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Thread 8: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 16/07/2025 23:41

Well, this has turned out to be slightly longer than the dozen or so replies I expected when I started the first thread!

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

2nd Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

3rd Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

4th Observer
‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting.

To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with possible visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail.

We have done amazingly well together - in the main that is, not mentioning any names but you know who you are! - for seven threads so far. I can't be on the threads as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion ticking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

No saltiness. Keep to the path. Thank you.

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Divegirl65 · 19/07/2025 23:02

VerySwettyBetty · 19/07/2025 19:56

@AldoGordo you’re not alone. I found myself looking at historic temperature charts the other day when I was at a passage in TSP where she described the sand as blisteringly hot (or similar) in the middle of September. As if it was remotely likely to have been accurate 🙄

That's interesting. In TSP when they reach Duckpool (just north of Bude) and meet Grant he tells them it's been 36 degrees there that day (don't know the date but it would have been August/September 2013). When I checked historical weather websites the highest max temp recorded for those months was 25 degrees. I'm not sure how accurate these sites are?

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/07/2025 23:04

FurryHappyKittens · 19/07/2025 23:02

Oh now THAT is hilarious!!!

😂😂😂

Imagine.... "Every where I went I was confused for a very famous man called Moth who looked nothing like me. In the end, just to oblige, I stole some fudge, dunked my own teabags in hot water, and took a poo on Bude seafront."

Now that is a book I would read.

AldoGordo · 19/07/2025 23:08

FurryHappyKittens · 19/07/2025 23:02

Oh now THAT is hilarious!!!

😂😂😂

Imagine.... "Every where I went I was confused for a very famous man called Moth who looked nothing like me. In the end, just to oblige, I stole some fudge, dunked my own teabags in hot water, and took a poo on Bude seafront."

😂😂😂

WagnersFourthSymphony · 19/07/2025 23:11

Dear Mumsnet Towers,
please bring back the laugh emoji.
TVM

Aspanielstolemysanity · 19/07/2025 23:12

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/07/2025 23:04

Now that is a book I would read.

Simon - if you are reading this please go light on the poop details. I have two teenage boys in the house, I read books to escape the scatalogical conversations

AldoGordo · 19/07/2025 23:16

Divegirl65 · 19/07/2025 23:02

That's interesting. In TSP when they reach Duckpool (just north of Bude) and meet Grant he tells them it's been 36 degrees there that day (don't know the date but it would have been August/September 2013). When I checked historical weather websites the highest max temp recorded for those months was 25 degrees. I'm not sure how accurate these sites are?

Grant's a liar too! I knew he was shifty.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/07/2025 23:19

Aspanielstolemysanity · 19/07/2025 23:12

Simon - if you are reading this please go light on the poop details. I have two teenage boys in the house, I read books to escape the scatalogical conversations

Maybe he could just construct that part into poetry!

Hi Simon if you are here DM me and we'll talk royalties.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 19/07/2025 23:19

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/07/2025 23:19

Maybe he could just construct that part into poetry!

Hi Simon if you are here DM me and we'll talk royalties.

Grin
DisappointedReader · 19/07/2025 23:19

Aspanielstolemysanity · 19/07/2025 22:57

Using your gardens as lavatories Shock

Unfortunately yes and like the Walker-Winn-Wyns they didn't bring trowels. It was at the time when people discovered walking in the countryside as exercise who perhaps wouldn't have come out walking previously and the public loos were closed. Don't get me started on the parking and litter. Things like eggs, jam and honey for sale in gateways were being stolen and even an honesty box itself was taken. Hmm, I wonder if the WWWs were in the area?!

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Humankindness · 19/07/2025 23:20

OpenThatWindow · 19/07/2025 22:25

@Humankindness out of interest, why would the Observer go to such lengths to target Sally & Tim as a pure witch hunt?

You believe the couple have done nothing wrong and are completely innocent of any wrongdoing.

So...why all this? You talked about political rhetoric and hinted at alterior motives with the newspaper.

What is their aim here, specifically? What are they hoping for, if the media are the Bad Guys and the Walker/Winns are the hard done by heroes?

What on earth is to be gained?

The first Observer article was very weak in places. The insinuations about CBS/CBD in particular, which I believe were completely unethical. The second article was full of tittle-tattle. On a general note, I’d like to see the paper going after bigger fish. We know that RW has mucked up in her past (whether “mistakes” or theft - I said earlier that we may never know). But it’s the frenzied urgency to bring someone down that I can’t stand. The Observer is leading the charge, but the vibe on MN is also of a witch hunt. If RW is confirmed as an embezzler, I’d prefer to go the Timpson’s route than call for her to be hung, drawn and quartered. I’ve read again and again on here that some contributors wish RW no ill. Yet the 360 degree character assassination has real life consequences. Arguing that she may have caused others deep heartache does not justify the deliberate and sustained efforts to damage her. I don’t believe in an eye for an eye.

