One million immigrants claiming benefits

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Just been reading the comments sections of the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail articles about the one million foreigners claiming benefits in the UK. It feels like the final nail in the coffin and a lot of people will feel even more justified in expressing their anger and hate towards immigrants. What happens when Reform win the next general election and come into power? Will people be rounded up en masse and put in detention centres like the USA?

This thread just proves that these conversations are worthless.

There's no nuance, very little dealing with facts and people just outright making things up to prove their point.

Sure, let's just say 'immigrants' are the problem here without looking at the actual issues that's worked well for us over the last ten years.

And bless all of you saying that Reform will get in and 'solve' all of this. They're already proving that populist soundbites can't run a council never mind the country.

Its more than fair they were let in. These are Afghans who supported us in the war, a spreadsheet was sent via unsecure channels and partially posted online. That error directly put these people in direct danger. The reason it was under an injunction was to allow them to be brought over without it being all over the Internet and media as again they were a target.

Yet more Reform propaganda.

A little information is a dangerous thing. This stat is meaningless - pretty much everyone claims child benefit, immigrant or not. We're never going to see the headline saying "immigrants pay £XXX in tax every year".

I'm sure there are some people who come to this country specifically with the intention of scrounging off the state. But I don't think anyone genuinely has any idea how many.

Reform suck, but reality is its a myriad of issues including unfettered illegal migration thats the problem. Sure, if people could afford to live, had decent services, adequate housing etc then there'd be less resentment towards people having stuff handed on a plate and our taxes supporting that. But there are other issues with bringing large quantities of young men from countries whereby the laws and attitudes to women are vastly different and saturating them into hotels.

And bless all of you saying that Reform will get in and 'solve' all of this. They're already proving that populist soundbites can't run a council never mind the country

Yes, but they'll boot out some brown people with limited English skills, and that's all that matters to the simpletons who are happy to see the NHS sold off, what's left of the UK asset-stripped, and the poor and disabled effectively made slave-labour for whatever pittance the State deigns to give them.

This.

Asylum seekers aren't entitled to benefits. Reform do nothing but stoke division and hate and peddle lies.

Is it? Both the Home Office and Parliament confirmed it was costing this per day in 2023, its unlikely those costs have fallen much if at all since.

The scandal here is that people who'd fought alongside the British at great personal risk, and who were promised protection, were ever left behind in the first place.

This is the thing though, they won't boot them out! Sure they'll tell the country that is is what they'll do, but their politics are just fantasy.

They are led by the man that sold the Brexit dream that would make us all richer, when in reality it just made him and his mates richer.

The UK is screwed because so many British people either don’t work, work minimal hours, don’t value education, have multiple children they can’t afford, don’t instill a good work ethic in their children, who also become adults with multiple children who work the absolute bare minimum. The problem in the UK is that being lazy, minimal effort etc seems to be the default.

So so fed up of immigrants being blamed for all the problems in this country while no one mentions the decades of poor government policy/ billionaires hoarding wealth and not paying much tax/ Brexit wrecking our economy.

No, let's blame it on the 'foreigners' and write loads of articles about small boats and benefits to get Joe Public riled up so they think they have no choice but to vote for a fascist Reform government.

Those of you who fall for it need some critical thinking skills.

Asylum seekers aren't entitled to benefits.

Whilst they are being processed, but once granted they are able to work but also entitled (even encouraged) to claim benefits:

Claiming Universal Credit and other benefits if you are a refugee - GOV.UK https://share.google/8D32lzRkhKgckmbah

Also my post was mentioning the cost of hotels per day which is what your previous post was evidently questioning.

Spot on @Readytrew. Brexit has clearly been an economic disaster for the UK - none of the promised benefits have materialised. So Farage needs a new hobby horse - blaming migrants, so no one will call him out on the harm he has already done to this country. The question is - how many people won't spot the trick? SURELY, Brits aren't that dim - surely? Last time, Farage came to my hometown (in Scotland) he was followed by a bunch of protesters singing "Nigel is a bawbag." Crude - but fair enough. The man has no shame.

As ever it's helpful to understand the numbers rather than get a cob on over headlines.

People need to be here legally with settled status/indefinite leave to remain or, in the case of EU people, be working. If they've shown a commitment to the UK and paid taxes then the qui pro quo is a right to be treated fairly.

Don't blame the present government for this. The main driver is the bulge in legal migration from non-EU countries following Brexit

This country is screwed, economically, socially , culturally. We are in terminal decline.

The UK birth rate is something like 1.5 at the moment, and there's the two child benefit cap anyway. I'm not convinced that as a country we're being pulled down by lots of people having lots of kids they can't afford.

My post was questioning constant Reform fans salivating at another xenophobic thread where everyone vents spleen at foreigners.

People need to get their terminology correct. Immigrants, asylum seekers, illegal immigrants are all different yet all lumped together.

There are plenty of people born here who contribute nothing but take loads. From education, healthcare, UC etc

i could give so much fact on the benefit eligibility but don’t suppose it would make any difference.

I haven’t seen the source of the statistics. State Pension counts as a benefit in the government finances. Does it include my parents’ state pension, now British, recruited from abroad as doctors. They may have got Child Benefit as I was born before 1983 and could get British citizenship by birth.

It’s depressing and painful when clients at work will tell me about how disgusted they are at the “immigrants” getting benefits then say - “but not you of course”.

I feel that the very same people who tolerate this in the asylum system , the DWP,the home office.the Government knew this was coming and did fuck all and I am talking past and present Governments,however what I cannot tolerate was the attempts to put the blame soley for this eyewatering expenditure on sick and disabled people which they have tried to do. That is scandalous to me. They need to blame anyone but themselves,they take no accountability for their failings yet feel its ok to go after the most vulnerable in society at the same time and it is really not ok.

@Passwordsaremynemesis Do you mind me asking how expensive exactly? Because it’s not easy or cheap to get visas etc for this country.

And like relationship cheaters who think their partner is cheating because they are, British people think foreigners are desperately seeking measly British benefits. Most foreigners want to work. They want to do well and look like the 'big man' to the folks back home, not just about survive on benefits. Those claiming benefits are either working as well, or they're doing so while they make a start in a new country.