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Husband afraid of DIY

337 replies

Bloozie · 16/07/2025 09:42

My Dad is a builder and my ex was too, so I've been around men who are handy all my life. I'm not very handy myself because I lack confidence, but I understand enough of the landscape to know when we need to get a trade in, or when we can do it ourselves.

My husband is a polymath, one of the most intelligent people I know, can learn and do anything he puts his mind to, but has always rented properties before we met and so had a landlord maintaining things for him.

I am the main earner in the house and work more than full time, he works between 2.5 and 4 days a week. I take responsibility for the house and garden, and my son from a previous marriage, and all the animals. He cooks twice a week and does the laundry. We have a cleaner.

All this is context for a real bone of contention between us at the moment. He won't get involved in home maintenance. On any level.

We had a leak in the upstairs bathroom recently that took the power out in the room beneath it. Once the leak had been sorted by a plumber and the room below had been dried out with a dehumidifier, I asked him to find an electrician to come and get the power back online. This was during a period when I was making redundancies at work, it was hideous and very stressful. My husband just didn't. I kept asking and he kept saying the room needs to dry, and I was like, it is dry. I've had the dehumidifier on, you can feel it's dry, it needs looking at. Weeks went by and I ended up sorting it myself.

Our washing machine stank and was full of mould. I asked him to empty the filter and clean it out when he had a minute, he said it wasn't that, there's something wrong with the pipes, we need to get a man in. I said we can't a man in until we've gone through basic maintenance. He lost his temper and said that his mum 'never once cleaned her washing machine filter', that's not a thing, it's not for homeowners to do. I pointed out that we're meant to do it every 2 months. He said that just isn't true. I cleared the filter myself, got all the mould out, nothing smells now.

Our dishwasher recently started not cleaning things properly. I googled and it said to clean the filter and spray arm as first action. I asked him to do that. He said he has no idea how, he's not a dishwasher repairman. I said that Google is his friend. He said he doesn't know the model. I said it's on the sticker. Long story short, it stopped draining completely because he did nothing. I googled for a plan of attack; he was adamant we needed a repairman. The outlet hose just needed clearing. I did it. These solutions are easy to find online.

And now we having the bathroom and windows replaced. I am fine that I have had to co-ordinate it all, line up all the trades, whatever. I AM better placed to do that. I do know more than him. Fine. But the builder is in today and I have a busy day on and we need some materials that I'd told the builder we already had, but we don't. So I just asked my husband if he'd go to the builder's yard to get some blocks and he had another meltdown. He hates going there, hates the feeling that they know more than he does...

I don't mind at all that he can't build a house himself. But he can teach himself anything when he wants to, and has said many times he finds DIY boring and it's not something he's interested in doing.

Me either. I had zero interest in how dishwashers work, washing machine filters, electricians... None. I don't figure out how things work because it's my life passion, nor do I go into technical detail. I just look online for 2-minute YouTube explainers and if it's simple, do it, and if it's hard, ring someone. Like a normal fucking adult.

It's really starting to make me cross. I'm not his landlord or his mother, and every damn thing in this house is my responsibility. Fine. But I can't even delegate simple things, and his reaction to requests is strange and OTT. He panics and gets defensive and then turns it around on me: normal people get repairmen in. Not to clean the bastard dishwasher filter they don't. If he's worried about being emasculated and embarrassed by people that know more than him, THAT would be more embarrassing. Getting the Hotpoint man out to empty sweetcorn.

He thinks I'm being really unreasonable and says there are other things he's suited to doing. But I'm at a loss to figure out what, because it isn't gardening, decorating, sorting cupboards out that need sorting, helping his stepson...

This is making me mad.

OP posts:
Bloozie · 17/07/2025 14:04

DidILeaveTheGasOn · 17/07/2025 13:59

Does he actually like you, Op?

I don't know. It doesn't always feel like it.

But I expect he feels the same in relation to me. Right now, I'm struggling to be in the same room as him because I'm really finding it hard to deal with his sudden, very heavy and understandable, need for emotional support when I'm very much in delivery and deadline mode for 1000 work and home things that I don't have any practical support on.

Like, I can be your mother, or your boss (home and work), but I can't be both at once.

OP posts:
Jollyhockeystickss · 17/07/2025 14:12

He must be good in bed tho i very much doubt it

FirstNationsEnglish · 17/07/2025 14:13

Bloozie · 17/07/2025 11:35

I strongly suspect he is autistic.

