Thread 6: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

Second article in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

Third item in the Observer
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

NB Please be careful when it comes to naming or implicating people who aren't in the public eye or have no connection to the story, especially where details are unclear or still emerging i.e. DON'T DO IT.

Keep on the path. No saltiness. Thank you.

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the three Observer articles before posting.

I think the shift in focus by the Observer today puts the spotlight firmly on him too though. It was a powerful article for that reason too

Tim hamming it up and turning on the tears claiming he had a couple of months to live shows he's hardly being reluctantly dragged along in Sally's wake

@Aspanielstolemysanity I haven’t read today’s as on holiday -all on keeping up on this page - but glad to hear it

One has to wonder if they even met him personally Has anyone seen this man in the flesh recently other than via a webcam for the One Show June 25 2025.

New phone which is desperate to misspell and be all US. Edit

I suspect they are in on it all together. I imagine she is the face of it because it would be difficult to keep the act up if he was

I think both of them are as bad as each other without compelling evidence to the contrary and as we know, compelling evidence is hardly their forte.

@notwavingbutdrowning1

So if I came to you with a book about how I met the tooth fairy and visited tooth fairy land and was very convincing in my delusion that it was real - it would be published as non fiction?

I agree

Not sure but I do wonder at scheme to make £ & give them ‘important status’. ‘Izzy Wyn’ ‘ it’s plot didn’t work or sell so s different book needed. The raffle failed, homespun Omaze idea? TSP was written, apparently, only for Moth. Does it read as such?

Quite - and it's not about making genuinely poorly people prove their illness as they're doubted, but more as a preventative act to avoid anyone who isn't entitled fraudulently claiming.

Yes, exactly. I also saw it as a significant shift and found it an extremely powerful article today.

I refer you to the Cottingley Fairies. Endorsed by Arthur Conan Doyle, who should surely have known better.

And extremely free and easy with other people's money 🤑.

Ah but yes all a fraud but one or two were real after all…Or so he apparently believed, from memory :)

Not sure I agree - I believe that she is the driving force behind the whole thing: embezzled £64K, forged cheques, came up with the whole project to walk the SWCP, wrote the books and appeared pretty much solo at all the book fairs and media slots.. In the very first para of TSP she says:

"I was under the stairs when I decided to walk. In that moment I hadn't carefully considered walking 630 miles with a rucksack on my back, I hadn't thought about how I could afford to do it, or that I'd be wild camping for nearly one hundred nights, or what I'd do afterwards. I hadn't told my partner of thirty-two years that he was coming with me."

They had more evidence than Tudor ghost man (even if faked!) though

but it was more a general point about not challenging authors over outrageous things

listening to the radio the other day they were talking about a few celebs who ended up doing autofiction rather than memoir because they wanted to jazz things up a bit. Eg Carrie fisher. That seems honest at least

i k ow I enjoyed me, Cheeta but I would have raised an eyebrow if it was in non fiction

TSP was written, apparently, only for Moth.

Because he was forgetting everything that had happened to them and Jason said in an interview that R&M cannot live in a house like boring normal people do now because if Moth stays in one place for too long his memory will go and walking is the only thing that stops it.

So do we have any idea if this is actually the case? Because admittedly I haven't read every single article but I haven't seen this mentioned by anyone who previously knew them.

I’m interested to know if moving around helps retain memory or if it is better to stay in one familiar place

Having now read the medical letters...

Had a middle aged, slightly overweight woman, gone to a GP with those symptoms... I can assure everyone here (and i think most realise this anyway), the first, second, third and 93rd potential DX would not be CBD/CBS...

They'd be fatigue, fat, take more exercise, Fibro/CFS/ME... depression.

In fact I think any patient listing those symptoms would have been told the same, prompting the question 'did they go in suggesting a DX' and also 'how long did it take to find a GP that would refer to a consultant who would buy in rather than suggest a more run of the mill and likely Dx'.

I have most of those symptoms btw - some aren't relevant as over the years ive damaged my spine and trapped nerves so much I can't walk, so gait isn't really relevant.

I have a vague decision that it is Fibro and Ehlers Danlos from the folks I see most regularly, however I also see someone every couple of years who thinks both are bollocks, and its something else.

Letters from the former would sound very much more confident of the DX than letters from the latter - though all agree I have multiple conditions and am distinctly disabled AND unwell, and the degree of disabled and unwell will fluctuate.

From conversations with medical friends - sometimes if a patient goes in with a suggested DX, if the outcome is 'treat the symptoms and monitor it' they may well just go along with that suggestion until/when something pops up to prove otherwise. Others feel that this approach is wrong as it shuts down the likelyhood of whatever it really is being spotted...

Staying in a place close to GPs and hospital appointments and for family is essential for someone who has a degenerative brain disease.

Yes, but until today the focus was entirely on her as the thief, liar, manipulator, etc etc due to her having stolen, embezzled £64k, being the named author of the books and her speaking in various events and so on.

Today's article in the Observer shifted from focussing exclusively on her to including Moth himself for the first time actually saying he only had 2 months to live. And that while their book states his brain scan that same time was clear of any pathology due to allegedly (by her in the book) having damage reversed from walking.

Authors usually are challenged over outrageous things, @Bruisername, but the point is, SW's story wouldn't have seemed outrageous. The health aspect is problematic, definitely. But doubtless she insisted, as she is doing now, that she was simply truthfully recounting their personal experience. If she's a grifter, as it seems, she was doubtless very convincing.

Tudor ghost man did have evidence! Messages written in perfectly authentic Tudor language, verified by academic experts, iirc. Better than a few cardboard fairies in a dodgy photo.

Different condition I know but when my aunt had dementia we were advised to keep her in her familiar environment for as long as safely possible due to all the possibility for memory triggers.

I've certainly never heard of walking being able to reverse memory loss but maybe Moth is the exception...

You'd think so wouldn't you!

Even on The Only Way is Essex it says "some scenes are made up for entertainment purposes."
TOWIE is more honest than you, Salt Path

A veritable Thomas Kempe for the computer age, if anyone remembers that :)? Possibly this chap did & there sparked an idea?