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To be alarmed that he wants to move in.

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OldLobster · 22/07/2025 12:58

Maybe I'm being too territorial / selfish but I'd like some second opinions...I'd like to add from the start that no children are involved in this muddle!

Met DP about 2 years ago. He had been separated for several years at that point but he and ex-wife put off selling the house while their daughter took A levels and then went to uni locally...during this time he slept in a little annex they had in the garden...no room for doubt there as I have met and spoken to ex-wife who seems nice (but very different personality to DP) she was aware of me from the start and I have observed said annex. Their daughter has now finished her course and started a job away from home and they have just put their house on the market.

From the start DP Used to come round to see me unannounced...staying over gradually became 3 then 4 then 5 nights a week although he would go home to shower, wash clothes etc. At one point he asked if we could spend more time together and I said I'd prefer to keep it at 3 or 4 nights a week...which he ignored. Yes, at this point I should have stood my ground but pathetically, I did not. My house is tiny and I work from home. We split cooking and food costs but I found it quite tiring because possibly due to upbringing and poor boundary management I always felt in hostess mode and behaved in the way I would if a friend or relative came to stay....I love my family but I'd be exhausted if they stayed for months...and miss my own space. I've tried to explain this to him...that this setup is very different from the dynamic or sharing a home together (as I've done with previous partners).

Predictably, and here we enter territory where cocklodger comments are likely and justified, the bills went up, heating, oven on all the time etc. I'd be a little more prudent when living alone. He didn't offer any help or any little token as I would when staying with a friend. Slightly tricky as he is seldom here during the day except at weekends. I've not given him a key. He doesn't live here but spends most of his free time here amd every night.

I felt embarrassed mentioning that the bills had gone up which i did after 3 months, he did actually push back a little when I did so but then started giving me the amount by which they had increased. I felt shoddy even asking.

I'd like a break from this arrangement ...so have suggested that before we look at him moving in properly or of getting somewhere together, we perhaps spend 3 months sharing an off season rental (there are lots of holiday cottages where we live and during the winter these are no more expensive than my mortage). Our incomes are similar but I have a fairly large mortgage that takes up half of mine and DP will, in addition, be getting bank interest on his house sale money. This little break would give me a chance to see what its like to live together rather than in my home where most of the costs and upkeep naturally fall to me. As mentioned, my house is tiny...there's barely room for my belongings
Dps bank interest alone would cover most of the rental and it would only be for a few months.

He likes the idea however has stated that he doesn't want to pay for it all and will only entertain it if i pay half..instead he'd like to stay at mine, paying 400 per month (my mortgage is 3 x this).

I'm not usually tight-fisted but in this case am I, for feeling that he should really be offering to take on this responsibility, just fora few months, as I have done so for 18 months?

OP posts:
TwistedWonder · 23/07/2025 13:32

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 11:24

He wanted us to buy somewhere together 50/50 and I've said I'm not ready to sell my home yet...I said it was due to feeling I wanted to keep it for at least another 18 months and because I if I sold sooner I'd have to pay an early repayment fee on my mortgage.

Please do not even think about selling b your house to buy with this man

Your responses show you’re not seeing the huge red flags he’s waving right on your face which is concerning.

I really hope you do start seeing what’s in front of your eyes before this freeloader takes even more advantage of you.

MeridianB · 23/07/2025 14:01

Yes, please don't sell. I suspect he cannot afford to buy without you coming in. That is his problem to solve.

This man sounds like one of life's takers.

Mrsbloggz · 23/07/2025 14:03

MeridianB · 23/07/2025 14:01

Yes, please don't sell. I suspect he cannot afford to buy without you coming in. That is his problem to solve.

This man sounds like one of life's takers.

I agree with this.
I'd say it's a safe bet to assume that if he pushes for something it's because it benefits him at your expense.

Mrsbloggz · 23/07/2025 14:08

Op when you use the phrase 50/50 you mean an egalitarian setup.
In his mind 50/50 = what's right and fair
what's right and fair = he is in control and gets to work everything to his advantage.
Therefore (by his 'logic') 50/50 = he da boss

istheresomethingishouldsay · 23/07/2025 14:25

Personally, I think you're being foolish for continuing to try to make this work. He has only his best interests at heart at your expense. He's not worth having.

Kipperandarthur · 23/07/2025 14:29

I'm sorry to say but the man is clearly showing you who he is and you are not seeing or hearing. Although you are deep down otherwise you wouldn't have posted this in the first place.

He's tight and that's that. Some people are. He isn't going to change and certainly not at his age as we aren't talking about a 20 year old.

