One million immigrants claiming benefits

[AnxiousApocalypse]

Just been reading the comments sections of the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail articles about the one million foreigners claiming benefits in the UK. It feels like the final nail in the coffin and a lot of people will feel even more justified in expressing their anger and hate towards immigrants. What happens when Reform win the next general election and come into power? Will people be rounded up en masse and put in detention centres like the USA?

Nothing will happen, Nothing will ever change no matter who is in government. There's probably way more than 1 million migrants claiming benefits and the numbers will continue to rise. my area has become swamped with migrants from all corners of the globe in recent years who seem to spend their days lounging around in our local park, I see the same faces regularly whilst walking my dog. im not having it that they all must work nights! they're most probably on benefits. mind you I'm sure i heard that asylum seekers were not allowed to work, not sure if this is true. nice that they can sun themselves in the park all day and be paid by the government to do so.

But what does that mean? Is it child benefit but people are working ? Or are we talking about people not working ?

Nothing will change however I do feel that a lot of protests may start taking place, especially now its come to light about the leaked email regarding thousands of extra afghans being snuck in.

reform will struggle to do alot, we are pretty much screwed.

Definitely a Reform government coming next but not sure what anyone can do at this point. The UK is doomed.

It's not good is it?

The UK can't accept everyone!

So you're cool with one million foreigners claiming benefits then? Or are you saying you don't believe the Telegraph and think they're lying?

Is it expressing anger and hate towards immigrants to ask that one million foreigners don't claim benefits in a country which is in horrific financial straits and in a downard spiral?

Yes, if this sort of attitude keeps up Reform will win.

I live ina deprived area. There are huge numbers of immigrants in our town living in social housing /not working and presumably claiming benefits. I’m not sure what the solution is? A stricter entry system? But what happens to asylum seekers?

What benefit? Asylum seekers are not allowed to work. If living in a hotel they receive less than £10 a week per person and then once in a dispersal property it goes up to £50. They have no access to other benefits.if they have leave to remain they can claim uc but most support themselves.

Fucks me right off.

My husband has NO RECOURSE TO PUBLIC FUNDS stamped on his spousal visa that costs us thousands of pounds to renew each time.

The legal immigrants (and we, their families) pay through the fucking nose (including separate hefty NHS surcharges for health services that are too oversubscribed for him to have ever accessed).

And because of headlines like this we have people assume he is receiving this and that! Sometimes people think he is here for that purpose. Sometimes people he is working with at his 60hr a week job. Absolute fucking morons.

I’m confused by these UK concerns.
In Australia 30% of residents were born OS, 50% have parents who were born overseas.
We have our fair share of older folk, people from small country towns and even some outright racists but I hardly ever hear any concerns about scrounging migrants.
Unemployment is 4% and migrants seem to be working hard (many have more than one job).

@AnxiousApocalypse

We are not the only country that takes asylum seekers/immigration. I don’t know how we compare proportionally to other European countries now but I remember Germany taking far more than the UK a few years ago.

As the result of war, it’s usually the surrounding safe countries who take the highest number of asylum
seekers.
I think we also need to remember that we are responsible for global inequality, exploitation, depletion of resources and poverty. The history books may paint us as heroes, but we have done some dreadful things to the countries that want support from us.

Papers like the Telegraph, Mail and Farage like to portray it a certain way. Dehumanising people, making out immigrants are criminals, xenophobia - but I think there is far more to it than that.
Sadly - since Covid, financial pressures - people are lapping up the Farage type ethos. Everyone is out for themselves and focussed on their own individualism.

That’s a bigger problem I think.
We are a global community.

We’ve exploited other countries, killed on a far, far greater scale than what we are experiencing back now.

Loud of fear mongering bullshit used to fuel hatred for immigrants. My wife is an immigrant and she is quite clearly not entitled to any benefits & this is stated in her visa. I just read the articles & looked at the stats - 83% of benefit claimants are British or Irish & live and work in the uk. Only 1% are people with limited leave to remain/non settler status.

This is such a self centred view - the Uk is a declining economy that really isn’t as important or amazing as people think it is

We should get over ourselves as the saviours / devils and act as a normal country that is fine to recognise borders should exist and that you can’t throw money at everyone

I don’t live in the UK now and the idea I would get benefits from the country I am in is laughable

Citizenship means something where I am, and that is considered perfectly reasonable

“Colonialism significantly shaped the Middle East through the imposition of new borders, political structures, and economic systems, often disrupting existing social and cultural landscapes. This led to lasting impacts on national identities, political stability, and economic development, with ongoing conflicts and tensions often traced back to colonial legacies.”

We taken their oil, natural gas, caused extreme historical disruption and poverty.

And now we like to dehumanise and paint them as criminal boat people when they attempt to escape what we created in their country.

What were we when we went over in our boats historically and destroyed their way of living? Heroes?

Asylum seekers only get £49 on a payment card, they are unable to work or claim any benefits.
The immigrants in the stats quoted in this article are claiming a proportionate amount compared to UK citizens, and most of this is UC or child care allowance. They have indefinite leave to remain or are UK citizens.

“European powers, particularly Britain and France, carved up the Middle East following World War I, often disregarding existing ethnic and tribal boundaries, which laid the foundation for future conflicts. This legacy of colonialism continues to affect the region today, contributing to ongoing political tensions and power imbalances”

“Colonial powers extracted resources and controlled trade routes, hindering the economic development of the region and perpetuating dependency on Western powers.”

“In the late 1920s, the Italian fascist regime implemented a campaign of ethnic cleansing in eastern Libya to create more land for Italian settlers and quell armed resistance to colonization.”

“The Middle East has been a central target of Western imperialism because it is home to two things that matter a great deal to the people who run capitalism: oil and trade routes.”

“This became the basis of the agreement (known as Sykes-Picot) drawn up with French diplomat Francois Georges-Picot a few months later. They took out a map, a ruler and a pencil, and with a few small markings dictated the fate of millions of people. Britain took what is now Palestine, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt, while France claimed Syria and Lebanon. In 1920, this setup was mandated by the League of Nations, the precursor to the United Nations.”

Hopefully

I think the British are being played. You're all being encouraged to hate the people who might be immigrants when the real problem is lack of public investment in housing, education and health.