heating, oven on all the time etc. I'd be a little more prudent when living alone. He didn't offer any help or any little token as I would when staying with a friend. Slightly tricky as he is seldom here during the day except at weekends. I've not given him a key. He doesn't live here but spends most of his free time here amd every night.

I felt embarrassed mentioning that the bills had gone up which i did after 3 months, he did actually push back a little when I did so but then started giving me the amount by which they had increased. I felt shoddy even asking.

I'd like a break from this arrangement ...so have suggested that before we look at him moving in properly or of getting somewhere together, we perhaps spend 3 months sharing an off season rental (there are lots of holiday cottages where we live and during the winter these are no more expensive than my mortage). Our incomes are similar but I have a fairly large mortgage that takes up half of mine and DP will, in addition, be getting bank interest on his house sale money. This little break would give me a chance to see what its like to live together rather than in my home where most of the costs and upkeep naturally fall to me. As mentioned, my house is tiny...there's barely room for my belongings
Dps bank interest alone would cover most of the rental and it would only be for a few months.

He likes the idea however has stated that he doesn't want to pay for it all and will only entertain it if i pay half..instead he'd like to stay at mine, paying 400 per month (my mortgage is 3 x this).

I'm not usually tight-fisted but in this case am I, for feeling that he should really be offering to take on this responsibility, just fora few months, as I have done so for 18 months?

OP posts:
Pedallleur · 23/07/2025 21:31

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 21:09

He still has baths here...but the bills increased mainly due to whacking the heating up, going through all the logs I'd stockpiled for winter in a month, dishwasher on twice a day sometimes, using food of mine for breakfast and incidental things I'd usually save for a treat, films on amazon prime, 40 pounds alone a month in coffee pods when I'd spend 10....it sounds penny pinching but quickly mounted up to.a couple of hundred pounds. If I reacted he'd say 'well, we're not students on the breadline ' making me feel tight.
He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months.

No wonder he wants in. Hot bath, crackling log fire (we are running low on logs Old lobster, can you chop a few?) and sipping on his latte. All paid for mostly by the woman whose roof he is living under. No way is he renting if he can help it. It's paradise where he is and it's on the op's ticket. Dishwasher on twice a day? How many pots is he using. 3 of us here and the dishwasher is on prob 4 X a week.

AlertCat · 23/07/2025 21:34

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 21:28

My piss is boiling hot with anger for you!
Woman you are paying to keep this man! 🤢

Yes, even meek old me is getting angry now and it takes a lot to make me angry. It's probably at least a year overdue.

Glad to hear it, but be warned- you may find more anger than you initially think is there!

Good luck with your new boundary enforcement. I promise you that it will totally be worth it. You’ll regain your peace of mind along with your space and your freedom, and you’ll wonder why you ever thought you wanted a man at all!

Lucelady · 23/07/2025 21:34

OP is he at your house tonight?

If he is make sure tomorrow you tell him you're busy.

SpinachSpinachMoreSpinach · 23/07/2025 21:36

Yes, where is he right now?

Does he have a key? If so, first thing tomorrow get the locks changed.

Pack up any stuff he has at your house. Text him to come and pick it up.

You really need ot grow a pair, @OldLobster !

Littlejellyuk · 23/07/2025 21:40

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 21:28

My piss is boiling hot with anger for you!
Woman you are paying to keep this man! 🤢

Yes, even meek old me is getting angry now and it takes a lot to make me angry. It's probably at least a year overdue.

Parasites tend to feed off their host and extract all the nutrients for themselves. 🤢
The parasite relies on the host for survival and it benefits from this set up, while the host is completely depleted.

Lady, this man is a parasite. 💯
Please stop him from bleeding you dry.
He will only take take take.
GET RID AND LTB. YESTERDAY.

3luckystars · 23/07/2025 21:40

Look, we can help you come up with a few sentences to get rid of him. You are going to have to get him out. He is a total leech.

Don’t worry about how it happened, it just has and you know now, you must get him out. You are being mugged.

AnotherDayInParadise43 · 23/07/2025 21:45

"Hi gaslighting tw*t, I recognise this may come as a surprise to you but I'm ending this relationship, today. This is a final decision effective immediately, it is not something open to negotiation and I won't be made to feel bad about it. Here are your things, goodbye."