You've had red flag after red flag and now you've got a massive one flying high above you in all its red glory but you are still defending him.

OK let him plan this two/three month different living arrangement as a look see experiment. But firstly he's told you he doesn't want to spend the money doing this and wants you to pay half, and more importantly if he does actually cough up for this he will presumably be on his best behaviour and it's not exactly representative of what long term living together is going to be.

He's tight. He likes keeping his money to himself. He has told you this and shown you this in all the time that you have been seeing him. Why do you think he is suddenly going to change into a different person with a different attitude to money?

He is who he is. Believe what you are seeing and hearing. Stop trying to twist him in your mind into somebody you want him to be as he isn't that person.

Dozer · 23/07/2025 14:43

“I need the opportunity to get out of this hostess obligation to think clearly while maintaining my home as 'mine'.”

You say your proposal to rent together for a few months could provide you this opportunity.
Another, faster and cheaper, opportunity would be to set and maintain new boundaries regarding his visits to your home.

“I tried to explain that the dynamic of having someone in my home isn't the same as sharing a home and about the hostess mentality but he took offence and said he thought I saw him as a partner not a guest.”

His actions have been those of a (bad) guest. Or perhaps he just sees a (male) partner’s role to be the role he has played when visiting your home and a (female) partner’s role to behave like you have (a compliant hostess)?

Bad relationship with his DC and accusations about his ex are more red flags.

Wowthatwasabigstep · 23/07/2025 15:23

Old lobster, you sound lovely and very kind, however time to dust the big pants off and make some changes.

The biggest issue for me would be him frequently coming round without consulting you. Your house your rules, test the water and see how he reacts when you send a message saying you don’t require his company tonight or tomorrow in fact.

In time you may want to see who else is out there or may not ever want to but I would be confident there is somebody lovely who doesn’t want to move in for convenience and sheer laziness.

Dozer · 23/07/2025 15:29

@Lucelady you and your friends sound savvy, it’d be ideal for OP to have some friends like you!

Your post also shows that there are a fair few men out there looking for and feeling entitled to comfortable perks, even from an early stage of dating, facilitated by their girlfriend.

KarmenPQZ · 23/07/2025 15:35

I kinda agree with him. If you’re getting somewhere to share for 3 months then you should both pay half.

however I think it would be better if he just got somewhere himself and you continued to date and spend equal time at his and at yours. You’ll get more of an idea if he lives like a pig (which reading the thread clearly we all strongly suspect he does!)

SpinachSpinachMoreSpinach · 23/07/2025 16:33

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 12:08

Ironically had I not felt taken advantage of over the last 18 months I wouldn't propose much more than £400...I'd probably suggest half of what it costs to rent a room in a shared house..so about 350 plus half of bills..so a couple of hundred more. I wouldn't charge a partner what I'd charge a lodger. I do feel it's of course right a partner in a similar situation should pay less..but not demand to pay so much less. That's what puts me off..he could offer to pay double his original suggestion and it would change nothing.

You seem to be continuing to ruminate about his motives and what YOU should have done to make living with this man more feasible and appealing. Whereas he does none of these things. He just keeps on pushing your boundaries and insinuating that you are in the wrong.

while all the time your gut is screaming that you want out of this one-sided relationship…

Daisymail · 23/07/2025 16:45

TwistedWonder · 23/07/2025 13:32

Please do not even think about selling b your house to buy with this man

Your responses show you’re not seeing the huge red flags he’s waving right on your face which is concerning.

I really hope you do start seeing what’s in front of your eyes before this freeloader takes even more advantage of you.

This. Your bar is set incredibly low if you still insist on ignoring these huge red flags.

outerspacepotato · 23/07/2025 17:02

3 months trial living together in a rental is not going to change anything.

This guy is a loser looking for a comfy place to land to get out of his shed until their house sells. You're it.

Why would you want to let this guy think he has a hope of moving in and living with you by this trial period? You're either going to cave on letting him move in and suck you dry financially or you're just kicking the breakup can down the road.

What are you afraid of? You know this is not a true love setup, it's a relationship of convenience where he doesn't pay his way and carry his load. Do you want to end up losing your own home and living with some loser?

Harry12345 · 23/07/2025 18:53

I’m maybe missing something but if he goes home to shower and do his washing, contributes to food, how has bills went up?

Harry12345 · 23/07/2025 18:54

Also if you’re struggling with him staying a few nights at yours why would a rental make a difference?

