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I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

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Purplehat123 · 15/07/2025 13:35

I’m so tired of people with dangerous dogs ruining the park for everyone else.

Every time I take my children and our small cavapoo to the park, there’s always someone with an intimidating dog off the lead. Yesterday it was a man with a huge German Shepherd (and I mean huge), a bully breed on a lead, and an Akita off the lead just wandering around.

This is a busy, very suburban park, full of families and young children. And there I am, trying to scoop up my two toddlers, push the pram with the baby, grab the dog, and move away as fast as possible because I am not taking the risk of one of those dogs attacking. And let’s be honest, if something did happen, I’d have to sacrifice my dog to protect my children.

Even the two dogs that were technically on a lead, if they decided to go for another dog or child, there’s no way he could have held them back. They were enormous, powerful breeds.

And don’t get me started on the Akita. It was off-lead, trotting around freely as if that’s totally normal. Akitas were originally bred to guard property and hunt large game, including bears. They are strong, territorial, and known for being aggressive toward other dogs. They can be incredibly unpredictable and are not the type of breed you let wander freely in a public park full of children and pets.

Today it was a woman with a giant Rottweiler off-lead, paying absolutely no attention while she scrolled on her phone. Again, no control, no awareness. Rottweilers were originally bred to drive cattle and guard livestock, and they are incredibly strong, protective dogs. They have a natural guarding instinct, which can easily turn dangerous when not properly controlled. It’s no coincidence that they feature in so many fatal dog attacks, especially involving children. The number of child deaths caused by Rottweilers is horrifying and well-documented. It doesn’t matter how sweet you think your dog is at home but when a dog like that turns, it’s too late to stop it.

Far too many times my own dog, who is a total wimp and literally gets bullied by a chihuahua, has been attacked by dogs whose owners claim, “Oh, they never normally do that.” It’s always after the fact, once the damage is done.

And honestly, it’s the complete lack of awareness that really gets me. You might think your dog is friendly, but when you’re letting it freely wander up to children and other dogs, especially massive, powerful breeds, it’s terrifying. It might not scare you, but to everyone else, it’s incredibly intimidating.

I love dogs. I grew up with them. But this constant anxiety when I take my children out is exhausting. I shouldn’t have to be on high alert every time we go to the park because someone refuses to take basic responsibility for an animal that could cause serious harm.

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TheGreatDownandOut · 20/07/2025 22:58

@hungryduck poor toaster (dog toaster) maybe Raccoons should be muzzled. And while we are at it, let’s muzzle mosquitoes because they kill more people than any other creature.

Perhaps we can teach gothic robo-pig to do PAT tests on our electrical appliances

TheGreatDownandOut · 20/07/2025 23:00

eastegg · 20/07/2025 22:56

I don’t understand why you’re now making it about whether a dog would rip someone’s throat out, or kill them? The OP originally talked about ‘ruining the park for everyone else’. Why are you setting a higher bar for what the thread is about?

I can give countless examples of how crap owners are ruining my local parks for others, and I’ve given some on this thread, quite alarming and harassing things that have happened to me and my children. But you seem to think they’re not relevant because they don’t fall within your definition of an ‘attack’. It’s almost as if when I show that something you’ve said is just untrue, as I just did up thread, you change the goalposts of what you say is under discussion/relevant.

A few pages back it was nice when another poster, with whom I’d disagreed, and I found some common ground and we agreed to focus on that. Since then it’s become a really negative experience. You crack on. I’m gonna hide the thread now which is something I’ve never done before. Just sick of having my experiences reduced to nothing.

Oh bore off. We’ve moved on to gothic robo-pigs 😍

MuffinsAreJustCakesAtBreakfast · 20/07/2025 23:20

Some of you aren’t campaigning for safety, you’re fantasizing about cruelty.

There’s a difference between not being fond of dogs vs gleefully imagining them being abused by some of the sick methods I've seen trotted out on this thread. I can see some of the posts are being removed now.

It’s not the dogs that are unfit for public spaces. It’s some of you.

lollypop42 · 20/07/2025 23:36

@CoubousAndTourmaletgosh you are hilarious aren’t you. everyone safe then if your dog is always on a lead 👍

CoubousAndTourmalet · 20/07/2025 23:43

lollypop42 · 20/07/2025 23:36

@CoubousAndTourmaletgosh you are hilarious aren’t you. everyone safe then if your dog is always on a lead 👍

She genuinely is always on the lead. I am not joking. Livestock Protection Dogs are independent minded with poor recall, so she is on a lead for her own safety.

