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Muslim women who dress modestly...

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TreatTreat · 12/07/2025 18:49

If you're at the beach and you want to paddle in the sea, are you able to roll up your trousers? Genuinely wondering as I saw a muslim family on the beach today having great fun. The kids were paddling in the sea. The women weren't but this question sprung in my head.

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TreatTreat · 12/07/2025 22:11

Morgenrot25 · 12/07/2025 22:10

Still here, pointing out the judgemental attitudes. HTH

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Except they aren't. It's you who is being judgemental.

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modestsometimes · 12/07/2025 22:12

MumWifeOther · 12/07/2025 22:07

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. First of all, the Shah was a puppet propped up by foreign powers. Ever heard of SAVAK? It was a brutal intelligence agency trained by the CIA and Mossad, used to silence dissent and push a Western agenda, including discouraging the hijab and Islamic clothing. I’m not here to give you a full history lesson, but here’s one fact: Iranian women are highly educated and make up around 60% of university students today. While many still dress modestly in public, more and more are choosing not to wear the hijab, reclaiming that choice for themselves.

And let’s be clear: Iran is not some backward country. It has a rich cultural, scientific, and intellectual legacy. Despite decades of sanctions and political isolation, its people, especially women, continue to push forward with strength, resilience, and vision.

Educate yourself, like the women in Iran.

@DreamTheMoors also if you search in youtube you will find many homemade videos of the streets and markets of Iran showing the majority of women wearing the same clothes as you, some with headscarves and some with hair flowing free.

DrowningInSyrup · 12/07/2025 22:12

Morgenrot25 · 12/07/2025 22:03

Always the ridiculous comparison. 🫣

Not ridiculous or a comparison. Please report back on how modest you felt.

PassingStranger · 12/07/2025 22:13

PollyCreo · 12/07/2025 19:11

I live in a hot country with a big Muslim population (Kurdish Syrians). The men dive into the sea with their children and have a great time, the wives stand on the beach covered from head to toe in black and look on anxiously.

Disgusting.

keeptalkinghappytalk · 12/07/2025 22:13

Saw this in the South of France recently...on a boiling hot beach, dads in shorts splashing around in the sea with kids while mums swathed from head to toe in black stayed silently on the sand, watching. What a lesson for those little girls...and boys. You either believe in gender equality or you don't. .

TheHazelCritic · 12/07/2025 22:13

DreamTheMoors · 12/07/2025 22:09

It was a photo, describing life in Iran in 1979 and 2022 — as I said, before and after the Ayatollah.
A photo.
A snapshot.
That’s what I saw.
I’m no expert. I never claimed to be.
And that fashion originated in the UK - in London, to be precise. In the 60s.
You have a lovely rest of your day.

An example of Iranian traditional clothing.
I know where the miniskirt came from, so do you not see how that photo was due to the western influence rather than a sign of "freedom"?
Is it not oppressive that women were forbidden from covering up? Seems like it only works one way

Muslim women who dress modestly...
Morgenrot25 · 12/07/2025 22:13

TreatTreat · 12/07/2025 22:11

Except they aren't. It's you who is being judgemental.

Nope.
I'm calling out judgment.
HTH

MumWifeOther · 12/07/2025 22:13

modestsometimes · 12/07/2025 22:12

@DreamTheMoors also if you search in youtube you will find many homemade videos of the streets and markets of Iran showing the majority of women wearing the same clothes as you, some with headscarves and some with hair flowing free.

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Yes. Really there’s no excuse for people to be so ill informed and gobble up war mongering propaganda in 2025 when there is so much raw footage that shows the real Iran.

BluntPlumHam · 12/07/2025 22:13

honestly I’m all for curiosity and dialogue but your thread has invited some deep rooted prejudices held by some posters. Some of it is light bashing and it’s tiring to have ignorant people make comments that a woman dressing a certain way ‘boils their piss’ and must be because she is oppressed.

ezi91 · 12/07/2025 22:14

Muslim here.

I roll up my leggings or pick up my dress lmao.
I have often tucked my dress into my bikini bottoms and flung myself around flag beach in fuerteventuraGrin

In Dubai and other Muslim countries I often wore like modest swimsuits, which is essentially for me anyways, like a ballet outfit! Tankini with a little flare.

In the UK at swimming lessons, normal swimsuit or tankini.

A lot of my Muslim friends will roll up or swan around in kaftans bikinis! It really depends on the individual

Morgenrot25 · 12/07/2025 22:14

DrowningInSyrup · 12/07/2025 22:12

Not ridiculous or a comparison. Please report back on how modest you felt.

It is a ridiculous* *comparison.

DreamTheMoors · 12/07/2025 22:15

MumWifeOther · 12/07/2025 22:07

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. First of all, the Shah was a puppet propped up by foreign powers. Ever heard of SAVAK? It was a brutal intelligence agency trained by the CIA and Mossad, used to silence dissent and push a Western agenda, including discouraging the hijab and Islamic clothing. I’m not here to give you a full history lesson, but here’s one fact: Iranian women are highly educated and make up around 60% of university students today. While many still dress modestly in public, more and more are choosing not to wear the hijab, reclaiming that choice for themselves.