He won't consider it, as he feels he has strong social skills and his perception of people with autism is that they are insular, socially awkward and don't have empathy.

There's no point in telling him that actually, many people with autism have too MUCH empathy and it overwhelms them, or that they can mask for so long it becomes their actual front, because he has a fixed view of what autism is and isn't and won't be told/gently encouraged/asked to look into it himself.

@Bloozie I have a padded wall here, if you want to bang your head against it. Being so stubborn and uncooperative is not going to get him very far although it can be another 'trait' ... yep, I get your 'end of rope-ness'.

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 17/07/2025 14:22

Bloozie · 16/07/2025 09:52

I don't mind paying for tradesmen myself when we need them. I do earn more money. It's all good.

But it's the things we don't need trades for that are grating on me. The first thing I do if something breaks is look in its manual and then online. 9 times out of 10, it's something we should have been doing but haven't, or can do. Fine.

The thing he does if something breaks is want to throw money at it - replace it, get someone in to fix it. I would be too embarrassed to book a repair person before doing the basic stuff we are supposed to do. And while I have no problem spending money on trades when we need to, I resent how freely he will spend it rather than just engage his extremely very capable brain. He works in IT, he's logical and methodical, very dextrous with his hands, and his Google works. It really frustrates me that he won't engage with troubleshooting.

But even if we did as you do, he is still afraid of speaking to tradesmen. It's like he imagines they expect him to be able to tell them what's wrong. I have no idea what the block was to him ringing the electrician and saying, we have no power in our downstairs loo after a leak. It's been sorted - can you come and take a look?

Try reversing the roles here.

Rewrite the post as a man complaining about how his wife cant do the simplest DIY thing, and then imagine the MN replies you'd be getting.

Some people are just ineffective in the face of "things", just like some are about technology.

I'm handy myself and have been amazed about how others, intelligent men and women, can't grasp simple concepts.

I can only liken it to dyspraxia.

Marriages work when AT LEAST one person can deal with the sh*that happens. There is no requirement for you both to be able to do it.

If you have expectations that he should be able to, that may be some inherent sexism going on about what a man should be.

Gymnopedie · 17/07/2025 14:22

Your H is giving me the ick from here. Weekends aren't for doing chores, when do they get done? How about when he's only working half the week and you're working full time?

What you've got yourself here is a grade A cocklodger. He makes your life harder and more unpleasant in so many different ways - what does he add to your life?

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 17/07/2025 14:26

I feel for you OP, he sounds like a complete dickhead to me but you can obviously see some decent qualities.

How do you feel when you see the next ten years ahead of you being the same as now (possibly with your DS having moved out)? Or possibly worse, because he isn't suddenly going to change for the better is he?

AJLOAL · 17/07/2025 14:33

What do you like about him? What interests do you share? Does he make you laugh? Does he do anything for you that either of you consider is a romantic, loving or thoughtful gesture?

Doorwayss · 17/07/2025 14:38

He has done some number on you.

He has you completely shut down while he is a selfish lazy arse living off you.

He sounds abusive and controlling.

How you can stomach him is beyond me.

I hope writing it down helps you wake up.

AuntieAunt · 17/07/2025 14:44

This guy seems so lazy he wouldn’t even bother getting a solicitor to get 50% of what he’s ‘owed’.

Offer to buy him a one bedroom flat and give him a nice sofa for him to relax on.

My ex was a bit like this (luckily we were in our twenties, no kids, no joint assets…) so I play him at his own game. The dishwasher was broken, all the dishes would come out dirty so I’d serve up his dinner on the dirty plates and pretend I didn’t notice (just like how he didn’t ‘notice’ putting them away).

He also ‘didn’t know’ how to mow the lawn so I mentioned to his mum in front of his family if she could give him a lesson as he didn’t want to watch me on how to do it…

I ended up hating him and told him calmly one day after a stupid row. No going back after that one.

LoveWine123 · 17/07/2025 14:44

Katherine9 · 17/07/2025 12:56

Let's not try to diagnose by social media with such limited information and the perspective of one (pissed off) person.