Littlejellyuk · 23/07/2025 19:47

HIS WILLY ISN'T WORTH IT.
LEAVE THE GOLD DIGGING USING LITTLE BASTARD. 👏 👏 👏

I've seen his type before.
He would be the type to claim that "he's a nice guy, he was taken advantage of in the past , so he thought all women are snakes until he met you" and the rest of his blah blah blah.
He's looking for a meal ticket until his payday comes through in the guise of his finalised divorce. And then he will claim he needs to keep HIS money to one side to invest it for his daughters future, all the while he would live on your dime.

RUN, RUN, RUN!

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 21:09

Harry12345 · 23/07/2025 18:53

I’m maybe missing something but if he goes home to shower and do his washing, contributes to food, how has bills went up?

He still has baths here...but the bills increased mainly due to whacking the heating up, going through all the logs I'd stockpiled for winter in a month, dishwasher on twice a day sometimes, using food of mine for breakfast and incidental things I'd usually save for a treat, films on amazon prime, 40 pounds alone a month in coffee pods when I'd spend 10....it sounds penny pinching but quickly mounted up to.a couple of hundred pounds. If I reacted he'd say 'well, we're not students on the breadline ' making me feel tight.
He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months.

OP posts:
sonjadog · 23/07/2025 21:13

Even if it hasn't been obvious to you before (and it is easy to get caught up in things so no criticism if it wasn't), is it not becoming crystal clear to you through your posts and the discussions on this thread that this man does not respect your boundaries, sees you as a meal ticket, and puts himself and his wants first at every opportunity?

So what exactly is this three month trial going to show that will negate all these negative characteristics he has shown? Could they even be negated in so short a time, or is this who he is, and even if he manages to put on a good show for a few months, is this not who he will return to being?

Lucelady · 23/07/2025 21:18

So it's seven nights a week in your home. He has no intention of sleeping in his s shed. If you say no he will be love bombing someone else.

Littlejellyuk · 23/07/2025 21:19

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 21:09

He still has baths here...but the bills increased mainly due to whacking the heating up, going through all the logs I'd stockpiled for winter in a month, dishwasher on twice a day sometimes, using food of mine for breakfast and incidental things I'd usually save for a treat, films on amazon prime, 40 pounds alone a month in coffee pods when I'd spend 10....it sounds penny pinching but quickly mounted up to.a couple of hundred pounds. If I reacted he'd say 'well, we're not students on the breadline ' making me feel tight.
He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months.

I'm sorry BUT WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
So he gets to stay with you, completely free, eat all your food, use your facilties and has the cheek to guilt you when you mention it (we're not students on the breadline)
😠 😡 😤

My piss is boiling hot with anger for you!
Woman you are paying to keep this man! 🤢

It would actually be cheaper for you to hire a cleaner, a cook and a gigolo, rather than live with this woman-using gold-digging piece of shite! 😫 💩 🤦‍♀️
Please see sense pretty lady! He is milking you like a cow 😔 😥 😞

TwistedWonder · 23/07/2025 21:20

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 21:09

He still has baths here...but the bills increased mainly due to whacking the heating up, going through all the logs I'd stockpiled for winter in a month, dishwasher on twice a day sometimes, using food of mine for breakfast and incidental things I'd usually save for a treat, films on amazon prime, 40 pounds alone a month in coffee pods when I'd spend 10....it sounds penny pinching but quickly mounted up to.a couple of hundred pounds. If I reacted he'd say 'well, we're not students on the breadline ' making me feel tight.
He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months.

And you’re still letting him gaslight into thinking him pissing your money up the wall is being tight and penny pinching.

You've been given so much good advice in here OP and it’s almost unanimous but you don’t seem to want to see it.

SpinachSpinachMoreSpinach · 23/07/2025 21:25

He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months

Why on god's earth are you allowing this???

OldLobster · 23/07/2025 21:28

My piss is boiling hot with anger for you!
Woman you are paying to keep this man! 🤢

Yes, even meek old me is getting angry now and it takes a lot to make me angry. It's probably at least a year overdue.

OP posts:
DPotter · 23/07/2025 21:29

So hang on - currently he's living with you and not even paying for food and drink ? Please tell me I've got that wrong please. If I'm right I want to shake you - really you've let this man walk over you and paid him for the privilege. Please tell me I've got that wrong

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 23/07/2025 21:30

SpinachSpinachMoreSpinach · 23/07/2025 21:25

He's stayed 7 nights a week for the last 18 months

Why on god's earth are you allowing this???

So basically he moved in 18 months ago? But uses his garden pod for work or occasional hanging out so he can piss off his ex?