One million immigrants claiming benefits

[AnxiousApocalypse]

Just been reading the comments sections of the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail articles about the one million foreigners claiming benefits in the UK. It feels like the final nail in the coffin and a lot of people will feel even more justified in expressing their anger and hate towards immigrants. What happens when Reform win the next general election and come into power? Will people be rounded up en masse and put in detention centres like the USA?

People working full time in low paid jobs are often entitled to Universal Credit as a top up. A lot of immigrants are doing low paid jobs.
Yes, these kind of headlines are a gift to people like Farage and the kind of the GB news peddle all the time.

Genuinely I don’t understand why people who arrive illegally are not detained until it is decided if they are genuine asylum seekers or not and it is properly ascertained who they are.

You said you didn't understand and that your lack of understanding was genuine. I believe you. It's not illegal for someone to enter a country to claim asylum - see the Refugee Convention.

You also genuinely don't understand that it's not easy to increase detention space - see the current prison crisis for more information. I understand that human rights aren't important to you (though I'm sure you'd claim to respect Western values) but there's a concern about human rights abuses - see Yarl's Wood.

Borrowing and printing a trillion pounds to pay for Covid? How did that work out then?

nearly 20% inflation, that’s how.

You’s have to be economically and fiscally illiterate to make the argument that bowing and paying for unproductive people is the way to go.

Also worth mentioning that refugees make up a tiny number of those claiming benefits.

Tony Blair admits he did not realise how many migrants would come to the UK after EU expanded.

https://archive.ph/oewrc The Telegraph.

What does that mean though? Does it include pensions, and therefore MIL who came to this country when she married FIL in her 20s and has worked here almost all her life and who now has a state pension like everyone else? Or someone like her who is claiming UC or child benefit? Do we mean recent immigrants? Or do we mean settled ones who lost their job recently?

Ah yes, I don’t like numbers so I’ll make up some nonsense to refute facts because they don’t suit my economically illiterate narrative.

Yeah, that’s it.

Are you okay?

Good thanks, and you?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2076666/uber-eats-deliveroo-takeaway-kitchen

Unless this situation is addressed robustly and swiftly in the next twelve months, you better be ready for a reform government…with Farage as PM.

That is actually happening.

YABU

No wonder this country is sinking.

You’re very naive if you think it just stops at benefits.

At least Nigel Farage would have enough common sense to deport them to Rwanda before this country is completely broken.

Let us all pray there aren’t too many ‘sleepers’ infiltrating us. The UK needs to wake up, and quickly.

Sub41k spongers... get these teachers, nurses, carers, labourers, bin men, bus drivers OUT NOW!!

The fact that this thread will almost inevitably be deleted tells you why we've got such a problem. No one is allowed to raise their concerns and that's why we're in this present mess.

He didn't realise half of Romania would come? He is thick as shit.

Australia has a much more selective immigration policy towards economic migrants and additionally turns boats around. The UK does not have the same level of selection and does not turn boats around.

More immigrants and benefits bashing.

Look at America - an army subject to no laws or oversight pulling people off the streets because they look Hispanic - as even the government has now admitted - thrown into cages and half-starved. What happens when disease hits?

And inflation rising, job growth slowing, people left to drown, millions taken out of healthcare....all to give huge tax breaks to the very rich.

That's the future Reform likes the look of. The same people who thought Brexit was a good idea.

Unlikely with 4 MPs and teenagers running councils.

Yes, people use money to buy goods and services. I'm glad you understand that.

People who don't earn this 41k are still contributing to society. Your net contribution is way more than just what you pay in tax.

The only number mentioned is the 41k figure you yourself suggested people Google, so if there's any economic illiteracy going on...

"economically illiterate narrative"

Yes, better still, we just need more profound stupidity like this -

If you are not a net contributor, then other people are paying for you to live for free. We have plenty of those in this country already. We don’t need to bring in more to add to the burden

The solution to an economy failing because of unsustainable borrowing, meaning we can't pay for public services or train the staff necessary to keep them functional, and therefore have to outsource the jobs to cheaper, foreign labour, is to simply pretend those jobs don't require filling and watch these services cease to be in an instant.

I’m technically an ‘immigrant’ probably according to the Daily Mail. I immigrated to the UK on a spousal visa, though I have acquired citizenship now. I receive ESA because I’m off work going through cancer treatment. It’s like £500 a month. Prior to this, I’ve always worked, unless on maternity leave leave. Dh and I earn very well and contribute quite a lot in taxes as high earners. Prior to my indefinite leave to remain, it was very clear that I had no recourse to public funds and nor did dh because he lived with me.

This thread proves that large parts of the existing population is too mathematically challenged to understand that it money that is used to pay for stuff, virtues can only signalled, shops don’t expect them as legal tender to most for stuff.

And unless the country is producing more than it’s consuming then you have to bottle almost £20b a month to pay for stuff, like we do now.

And when you add millions more people from overseas who take more out of the system than they put in, you eventually go bankrupt or go knocking on IMFs door.

As I say, a lot of people on this country and most on this thread are too economically and fiscally illiterate to figure this out.

Oh the irony! 😂

A lot of them were actively invited and recruited in.

Try writing that again to actually make some sense?

No it’s not. Unless you struggle with basic maths.