Theoldbird · 23/07/2025 22:12

'well, we're not students on the breadline' making me feel tight.

You know by 'we' he means you, not himself. Because he is leeching off you. you're losing so much money subsidising this low value man.

friendlycat · 23/07/2025 22:13

Good god he says you’re not students. But even students have to pay for their accommodation, food and bills.

He really is onto a cracker of a deal with you isn’t he? There’s just no way he’s going to change his mindset and why has it been 7 nights a week?

How can he not be mortified and embarrassed that he’s not contributing properly to everything? Any normal person would automatically know this. Then he turns it onto you and makes you feel guilty for pointing out the obvious. Priceless, literally priceless.

You so don’t need a trial run in another rental. You’ve had all the evidence over the last 18 months and he still behaves like a tight fisted, unpleasant man.

Why oh why do you think he’s going to change as he hasn’t to date? This is who he is. BELIEVE Him.

Littlejellyuk · 23/07/2025 22:17

Sorry to bastardise the saying but...

CUNTS DONT CHANGE THEIR SPOTS
🐆🐆🐆

Smittenkitchen · 23/07/2025 22:18

He has been living with you.
He's there evenings and weekends so.. he has moved in already. Just because it hasn't been announced or agreed or paid for and he hasn't moved stuff in doesn't mean it hasn't already happened.
Sounds like a total freeloader. It seems like you're really seeing the light so probably unnecessary to say but please don't sell your place!

friendlycat · 23/07/2025 22:26

You might be sad and lonely if you split up, but surely you can see that this man’s standards are pretty low.

If he were to formally move in, although it seems he has, everything will just continue as it is. You will just get more and more resentful until you hate him.

He doesn’t respect you or your property. If he did he wouldn’t behave as he does.

If you really want to continue seeing him (and honestly I think time’s up here) he needs to move into his own place and fund his own lifestyle and you see him however many times a week you choose to.

But you have to accept that his tight fisted behaviour is him and who he is. Is this really the type of person you want to have a relationship with?

deathlydull · 23/07/2025 22:30

OP I feel for you. You are the cliched boiled frog. If you continue with this man it won’t end well, you know that deep down. You will spend the rest of your life seething with resentment.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 23/07/2025 22:35

He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months.

7 nights a week??? I thought you said it was 3 or 4, and that when you told him that was too much, he ignored you and kept turning up?

So he’s basically been living full time with you (apart from the odd retreat to his shed), against your wishes, for the last year and a half - and you were only with him for six months before all this cocklodger fuckery started?

Honestly OP, your complete passivity is maddening. Why aren’t you angry? Why can’t you fully acknowledge what a user he is? You’re being taken advantage of in so very many fundamental ways, but can’t seem to muster even a little bit of righteous indignation.

I really hope this thread will encourage you to be more assertive and protect your space, your privacy and your finances from this fucking arsehole man.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 23/07/2025 22:36

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 23/07/2025 21:30

So basically he moved in 18 months ago? But uses his garden pod for work or occasional hanging out so he can piss off his ex?

Excellent summary.

@OldLobster . I bet you that he has ZERO intention of doing this AirBnB plan of yours to see what its like living together.

  1. He won't want to pay anything extra - why would he.
  2. IF HE IS THERE 7 NIGHTS A WEEK YOU ARE ALREADY LIVING TOGETHER.

Ask yourself why it took so long to admit that. 7 nights a week.
He is there all the time.. sleeping in the King sized bed he cleverly got you to buy by tricking you into sleeping on the floor in your own home. l

There isn't one comment you've made about him that makes me think he intends to do well by you, or improves your life in any way at all.

Stop pinning your hopes on the 3 month living together in an Air BnB.. you told him to find it.. but it aint happening.. because he is quite comfortable living off you 7 days a week, whilst putting you down with comments like not living like students... Fucking patronising. Forcing you to prove that you are not a threadbare, economising student.. and therefore throw another few logs on the fire and make me another coffee... who cares if you have to cough up more money to replace them.
You say he makes food that you don't like. I bet its all primo and expensive stuff.

He is a Gas lighting user.

