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One million immigrants claiming benefits

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AnxiousApocalypse · 16/07/2025 01:15

Just been reading the comments sections of the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail articles about the one million foreigners claiming benefits in the UK. It feels like the final nail in the coffin and a lot of people will feel even more justified in expressing their anger and hate towards immigrants. What happens when Reform win the next general election and come into power? Will people be rounded up en masse and put in detention centres like the USA?

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BIossomtoes · 16/07/2025 08:28

Jennps · 16/07/2025 08:18

Borrowing and printing a trillion pounds to pay for Covid? How did that work out then?

nearly 20% inflation, that’s how.

You’s have to be economically and fiscally illiterate to make the argument that bowing and paying for unproductive people is the way to go.

Where on earth did you get those figures from? A trillion? 20% inflation? You certainly gave to be economically and fiscally illiterate to make up nonsense like that and expect other people to believe it.

Genevieva · 16/07/2025 08:29

RunningBlueFox · 16/07/2025 07:59

She is not a naturalised citizen she is British by descent - these are different things. If your DH is naturalised his parents must have been born somewhere outside of the UK. I am a naturalised citizen of NZ as I lived there long enough to qualify. On any NZ stats I would be classed as a migrant even though I hold a passport and a certificate of citizenship. My DD is classed as a migrant if place of birth is used as the identifier which it frequently is in migration stats. Just as your husband would be regardless of the fact they both hold British passports via different mechanisms.

That’s what u was telling her. She was saying her British child was an immigrant because she was born overseas. She isn’t. She’s British. You do hear ‘born overseas’ or ‘foreign born parent’ being used at the moment as a data collection point for foreigners, but it’s not actually accurate. Yes - my husband’s family came to the U.K. because his mother was British by descent through her father. They worked here for 5 years then applied for passports for her husband and child. Her children born here were British by birth. But 3 of my husband’s 4 grandparents were not British and the one who was had spent precious little time in the U.K. so my husband used to spend the holidays visiting family overseas and still has a passport for his country of birth. The cost of living is much lower there so if we fell on hard times we’d move there. We would expect U.K. taxpayers to fund our existence. That’s got to be a last resort otherwise the system becomes so overloaded that the U.K. becomes economically uncompetitive and everyone loses out.

LakieLady · 16/07/2025 08:29

GoFaster83 · 16/07/2025 06:00

Wow. I thought this site had achieved peak hate speak but apparently not. If mumsnet was a movie trilogy the next one would be trans immigrants. "Coming here stealing our benefits and our toilets".

😂

Haters are always gonna hate, and it's all too easy for the right wing media to fuel that fire.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/07/2025 08:29

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Genevieva · 16/07/2025 08:29

@ RunningBlueFox
I not u! A terrible type. I should have noticed.

SilverHammer · 16/07/2025 08:30

Itsanewnameeveryday · 16/07/2025 03:31

I’m confused by these UK concerns.
In Australia 30% of residents were born OS, 50% have parents who were born overseas.
We have our fair share of older folk, people from small country towns and even some outright racists but I hardly ever hear any concerns about scrounging migrants.
Unemployment is 4% and migrants seem to be working hard (many have more than one job).

We aren't talking about Australia though.

randomchap · 16/07/2025 08:30

Jennps · 16/07/2025 08:28

No it’s not. Unless you struggle with basic maths.

😂

You're not coming across well at all. Maybe it's time to go outside, enjoy the sunshine

Jennps · 16/07/2025 08:31

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Look if you can’t do basic sums and your understanding of how the economy works is from year 8 schooling, that’s on you. You could educate yourself and then you’d actually make some sense. And be less angry and abusive.

Jennps · 16/07/2025 08:32

randomchap · 16/07/2025 08:30

😂

You're not coming across well at all. Maybe it's time to go outside, enjoy the sunshine

Awww thanks. Only you could come up with something so original. Glad you’ve run out of an argument to make. Usually happens when you don’t know you’re talking about.

TheFrendo · 16/07/2025 08:32

It will be more than a million.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/07/2025 08:32

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BIossomtoes · 16/07/2025 08:32

Jennps · 16/07/2025 08:31

Look if you can’t do basic sums and your understanding of how the economy works is from year 8 schooling, that’s on you. You could educate yourself and then you’d actually make some sense. And be less angry and abusive.

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You clearly have no understanding of numbers - a trillion indeed.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/07/2025 08:33

TheFrendo · 16/07/2025 08:32

It will be more than a million.

Don't the DWP keep track? Could you provide a link?

Dorisbonson · 16/07/2025 08:33

ZaZathecat · 16/07/2025 08:16

People working full time in low paid jobs are often entitled to Universal Credit as a top up. A lot of immigrants are doing low paid jobs.
Yes, these kind of headlines are a gift to people like Farage and the kind of the GB news peddle all the time.

So they pay low levels of tax due to low wages and therefore have to be subsidised by taxpayers. We don't need more low skill workers, British people can do those jobs and should be forced to work. 25% of the working age population of Birmingham is economically inactive - that's higher than during the Great Depression.