Fandango52 · 19/07/2025 23:20

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/07/2025 23:19

Maybe he could just construct that part into poetry!

Hi Simon if you are here DM me and we'll talk royalties.

Poo-etry? Sorry. I’ll see myself out…

Aspanielstolemysanity · 19/07/2025 23:22

Fandango52 · 19/07/2025 23:20

Poo-etry? Sorry. I’ll see myself out…

Grin
Aspanielstolemysanity · 19/07/2025 23:23

DisappointedReader · 19/07/2025 23:19

Unfortunately yes and like the Walker-Winn-Wyns they didn't bring trowels. It was at the time when people discovered walking in the countryside as exercise who perhaps wouldn't have come out walking previously and the public loos were closed. Don't get me started on the parking and litter. Things like eggs, jam and honey for sale in gateways were being stolen and even an honesty box itself was taken. Hmm, I wonder if the WWWs were in the area?!

Oh gosh, that's so grim. We were lucky, noone bothered with our little corner as it isn't very well known/scenic, but I know further along the coast they had big issues.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 19/07/2025 23:23

Fandango52 · 19/07/2025 23:20

Poo-etry? Sorry. I’ll see myself out…

🤣🤣.
Open goal to be fair.

DisappointedReader · 19/07/2025 23:23

Fandango52 · 19/07/2025 23:20

Poo-etry? Sorry. I’ll see myself out…

Poo-etry in Motion? A song for Salt Path: The Musical. Poo-sical?

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Humankindness · 19/07/2025 23:29

DisappointedReader · 19/07/2025 22:59

This is against Mumsnet Talk Guidelines and also not in the spirit of the thread.

Well I have been called Raynor Winn, Raynor’s agent, Raynor’s friend, a generalised plant, a flouncy drive-by, and sanctimonious. I’ve also been told that I’m unable to digest a large amount of information, don’t understand what evidence is, and have been laughed at for a spelling mistake. As OP, I would hope that you will apply the same standards to the inner circle of Miss Marples on this thread.

AldoGordo · 19/07/2025 23:32

Humankindness · 19/07/2025 23:29

Well I have been called Raynor Winn, Raynor’s agent, Raynor’s friend, a generalised plant, a flouncy drive-by, and sanctimonious. I’ve also been told that I’m unable to digest a large amount of information, don’t understand what evidence is, and have been laughed at for a spelling mistake. As OP, I would hope that you will apply the same standards to the inner circle of Miss Marples on this thread.

TBF some of that is verifiable.

Humankindness · 19/07/2025 23:34

AldoGordo · 19/07/2025 23:32

TBF some of that is verifiable.

There you go again.

AldoGordo · 19/07/2025 23:36

Humankindness · 19/07/2025 23:34

There you go again.

Apologies.

Smike · 19/07/2025 23:41

Aspanielstolemysanity · 19/07/2025 22:53

I would happily accept a fudge bar miracle cure.... Maybe I should approach Penguin for the book deal, I can make up work out the finer details later

I think these threads are an act of covert Fudge Bar advertising. I actually didn’t think the Cadbury’s Fudges existed any more. Now I have an urge to eat one.

Thread 8: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?
Aspanielstolemysanity · 19/07/2025 23:46

Smike · 19/07/2025 23:41

I think these threads are an act of covert Fudge Bar advertising. I actually didn’t think the Cadbury’s Fudges existed any more. Now I have an urge to eat one.

"tasty and easy to shoplift"

WagnersFourthSymphony · 19/07/2025 23:48

We may never know whether Raymoth remortgaged their house to repay a debt they never owed.
Meanwhile, here we are with our cruel torches and ducking stools, when our poor victimised victims could be more gainfully employed replacing our watch batteries.

VerySwettyBetty · 19/07/2025 23:48

Aspanielstolemysanity · 19/07/2025 23:46

"tasty and easy to shoplift"

😂

Animaladina · 19/07/2025 23:49

Aspanielstolemysanity · 19/07/2025 23:46

"tasty and easy to shoplift"

😂😂😂

SuffolkSun · 19/07/2025 23:53

@Humankindness Any comment on the Times, Telegraph, Mail, Spectator, Sun, BBC etc who have all reported extensively on the matter? Are their pieces equally full of holes? Should they also be focused on more important matters?

In what way is interviewing Consultant Neurologists about the progress of rare neurodegenerative disorders and reporting their perspective making "insinuations"?

Having read both Sally Walker's "rebuttal" and listened to Mrs Hemmings and her daughter account of events - I'm confident that there was embezzlement.

Probably best to reserve the hyperbole for a piece of fiction, should you ever chose to write one. Asking an author about large holes in their high-profile "completely factual" piece of work isn't hanging, drawing and quartering.

Widespread press attention for some people must be deeply uncomfortably, I agree. It's slightly harder to argue that case when the subject in this instance has spoken to print and broadcast outlets on numerous occasions over the past few years.

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