What back up plans do you have, if Air BnB won't work? Because at the moment you are rapidly heading for a situation where he is going announce he's sold his house and surprise surprise will have no where to go.. AND HE IS ALREADY LIVING WITH YOU. The time to tell him that you don't want him to move in, and you don't want to sell your house and buy somewhere with him is rapidly approaching. In fact its becoming urgent.

Remember how you told him you only wanted him there 3 nights a week and he completely ignored you and just keeps showing up announced?

So please think about a back up plan. You said you need alone time to think this through. Ask him for a break for a few weeks.. or go on holiday.. lock up and hire your own Airbnb for a few weeks just you, no need to consult or ask permission, so that you have the space you need to think.

How do you think he will respond?

CalicoPusscat · 23/07/2025 22:41

Agree with pp, definitely take a break to get some breathing space to think (and save money)

friendlycat · 23/07/2025 22:41

Well said @ Duckbilled.
Lobster you really do need to control this situation now.

Lolopolo · 23/07/2025 22:42

When I dumped my ex freeloader I couldn’t believe how much better off financially I was, honestly I think it was £150-200 a month. I was such an idiot. He only came 8 nights a month to mine too. Rancid specimen he was. He moved on after me to a wealthy widow and moved in with her within 6 months. Fucking grim poncing twat.

TwistedWonder · 23/07/2025 22:45

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 21:09

He still has baths here...but the bills increased mainly due to whacking the heating up, going through all the logs I'd stockpiled for winter in a month, dishwasher on twice a day sometimes, using food of mine for breakfast and incidental things I'd usually save for a treat, films on amazon prime, 40 pounds alone a month in coffee pods when I'd spend 10....it sounds penny pinching but quickly mounted up to.a couple of hundred pounds. If I reacted he'd say 'well, we're not students on the breadline ' making me feel tight.
He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months.

So hes actually not staying 3/4/5 nights a week, hrs already moved in with you by stealth for the princely sum of £400 a month while you bankroll his lifestyle and get called tight despite him having short arms and very long pockets?

And you’re still wringing your hands and making excuses about why you can’t kick this freeloading fucker back where he came from.

Sorry OP bug you have to step up and say ‘enough’ - you’re being a total doormat and letting him take you for a mug.

Please wake up before you’re trapped

pinkyredrose · 23/07/2025 22:47

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 21:09

He still has baths here...but the bills increased mainly due to whacking the heating up, going through all the logs I'd stockpiled for winter in a month, dishwasher on twice a day sometimes, using food of mine for breakfast and incidental things I'd usually save for a treat, films on amazon prime, 40 pounds alone a month in coffee pods when I'd spend 10....it sounds penny pinching but quickly mounted up to.a couple of hundred pounds. If I reacted he'd say 'well, we're not students on the breadline ' making me feel tight.
He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months.

Did he ask before doing all those things or did he just help himself?

Agog that you let him in when he kept turning up uninvited but it's not too late to turf him out.

pinkyredrose · 23/07/2025 22:50

Lucelady · 23/07/2025 21:34

OP is he at your house tonight?

If he is make sure tomorrow you tell him you're busy.

He's been 'staying' every night for 18 months so I think it's safe to say he's there tonight.

As he effectively moved in for free 1½yrs ago be prepared for him not leaving easily/leaving in a huff Op. He's well n truly got his feet under the table and you're a fool for allowing it.

Steelworks · 23/07/2025 22:51

This is one of those situations that’s crept up on you. Probably stayed one or two night, then more, and as you admit, you were in host mode.

I hope this thread has made you realise he has actually moved in and taken advantage of you, and yet is implying he’s doing you a favour.

ThinWomansBrain · 23/07/2025 22:51

I bet his wife is delighted to be finally rid of him.

99bottlesofkombucha · 23/07/2025 22:52

You need to ask him to leave and get his own place op!! And if he says no you say you’re not a poor student dossing down with his gf and using her hot water to save cash, go be an adult and get a place to live then you can host me like an adult.

CalicoPusscat · 23/07/2025 22:52

I don't thing anyone here likes the sound of him??

But you're being far too passive @OldLobster, it's better to be 'alone' than have an inadequate partner.