There is always one that will come out and say this. I have not diagnosed him? It’s just what screamed at me having seen first hand some of the experiences that OP describes. And they are very very relevant. As if he is neurodivergent, this will explains why he thinks and acts a certain way and this goes beyond some of the descriptions here of OP’s husband being spoilt, lazy, etc. A neurodivergent person’s fear of failure is very different to being lazy or unwilling. It’s not a diagnosis I have offered but other things to look into when it comes to his behaviour. I have shared my own perspective which was hopefully helpful to OP. Rest assured her husband remains undiagnosed.

Littlejellyuk · 17/07/2025 14:45

I'm so sorry to read this OP. 😔

I want to ask you a couple of very simple questions.
Very simply, yes or no.
Are you happy with him? ❤️

Next one is, forget the messiness of a divorce, or house sale etc if you split.
My second simple question is this:
Do you think you would you be more happier without him? 💕

Edited to say, I hope you are okay 💐

LoveWine123 · 17/07/2025 14:51

Bloozie · 17/07/2025 12:29

There's a lot in this I think. Particularly about the mother role. His dad is definitely autistic, though not diagnosed, and his mum is the most loving, nurturing, patient woman on the planet and helps smooth over the rough edges he struggles with - social situations - and lovingly accepts his need for routine and to dominate conversations.

My husband often uses his parents as the platonic ideal of what a good relationship looks like. And they do have a very good relationship. But at a nuts and bolts level, my husband's mother has had to mould herself around his dad. She does it willingly, and I can see they are very happy together. They're both really lovely people.

But as I have said to him many times, I am nothing like his mother. I am not that patient. She once gave me marriage advice: "You just need to bite your tongue with MrBloozie, I know what he can get like but he's never going to change and you just need to bite your tongue" and I'm like, nope. I am not going to spend my life silenced. That's not what love means to me.

But it may well be what love means to my husband, and the only strategy available to me.

I didn't sign up for this though. If he had a diagnosis, then he would be aware that he is neurodivergent and thinks differently to some other people, and i would have walked into the marriage knowing that. As it stands, he just seemed a bit geeky and passionate about stuff - which are attractive qualities - and his cognitive quirks have unfolded over time, and are becoming stifling. But he firmly believes I am the unreasonable party, and often for things like not getting support in the way he feels he needs it - and it IS maternal. The energy he needs from me is motherly.

That makes me feel sick to my stomach - MASSIVE ick.

I think you are very self aware and you have a very good grasp on what is going on behind the scenes and I fully understand why you say you don’t want to mid-represent him here. There’s more to it than pure laziness and being a cocklodger and what not. I think the point remains that you need to decide what it is you want in life and if you are willing to accept your husband as he is. Ultimately he has higher needs than what you expected and that’s a fact and while his mother can willingly bite her tongue and mould herself to her husband (and don’t underestimate the fact that she has moulded herself to her son’s needs too), you don’t have to. You need to really think about your next steps now.

Poppins21 · 17/07/2025 15:31

Bloozie · 17/07/2025 11:57

If he's read something once, that becomes his established truth, so if science/understanding has moved on, he will flatly refuse to consider it if pointed out.

He once read Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, it resonated, that's his North Star for things like this. It's just become one of the many, many things I can't talk to about with him because he (thinks he) knows everything and doesn't even want his view challenged. I once tried to use Google to reinforce a point I was making, and he told me it was face-threatening, why do I need to prove him wrong? It was in relation to something he was doing wrong that could have led to speeding tickets, points and fines, so I felt it was important to update him on how speed camera technology had moved on, but because he once drove vans for a summer in 2003 or whenever, He Knows Speed Cameras.

I feel like I'm drip-feeding now. It's cathartic though. And related I think. He absolutely hates being wrong. Cannot sit with the feeling at all. So I guess that feeds into not wanting to even try to understand dishwashers.

All of his hobbies - which to someone else's point, yes he could definitely monetise one of them, he's truly outstanding at it - are things that require intense practice, things he can repeat until they're muscle memory. Long slow burns where he can make his mistakes in secret. I don't think he'd ever monetise though as the fear of making a mistake in front of people is strong.

Edited

He doesn’t sound super intelligent- read something once and then getting a fixed mindset. Intelligence requires critical thinking! This guy sounds like a complete tool

Bloozie · 17/07/2025 16:30

Poppins21 · 17/07/2025 15:31

He doesn’t sound super intelligent- read something once and then getting a fixed mindset. Intelligence requires critical thinking! This guy sounds like a complete tool

He's not a tool. He just remembers everything and doesn't have time to stay up to date with the progress of said things.