And let’s be clear: Iran is not some backward country. It has a rich cultural, scientific, and intellectual legacy. Despite decades of sanctions and political isolation, its people, especially women, continue to push forward with strength, resilience, and vision.

Educate yourself, like the women in Iran.

Christ almighty - it was a photo..
Lighten up.

MumWifeOther · 12/07/2025 22:16

DreamTheMoors · 12/07/2025 22:15

Christ almighty - it was a photo..
Lighten up.

Then don’t use one photo as licence to come online and chat sh*t 🤫

soupyspoon · 12/07/2025 22:16

modestsometimes · 12/07/2025 22:09

If you search for videos on youtube of Iran day to day, basically people walking around streets and markets filming, there are plenty showing women with hair flowing free and not dressed in religious clothing.

Yes I have worked with many older women from the Iranian diaspora and heard lots about their lives pre revolution. Heartbreaking what they lost.

And I was very curious about it of course or nosy whichever way some people want to put it

Crazyworldmum · 12/07/2025 22:16

We have just been in Cyprus and went to the local water park where Muslim men and kids played in the pool all day with common swim wear and the mums had to simply wait outside the pool covered head to toe in black .
I think curiosity is very normal , my 8 year old girl had a hard time accepting anyone would choose to be that uncomfortable despite us explaining it was a choice . She is still adamant nobody would do it by real choice . She is quite the mini feminist so very stubborn.

EternalLodga · 12/07/2025 22:17

What's the actual reasoning for women having to cover up but not men

MathNotMathing · 12/07/2025 22:18

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MumWifeOther · 12/07/2025 22:18

EternalLodga · 12/07/2025 22:17

What's the actual reasoning for women having to cover up but not men

Because they want to

GabriellaMontez · 12/07/2025 22:18

Morgenrot25 · 12/07/2025 22:14

It is a ridiculous* *comparison.

Very judgy, arent you...

Dweetfidilove · 12/07/2025 22:18

Sherr33 · 12/07/2025 22:00

Im a Muslim female. 35 years old. As a child I grew up to love my religion. Honestly. I used to pray at such a young age. I chose to go to boarding school at age 11. And I wore full abaya/niqaab. Post 9/11 I did get some pretty shitty comments but it didnt matter to me. Plus I didnt really understand why at that age people said what they said. Anyways I wore the full works till the age of 19 and then I just wore normal clothes but with my scarf on. I remember my dad being quite shocked when I did this. Haha. But again it was my choice. Fast forward to the age of 23 where even though I wore a scarf here in the UK when we went on our family holiday and it was scorching hot I was in a tankini and shorts so I could jump in and out the pool without being uncomfortable in my wet clothes. Then fast forward age 28 when I stopped wearing my scarf altogether. I had flare up psoriasis and just need my scalp to breathe. For a year or two it was on and off with my scarf. And then I just stopped. Unless im going into a mosque or to the graveyard. I am mindful of how I dress more in the uk than abroad. I feel so awkwardly exposed here. It's just weird. Even in my t shirt and jeans. But abroad im in my bikini and honestly so comfortable. My point is as a Muslim woman I chose. I know my husband would much prefer if I wore less revealing clothes but no I like to wear them. My choice. I know what my religion says but im at this point in my life where what I do is between me and God. Im not harming anyone, I havent killed or robbed or committed a heinous crime. And I hope i continue to enjoy my life and become a better Muslim. Think this went off topic here hahahahha. Gosh I just wish people wouldn't be so ignorant.

You sound very much like the Muslim women I'm friends with. They vary from one dress code to another, living life freely and enjoying themselves along the way.

EternalLodga · 12/07/2025 22:19

MumWifeOther · 12/07/2025 22:18

Because they want to

I said having to. Not choosing to

Ddakji · 12/07/2025 22:19

@TheHazelCritic She wasn’t brown. She was black.

And I’m aware young girls aren’t required to cover. Doesn’t mean their parents don’t make them. There was a girl at DD’s primary who was covering her hair in Year 1. I felt sick the first time I saw that. A little girl, no more than 6, being told showing her hair is immodest. Her mother wore a face veil, something that I for one don’t even want to see in a primary school but there you are.

(I would assume that the country this girl comes from is this country. Or do you assume that all non-white or Muslim people were born somewhere else?)

Morgenrot25 · 12/07/2025 22:19

soupyspoon · 12/07/2025 22:16

Yes I have worked with many older women from the Iranian diaspora and heard lots about their lives pre revolution. Heartbreaking what they lost.

And I was very curious about it of course or nosy whichever way some people want to put it

Speaking about Iranian history, particularly that of women and girls, in an educated and open way is actually very important. That would have been much less goady than the actual question in this thread.

ILoveBrum · 12/07/2025 22:19

I completely agree with your 8 year old @Crazyworldmum - even when people think they’re making that choice, I don’t believe it as it’s part of the indoctrination. All very sad & horrendous in today’s world given the situation in Iraq, Iran & Afghanistan etc. So sad.

MathNotMathing · 12/07/2025 22:20

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