Government spending per person is on average 17k. If they earn 30k, they pay 5k tax and receive 12k subsidy from government. This is a crazy situation - over a decade that's 120k subsidy! It's absolutely mental.

We need to deport immigrants and even pay money to them to return home. If it's costing us 12k to 17k per year on average (what about the hotels) then deporting immigrants here illegally would save a stack of cash and then a separate programme paying economic migrants to go back to their home countries would also make huge sense.

This would help with our housing shortage, NHS issues and even take cars off the road. There would be more money for doctors salaries and teachers.

randomchap · 16/07/2025 08:33

Jennps · 16/07/2025 08:32

Awww thanks. Only you could come up with something so original. Glad you’ve run out of an argument to make. Usually happens when you don’t know you’re talking about.

I'm sorry, I didn't realise pointing out your bullshit would upset you so much

Miley23 · 16/07/2025 08:34

mindutopia · 16/07/2025 08:27

I’m technically an ‘immigrant’ probably according to the Daily Mail. I immigrated to the UK on a spousal visa, though I have acquired citizenship now. I receive ESA because I’m off work going through cancer treatment. It’s like £500 a month. Prior to this, I’ve always worked, unless on maternity leave leave. Dh and I earn very well and contribute quite a lot in taxes as high earners. Prior to my indefinite leave to remain, it was very clear that I had no recourse to public funds and nor did dh because he lived with me.

You have paid into the system for years though and are only claiming a contributions based benefit. I have had two clients recently through work who have lived here for less than five years each, came here in their fifties to work low pay jobs and now are both too ill to work. each are getting around £1400 a month in UC and PIP. They both have conditions which mean they are unlikely to work again so these will continue indefinitely. How is that affordable ? They have paid in so little and taking so much for years to come. I feel really sorry for them but I still think it is unsustainable when multiplied thousands of times. One of them also now on the list for social housing and will likely need housing for the foreseeable future. I don't understand how people heading towards mid fifties when there is an increased chance of illness are granted work visas in the first place ?

Jennps · 16/07/2025 08:34

randomchap · 16/07/2025 08:33

I'm sorry, I didn't realise pointing out your bullshit would upset you so much

Still struggling to string an argument together? What a surprise.

Lafufufu · 16/07/2025 08:35

Don't worry there will be a labour luvvie along shortly to tell you its all in your mind.

We are 52.6% net receivers - its not sustainable and we are just kidding ourselves if we want to pretend the majority of those are single parent nurses with 2 kids or severely disabled people.

You have to hope it gets better but I do wonder how the uk is going to come back from this current state

Jennps · 16/07/2025 08:36

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Aww still abusive and angry I see. You’ll get over it, but you’d have to educate yourself. Alas.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/07/2025 08:36

Lafufufu · 16/07/2025 08:35

Don't worry there will be a labour luvvie along shortly to tell you its all in your mind.

We are 52.6% net receivers - its not sustainable and we are just kidding ourselves if we want to pretend the majority of those are single parent nurses with 2 kids or severely disabled people.

You have to hope it gets better but I do wonder how the uk is going to come back from this current state

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Rejoin the EU.

LakieLady · 16/07/2025 08:36

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 16/07/2025 06:51

The UK has never had "uncontrolled immigration", and nor does it have "open borders".

I have absolutely no idea why people keep perpetuating this myth.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/07/2025 08:38

LakieLady · 16/07/2025 08:36

I have absolutely no idea why people keep perpetuating this myth.

So we don't give out visas?

LaLaLoca · 16/07/2025 08:38

@BallerinaRadio is right on point.
what short memories people have; where is the 3 million a week going back into the NHS.
Reform are playing fantasy politics and we can see it unravelling through their inexperienced Elected Members who have quit the role.

What about the wealthiest of people who continue to hoard their extreme wealth? This should be the focus. Meanwhile the right wing press are pitting the most marginalised people in society to create a moral panic whilst the wealthy continue to exploit.

Dorisbonson · 16/07/2025 08:38

HPFA · 16/07/2025 08:25

More immigrants and benefits bashing.

Look at America - an army subject to no laws or oversight pulling people off the streets because they look Hispanic - as even the government has now admitted - thrown into cages and half-starved. What happens when disease hits?

And inflation rising, job growth slowing, people left to drown, millions taken out of healthcare....all to give huge tax breaks to the very rich.

That's the future Reform likes the look of. The same people who thought Brexit was a good idea.

Since 2007 America's GDP per capita has grown in real terms 37% whilst ours has shrunk 2%.

Our wages are now 40% lower than America's wages, 20 years ago there was only a 10% difference.

Net Zero and our crazy immigration policies are key reasons why the UK is getting poorer and poorer.

Addictedtohotbaths · 16/07/2025 08:40

HeyThereDelila · 16/07/2025 07:03

Most of them are from the EU and were here before Brexit. Most of them are claiming in work benefits.

The minority claiming when they’ve no right to or who haven’t contributed shouldn’t be receiving a penny.

If they were paid a proper wage then they wouldn’t need to be claiming in work benefits, that’s half the problem.

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