And then when he feels he 'knows' something about something, he doesn't like being challenged, especially if that something makes sense to him. He centres himself as being the norm - if he isn't a berry picker type, it therefore makes sense that all men aren't berry picker types, because he is a man. Because this knowledge makes sense to him, it must be true, and any developments after this that counter this simply cannot be true. In his experience, it is - and so it is. And he will use that as justification - if you prove something to be universally and empirically different to his experience, he will still hold onto his experience as being more valid, in some way casting doubt on it.

It's things like this that make me think he might be autistic. He's not selfish, at all, even though it might sound like he is, but he is very... self-centred. He doesn't seem to be able to put himself in other people's shoes and imagine that different people experience things in different ways. He considers his own mould to be the default, men and women are different and he is a man, so all men are like him.

But if it's something he actively engages in or is interested in, he will change his mind and view as the evidence evolves.

OP posts:
Daisyvodka · 17/07/2025 17:03

I want you to read back what you have said there...
"He's not a tool."
Okay but...

He just remembers everything and doesn't have time to stay up to date with the progress of said things.
> He works part time and doesn't do any house maintenance and has loads of time to spend on multiple hobbies... so he has way more time than the average person?

And then when he feels he 'knows' something about something, he doesn't like being challenged, especially if that something makes sense to him. He centres himself as being the norm.
> He doesn't like it if he thinks something is true and someone suggests he might be wrong, because he thinks it and therefore it must be true? 'Knowing' lots of things you dont have any evidence for being true doesn't make you intelligent, he hates being challenged so isnt open to new points of view, he thinks his experience is the only experience... so he's not capable of critical thinking. He struggles to learn new things. Literally all the markers of intelligence, he misses. Why do you think you still view him as an intelligent man - does he just express 'knowledge' about a lot of different/unusual things at you?

Also, let's step away from the word tool for a sec and think about what makes someone a decent person.
Being polite in conversation even when its a tricky one.
Open to learning.
Open to learning they are wrong and being willing to admit it.
Understand that other people have different experiences and perhaps more knowledge on certain topics than them.
He doesn't do any of this. And actively fights against it.
Also, you have admitted here he has sexist ideas - he is not a smart man if he cannot self reflect and realise there is no logical reason to have those views.
Im really sorry, im really not trying to be harsh, but even when you are trying to bring a balanced view of him, he doesn't come off looking good at all. The fact he behaves like a child when he works for you, instead of him wanting to do his best at the job so you think well of him, is quite revealing really. I think you are doing a good job of working this through out loud.

Dotto · 17/07/2025 17:16

He sounds like a tool to me..

DidILeaveTheGasOn · 17/07/2025 17:27

I believe @Daisyvodka is spot on.

I wonder if he holds you in contempt. He is incapable of communicating with you in an open, intelligent and engaging manner. He finishes your sentences incorrectly because he wasn't listening in the first place, because he can't deal with listening to you at all. He wants your part of the conversation to be over. Possibly permanently.

I wonder if, not hidden very well below the surface, he's seething with resentment, contempt and arrogance.

Lockdownsceptic · 17/07/2025 18:32

Three things stand out from what you have said:
Your Dad was good at this sort of stuff
You can fix things by looking at google
Your DH works in IT
The answer to these points is:
You didn’t marry your father
Why should anyone do jobs that another person is better at
He works on IT.
I’m sorry OP but you are on a loser thinking you can get anyone who works in IT to do practical things. That and accountancy do not go well with DIY.
My advice would be to stop asking him to do things you know he won’t and get a man in.
You’ll be happier if you try to focus on DH’s good qualities - there must be some.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 17/07/2025 19:43

Bloozie · 17/07/2025 16:30

He's not a tool. He just remembers everything and doesn't have time to stay up to date with the progress of said things.

And then when he feels he 'knows' something about something, he doesn't like being challenged, especially if that something makes sense to him. He centres himself as being the norm - if he isn't a berry picker type, it therefore makes sense that all men aren't berry picker types, because he is a man. Because this knowledge makes sense to him, it must be true, and any developments after this that counter this simply cannot be true. In his experience, it is - and so it is. And he will use that as justification - if you prove something to be universally and empirically different to his experience, he will still hold onto his experience as being more valid, in some way casting doubt on it.

