Thread 8: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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Well, this has turned out to be slightly longer than the dozen or so replies I expected when I started the first thread!

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

2nd Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

3rd Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

4th Observer
‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting.

To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with possible visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail.

We have done amazingly well together - in the main that is, not mentioning any names but you know who you are! - for seven threads so far. I can't be on the threads as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion ticking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

No saltiness. Keep to the path. Thank you.

Private Eye's take on it all!

Is there a deeper truth that some mad, bad or whatever folks stumble upon on the rocky salt path of life? Whether by accident or design, they tap into something more universal than the humdrum or mundane and in doing so, somehow transcend their own shortcomings ?

With tired feet of clay forgiven, forgotten, or simply balanced by thoughts that drift in their personal manufactured heavens - they feed the hunger of already-starved, lonely souls - which if truth be told is probably most of us.

Just an idle thought. As Groucho Marx said: I have others !

Problem with that version of Sally's version of events (and there have been many) is that we have all seen the loan document now and know it was very straightforward and plain English and it defies the limits of credulousness to suggest that someone who can write a book couldn't understand it)

Tim signed it.

Assuming they both own the house then they would both have had to have signed it

Seems just Tim signed it

Interesting.

pure speculation but maybe the house was only in his name because she couldn’t go on a mortgage due to something on a record from the pre wales days that led to the fleeing

That's just a screen shot. Each person signs separately with witness signatures under each signature , that's not the whole document (although the missing bits are just mundane)

Yes I guess it's possible that she didn't own the house. It's equally possible that she signed after Tim and that snapshot doesn't show it. We can't see the witness details in that extract either but they will be there

You may be right but its a bit strange that SW isn't included in the screenshot as she is the subject of the Observer article.

It may have been to protect the witness details. Or just the way the screenshot was taken

@sualipa Yes… indeed. Nicely put. The journey of redemption. From something bad (whatever that was) to a better place. With some sort of transformation. It’s possible. Life is nuanced.

On a different note, TSP was not intended to be a guidebook to the South West Coast path. So interviewing walkers to check that a description of a place / a bit of a walk is “correct” is plain silly. Do we see the same things / experience the same every time we walk a stretch of path? Of course not! And my experience will be very different to another walker’s.

How has the journalist been reaching out to walkers? Via the Ramblers?

I mean, I get that there is subjectivity, but the basic topography doesn't change very often

I agree that different people will have a different view and feeling of a walk

i think it’s only interesting if sw describes it a a gentle stroll across cliff tops when the walk is incredibly steep and through woods! I don’t know the swcp so no opinion either way tbh

Well up to a point. If the description, for example, includes a crossing of a creek (Gillan Creek) in a rowing boat with a man with a dog when at the time of the walk there existed a motorised ferry to take walkers across the creek, then it might be a valid assumption that the passage in the book was, er well, "embellished".

Fine, if that's what you want, but it can hardly in all likelihood be described as an unflinchingly honest account of what actually happened. Until the Observer article comes out, the jury, as they say, is out....

Simon Armitage was on Loose Ends tonight.
Unbelievably, when Stuart Maconie asked him if he was thinking of writing a cosy crime thriller, he said he was '…thinking of writing a book about walking the South West Coast Path.' !!!! Everyone laughed. I screamed!

Just catching up with the thread!

Quick question (apologies if it's been covered, still catching up) does anyone think there will be anything further in the Observer tomorrow?

CH suggests yes.

Thanks for posting, this is how in feeling as I work my way through it now.

The last one about making up your own and then believing it, feels so telling of what was to come...

How come I can’t see this on her X fee? NB: not that experienced with X.

*X feed.

It's in her replies, not her posts. On 16 Jul she posted the clip of the MP in the HoC comparing Starmer's speech to TSP. Someone asks her 'is there more to come on this saga?' and she replies 'worth buying the Observer this Sunday.'

It's there but you need to select her feed of "replies" which should help you find it.

You can still have a man in a row boat with a dog and a motorised ferry. In the same way, and referencing an earlier contributor, a Warden may not be patrolling where you’ve wild camped at the exact same time that you’re there. You may also choose to camp behind a cafe as opposed in a more beautiful spot simply because you’re knackered and want to get your tent up no matter what.

If the Observer article is based on interviews with walkers who say the Winns couldn’t have walked the coast path, the journalist really will be scrapping the bottom of the barrel. And for me, this will be further evidence of a witch hunt.