One million immigrants claiming benefits

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Just been reading the comments sections of the Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail articles about the one million foreigners claiming benefits in the UK. It feels like the final nail in the coffin and a lot of people will feel even more justified in expressing their anger and hate towards immigrants. What happens when Reform win the next general election and come into power? Will people be rounded up en masse and put in detention centres like the USA?

Quite. If the immigrants in question are able to claim benefits, then they have been through due process and are fully entitled to. If they have not been through due process, they can't claim anything.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/pensioners-or-refugees/

You do realise that a lot of immigrants have indefinitely leave to remain, work here and pay taxes right?
to answer your question what would happen if reform wins. Well if people like you believe scaremongering articles (and im sure theres more to come) then we are doomed.

and another thing everytime there is an election there a thousands of articles coming out about immigration. Thats how they control the vote. I wish people could actually think for themselves and not use dailymail as their primary source of information. Also there are nearly 8milion british people claiming benefits and many of them have never worked a day in their life.

So is your partner reporting this illegal work?

Exactly, why does Britain continually have to pay for the sins of our fathers? I don’t see any other country being constantly chastised the way we are.

have multiple children they can’t afford,

That was previous generations, look at the birth rates...

We already have more over 65 yr olds vs under 15 yr olds.

And show our deep gratitude to the generation that made it possible?

What?

I don’t blame them for claiming benefits, I blame our system.

If someone moves here and people in their community tell them they can claim X, Y and Z and don’t work more than X hours because you can claim UC, then they are going to do it.

The system is screwed and it’s not just immigrants gaming it, it’s a lot of people.

The world is more connected now than it has ever been. The days of plundering faraway lands and returning home in glory with great spoils, leaving behind chaos, is over.

When the UK invaded and destabilised Iraq and Afghanistan, why are you surprised that these people follow you home? That's the reality of life in the 21st century. One way or another, you will pay.

Does anyone else feel like its a massive social experiment that has gone way too far and has gone disasterously wrong?

No

You certainly aren't showing a lot of gratitude to all the servicemen (and women) from my husband's family who served for the Allies in WWII.

Canting pricks

Iraq and Afghanistan are not the sins of your fathers. Besides, didn't you hear that the sins of the fathers will be visited upon the sons, even to the third and fourth generations?

I'm assuming that statistic includes my mother, why shouldn't she claim the benefits in the system that she has paid into since she was 16? She has no pension contributions in her home country because she's been paying into our system all her working life!

It’s astonishing that people are still burying their heads in the sand, engaging in whataboutery and refuting that immigration is a problem in this country.

The attempts to shut down people speaking out by calling them racist are so predictable and don’t wash so well anymore. Uncontrolled immigration has meant that all immigration risks losing support in this country.

You can’t blame people coming over. Who wouldn’t make the most of a mug country which doesn’t mind having open borders and adding a million people a year who on average are net takers. Unfortunately, we are not bringing people who area adding value to the economy. You can be as disingenuous as you like arguing that someone needs to do low paid jobs, the truth is that they don’t. Uncontrolled and unskilled immigration just acts a replacement for investment in the economy on automation and increased productivity. It’s a complete disaster.

On top of that the unskilled immigrants bring large families, non working spouses and elderly relatives with them, adding massive costs to the economy. Immigrants are over represented in welfare and social housing claim numbers too.

It is absolute madness that someone on near minimum wage can come in, bring their children to schooled here, a mom working spouse who adds nothing to the economy and elderly parents who are further drain on the NHS. In a few years, they claim social housing, universal credit, due to poor English requiring interpreters to use the public services they haven’t contributed to and many more issues.

Immigration in this country is broken, putting huge burdens on the ever decreasing number of net contributors and will be final straw the breaks the camel’s back financially.

Asylum seekers are not the same thing as immigrants.

And it certainly isn't accepting everyone.

It’s astonishing that people are still burying their heads in the sand, engaging in whataboutery and refuting that immigration is a problem in this country.

There are issues with immigration, but people conflate all immigrants with each other.

You mean once they've been granted leave to remain, as they can't claim before then?

You mean our education system? Yes.

putting huge burdens on the ever decreasing number of net contributors and will be final straw the breaks the camel’s back financially.

Many immigrants are net contributors, we have an AGEING POPULATION, that's the problem & why governments favour immigration!!!!!

In the 60s we had 5 workers to 1 pensioner, now it's 3:1 and it will be 2:1 in the not so distant future. That's the issue, and benefits including state pension are not linked to what you pay in as they are in many other European countries. We also don't pay in enough for the NHS.

@belladeli I meant the WW2 vets and generation who lived through WW2 - they opposed the kind of hatred we are seeing stirred up now with everything they had, including my own grandparents. They fought, worked in factories, were land girls, dealt with rations, put gas masks on scared children etc for years.

To me, honouring their memory means continuing to resist those who use emotive language to demonise others now. It's a cheap trick, which is consistently used by politicians wanting to take countries down an authoritarian path. They didn't put their lives on the line for that.

Please also be mindful that many are economic migrants. A minister said on LBc radio the other day that 80% of those coming on the boats are men….. hmmmmmm.

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On top of that the unskilled immigrants bring large families, non working spouses and elderly relatives with them, adding massive costs to the economy.

Big lie. Since early last year there is a minimum income requirement which unskilled immigrants cannot reach and it's hard to bring elderly relatives over whatever you earn.

And many are not net contributors. On average they are net takers.

Where’s the sense in adding more people to the ageing population who will never contribute enough but will require even more in old age? Immigrants get old too.

It’s a Ponzi scheme that will collapse soon.

70% get refugee status. Hmmmm