But to be honest, it isn't really your or anybody else's business whether my dog is on a lead. She is in no way aggressive, and poses no risk to anybody.

TheFunDog · 20/07/2025 23:48

Can I just add the problem of off leash dogs isn't usually the dog, more the owner and how responsible they are.
I love gsd, but they're not always in safe hands.

lollypop42 · 20/07/2025 23:53

@CoubousAndTourmaletit is my business if she’s on a lead or not. she’s in no way aggressive and poses no risk. until she does. i’ve heard it all before and dogs bite every day, and their owners are usually very surprised.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 21/07/2025 00:02

lollypop42 · 20/07/2025 23:53

@CoubousAndTourmaletit is my business if she’s on a lead or not. she’s in no way aggressive and poses no risk. until she does. i’ve heard it all before and dogs bite every day, and their owners are usually very surprised.

You clearly know nothing whatsoever about dogs.
I have had this breed for 48 years and trained 8 of them from puppies, so I do know what I'm talking about.
Please go away and harass somebody else with your nonsense. I am not the least bit interested in your opinion about my dog.

edited for typo.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 21/07/2025 00:26

lollypop42 · 20/07/2025 23:53

@CoubousAndTourmaletit is my business if she’s on a lead or not. she’s in no way aggressive and poses no risk. until she does. i’ve heard it all before and dogs bite every day, and their owners are usually very surprised.

And no, it really is NOT your business.

ruethewhirl · 21/07/2025 12:15

As ever with dog threads on MN, there seems to be a blinkered minority on here that haven’t even bothered weighing up the question properly before charging in with their ‘YABVVVVU! I wub doggies!’ mentality.

I love dogs myself and was a dog owner when younger and fitter, but for the life of me I’ll never understand the knee-jerk denial practised by some people over the fact that, yes, dogs can be dangerous.

hungryduck · 21/07/2025 12:24

ruethewhirl · 21/07/2025 12:15

As ever with dog threads on MN, there seems to be a blinkered minority on here that haven’t even bothered weighing up the question properly before charging in with their ‘YABVVVVU! I wub doggies!’ mentality.

I love dogs myself and was a dog owner when younger and fitter, but for the life of me I’ll never understand the knee-jerk denial practised by some people over the fact that, yes, dogs can be dangerous.

As ever with threads on MN, there seems to be a blinkered minority on here that haven't even bothered to read the OP properly.

Dogs happily walking through a park on lead are not dangerous.
A well trained dog off lead walking to heel and ignoring everyone and everything else in the park is not dangerous.

No one has denied dogs can be dangerous (as can toasters) but the dogs described by the OP were not dangerous.

TheGreatDownandOut · 21/07/2025 12:35

hungryduck · 21/07/2025 12:24

As ever with threads on MN, there seems to be a blinkered minority on here that haven't even bothered to read the OP properly.

Dogs happily walking through a park on lead are not dangerous.
A well trained dog off lead walking to heel and ignoring everyone and everything else in the park is not dangerous.

No one has denied dogs can be dangerous (as can toasters) but the dogs described by the OP were not dangerous.

I mean, this!

ruethewhirl · 21/07/2025 16:16

hungryduck · 21/07/2025 12:24

As ever with threads on MN, there seems to be a blinkered minority on here that haven't even bothered to read the OP properly.

Dogs happily walking through a park on lead are not dangerous.
A well trained dog off lead walking to heel and ignoring everyone and everything else in the park is not dangerous.

No one has denied dogs can be dangerous (as can toasters) but the dogs described by the OP were not dangerous.

I read the OP just fine, thanks.

No matter now much experience anyone has with dogs, they absolutely cannot predict with 100% certainty that any given dog (including their dog) will be harmless at all times, however well trained. Therefore you're merely guessing that the dogs OP mentioned were not dangerous - particularly given the information about the breeds.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 21/07/2025 16:56

ruethewhirl · 21/07/2025 12:15

As ever with dog threads on MN, there seems to be a blinkered minority on here that haven’t even bothered weighing up the question properly before charging in with their ‘YABVVVVU! I wub doggies!’ mentality.

I love dogs myself and was a dog owner when younger and fitter, but for the life of me I’ll never understand the knee-jerk denial practised by some people over the fact that, yes, dogs can be dangerous.

So if you've read the full thread you will have also seen that some of us (myself included) are being attacked for having dogs that, like the ones in the original post, are being walked on a lead. We have also been informed that all our dogs should be muzzled, not just reactive or aggressive ones, but all of them
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If you love dogs and have been a dog owner, as you claim, do you not think this is unreasonable?