It's things like this that make me think he might be autistic. He's not selfish, at all, even though it might sound like he is, but he is very... self-centred. He doesn't seem to be able to put himself in other people's shoes and imagine that different people experience things in different ways. He considers his own mould to be the default, men and women are different and he is a man, so all men are like him.

But if it's something he actively engages in or is interested in, he will change his mind and view as the evidence evolves.

What you’ve just described is a tool. A massive one.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 17/07/2025 19:44

Lockdownsceptic · 17/07/2025 18:32

Three things stand out from what you have said:
Your Dad was good at this sort of stuff
You can fix things by looking at google
Your DH works in IT
The answer to these points is:
You didn’t marry your father
Why should anyone do jobs that another person is better at
He works on IT.
I’m sorry OP but you are on a loser thinking you can get anyone who works in IT to do practical things. That and accountancy do not go well with DIY.
My advice would be to stop asking him to do things you know he won’t and get a man in.
You’ll be happier if you try to focus on DH’s good qualities - there must be some.

Did you only read the OP? If so, clicking on ‘read all’ and reading her subsequent posts will show that the thread has moved on. It’s not really about DIY.

Poppins21 · 17/07/2025 21:10

Bloozie · 17/07/2025 16:30

He's not a tool. He just remembers everything and doesn't have time to stay up to date with the progress of said things.

And then when he feels he 'knows' something about something, he doesn't like being challenged, especially if that something makes sense to him. He centres himself as being the norm - if he isn't a berry picker type, it therefore makes sense that all men aren't berry picker types, because he is a man. Because this knowledge makes sense to him, it must be true, and any developments after this that counter this simply cannot be true. In his experience, it is - and so it is. And he will use that as justification - if you prove something to be universally and empirically different to his experience, he will still hold onto his experience as being more valid, in some way casting doubt on it.

It's things like this that make me think he might be autistic. He's not selfish, at all, even though it might sound like he is, but he is very... self-centred. He doesn't seem to be able to put himself in other people's shoes and imagine that different people experience things in different ways. He considers his own mould to be the default, men and women are different and he is a man, so all men are like him.

But if it's something he actively engages in or is interested in, he will change his mind and view as the evidence evolves.

I would not put up with his behaviour and I certainly wouldn’t be defending it. A previous poster asked the simple question” does he make you happy” and I think that would be valuable to think about. Does he treat your son with this same level of intellect distain?

MrsSunshine2b · 17/07/2025 21:47

He doesn't sound that intelligent to me. He doesn't earn much money, doesn't work full time and doesn't do any household tasks or DIY. What exactly is he clever at?

Lockdownsceptic · 17/07/2025 22:11

ForZanyAquaViewer · 17/07/2025 19:44

Did you only read the OP? If so, clicking on ‘read all’ and reading her subsequent posts will show that the thread has moved on. It’s not really about DIY.

It never is.

orwellwasright2025 · 17/07/2025 22:39

Bloozie · 17/07/2025 09:56

A normal employee wouldn't get to pick and choose. They'd hate me on the inside for asking them to do something dull, hard or shitty, but get on it.

And yes, I get very angry. And in those scenarios, he somehow emerges as the victim, because I am asking him to do something he feels is unreasonable that he doesn't feel comfortable with. He doesn't like operating outside of his comfort zone, would say he has a growth mindset, would intellectually understand that discomfort is how you grow, but violently rejects feeling uncomfortable or out of his depth. He wants to be the expert, or have no part in it, and if he isn't interested in becoming expert God-level in whatever it is, he just will not do it. I think it's the legal ramifications that scare him - he doesn't want to be responsible for it.

I think he doesn't really want to be responsible for anything. It's responsibility full stop that scares him.

If I broached that, he'd reject it angrily.

Edited

He's just lazy and selfish, you're massively overcomplicating. If his life depended on it, he'd do it. He won't change, he will always be lazy and selfish, what you do with that is up to you.

Reallyneedsaholiday · 18/07/2025 07:48

If he finds it “emasculating” to ask another man who knows more than he does, how does asking a woman to sort it out for him, make him feel? 🤔

You need to have a serious think about what he’s bringing to this relationship, and then communicate that to him, when there isn’t anything that needs doing “right now”, ie don’t bring it up when you’re arguing about who needs to unblock the shower drain, but at a time when you can just talk about your relationship in general, and how you see your lives going forward. As others have said, your child(ren) will be watching and listening to how you treat each other.