By all means take issue with dogs that are out of control, but I don't think you have to be of an "I wub doggies mentality" (and I am most definitely not that) to see that the level of dog hate here is quite ridiculous.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread denying that dogs can be dangerous, but to state that all dogs are a threat, even those that are well controlled and being walked on leads, is not really a normal reaction. This level of fear is certainly not something I have ever encountered in real life whilst out and about with my own dogs.

crumpetswithcheeze · 21/07/2025 17:16

CoubousAndTourmalet · 21/07/2025 16:56

So if you've read the full thread you will have also seen that some of us (myself included) are being attacked for having dogs that, like the ones in the original post, are being walked on a lead. We have also been informed that all our dogs should be muzzled, not just reactive or aggressive ones, but all of them
.
If you love dogs and have been a dog owner, as you claim, do you not think this is unreasonable?

By all means take issue with dogs that are out of control, but I don't think you have to be of an "I wub doggies mentality" (and I am most definitely not that) to see that the level of dog hate here is quite ridiculous.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread denying that dogs can be dangerous, but to state that all dogs are a threat, even those that are well controlled and being walked on leads, is not really a normal reaction. This level of fear is certainly not something I have ever encountered in real life whilst out and about with my own dogs.

Christ, you’re like a dog with a bone. Don’t you have a dog to walk or something?

TheGreatDownandOut · 21/07/2025 17:23

crumpetswithcheeze · 21/07/2025 17:16

Christ, you’re like a dog with a bone. Don’t you have a dog to walk or something?

Seriously?! After the constant messages from the dog haters on here about wanting to beat them to death with sticks or poison them or ban them or whatever? The relentlessness has completely come from the dog hating side on this thread, by a mile…

Its been one long chorus of “waaaaah we don’t like your dogs because they’re big, chunter, moan”

CoubousAndTourmalet · 21/07/2025 17:24

crumpetswithcheeze · 21/07/2025 17:16

Christ, you’re like a dog with a bone. Don’t you have a dog to walk or something?

Hypocrite.

OonaStubbs · 21/07/2025 17:41

Nobody care about killing rats or mice with poison, and dogs kill a lot more people in this country than rats or mice.

hungryduck · 21/07/2025 18:02

OonaStubbs · 21/07/2025 17:41

Nobody care about killing rats or mice with poison, and dogs kill a lot more people in this country than rats or mice.

That's not at all true though.
7 dog related deaths in 2024.

A lot less than the rat and mouse caused deaths from:
Weil's disease
Lymphocytic Choriomeningitis Virus
Hantavirus
Rat-bite fever
And mouse carried Lyme disease (as in a direct result of mice in your area)

TheGreatDownandOut · 21/07/2025 18:47

@hungryduck do you have the stats on human deaths caused by miniature pigs or robots?

Onleemoi · 21/07/2025 18:55

TheGreatDownandOut · 21/07/2025 18:47

@hungryduck do you have the stats on human deaths caused by miniature pigs or robots?

🤣

Have you noticed the pro (big) dog people are sensible and measured and the anti are … not?

CoubousAndTourmalet · 21/07/2025 19:29

Onleemoi · 21/07/2025 18:55

🤣

Have you noticed the pro (big) dog people are sensible and measured and the anti are … not?

I'd say we've been polite, which is more than can be said for some.

Not only are they teaching their children and grandchildren to fear and hate dogs, but they are also giving the message that it's okay to be insulting towards strangers on a forum.

TheGreatDownandOut · 21/07/2025 20:06

Onleemoi · 21/07/2025 18:55

🤣

Have you noticed the pro (big) dog people are sensible and measured and the anti are … not?

Broadly. Although we did go a little weird last night with the whole bacon cooking, chess playing gothic robo-pig thing

hungryduck · 21/07/2025 20:21

TheGreatDownandOut · 21/07/2025 18:47

@hungryduck do you have the stats on human deaths caused by miniature pigs or robots?

I can confirm from ONS data, there have been 0 injuries or deaths caused by Gothic robotic pigs to date, officially making them the safest and most family-friendly pet in existence, closely followed by the trustee pet rock, which unfortunately is prone to stone-throwing related injuries and noise nuisance call-outs due to excessive loud rock music.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 21/07/2025 20:59

I'm done. Had insults to my dog on here last night, and the nasty comment about me tonight, I just don't think it's good.

Thanks for the laughs last night though.

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