To ask what you think about Starmer’s plan to stop the boats?

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I cannot see how his ‘one in one out’ plan is going to help. I also can’t understand why France is cooperating with us. What’s the incentive?

If you don’t agree with this plan, what would your answer be?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg6x4g6gg6t

We send them somewhere like Rwanda. A system which other countries are looking at using.

Hang on...what was 2/3 years ago? Are you saying concern over immigration is a new thing?? It's been a worry since 1999.

I’m just happy the two countries are acting cordially towards each other and are at least attempting to work together to address the problem. It’s better than the alternative but there still needs to be massive work done to stop them from wanting to come over illegally in the first place, which is a British problem.

Somewhere like Rwanda?? who agreed to take just 5000 over 5 years.

At the risk of going around in circles, which countries want to import 10s of 1000s of failed asylum seekers, many of which, according to some, are rapists, child abusers.... and other such criminals.

Australia has a policy where if you try and enter by boat you immediately invalidate any claim .

Which is exactly the same as the new plan.

Yes actually..provided they are willing to enter employment, education or training and do not commit a crime worthy of jail time. At that point I am happy for them to be deported to country of origin regardless of its current status. I absolutely believe that country of birth is simply luck of the draw and a huge number of people in the UK are just as, if not more, undeserving of the incredible level of government support we get in so many areas of life. Knuckle draggers waving St George flags around on social media and bellowing in the streets about how "they'd not like us to build a mosque in Mecca would they?" are of far less use to the country than an educated professional fleeing a warzone, or a young family desperately wanting a better future for their kids.

72% acceptance in the UK compared to 25% in France. No wonder they chance it.

It's not going to work as these people are determined to come whatever the sanctions.

Genuine asylum seekers should be given the right to come here to safety. Economic migrants should be turned back.

The issue is creating a system which quickly and effectively differentiates between the two groups and that is not happening at the moment.

Why do we have to keep them just because the French shove them over here?? And the EU is unable to police it's own borders?

Kent county council is asking for more money to support the unaccompanied children. They argue the cost is going to bankrupt the council.

come and live in Dover or Maidstone and see what it’s like to have gangs of young men hanging around often with different values and opinion of women and girls.

something has to be done. I can’t see this latest plan changing anything.

Do you pay tax? Are your children able to buy a house or even rent one easily? Do you use public services? Do you feel safe walking at night in certain cities at the moment?

Yes, tiny number. Fewer than 9% of migrants entered the U.K. on small boats in 2024. Even if the boats were stopped, net migration would still have been around 400,000. Worth noting too, the vast majority of asylum claims are granted, and refugees are a minority of the net migration figures. I say again, the U.K. has a legal duty to look after refugees, as does every other Country, many of whom are taking way more than we do.

I have lived in areas which are far more diverse, I much prefer it.

Out of interest should we have housed Ukrainian refugees?

I'm asking what you would do with them, an actual solution, not your indignation.

For a pp - the UK asylum success claim rate is 48% as of March 2025, was 76% the previous year - i hope you wont say thats down to Sunak.....

Yes to all of the above. And someone mentioned Net contributors...most UK citizens are not net contributors. They just happened to be born here.

I don’t feel safe at night in most places. That hasn’t changed in 30 years. What should we do with the U.K. born men who are the reason for this?

Well first of all not give up if an illegal has ripped up his passport and says he can't remember where he came from (France. So he's not an asylum seeker). We can't just fill up our country with the contents of other continents. So the system in Australia is the one to follow.

The problem is what I suspect might happen is Keir Starmer reduces the backlog of asylum seekers (ahem) by simply granting them all leave to stay. And then disperses them round the UK. As is happening now.

Plymouth is pretty much all white, hardly any migrants.

Cannot easily rent or buy, public services down the toilet, partners son recent beaten up, unprovoked, by a gang of white british teenagers - the Police despite cctv footage and witnesses, did nothing at all, no further action.

UKs problems are not down to just migrants.

Starmer is like a wet lettuce.

He's letting Macron walk all over him, no wonder Macron looks so happy in the press photos. This latest agreement is a farce. Is this what we're getting for the millions we give to France. The migrants we return will just get on another boat and come back over.

I'm beginning to think that Starmer wants Farage to win the next General Election.

48% initially. Of those denied, most are granted on appeal.

You don’t get asylum just by ripping up your passport. 🤦🏻‍♀️

That's unlikely to be most other people's experience. There's clearly an increase in sexual violence.and more women feeling unsafe.

What about all the other issues I mentioned? Are you a tax payer? Are your children wanting to move out one day into their own home? Do you use public services?.

@EggnogNoggin EggnogNoggin

The point isn't what Reform are going to do. The point is that unlike the Greens or Libs, they are the only party saying they'd take a hard line and haven't had a go yet.

I've seen their manifesto and their plans aren't feasible or realistic. Their manifesto is uncosted and calculated to cost 100bn. It's pie in the sky.

No. Clearly. But it means that the authorities don't know which country to return you to.

It's a common method.

Again, where would you send failed migrants?

The UK doesn't have a handy Nauru next door.

BTW i don't disagree that the situation cannot be allowed to continue, its just that so called easy solutions do not exist in the real world.

A pp bangs on about Australia but she can never actually say where migrants should be sent..... neither can Reform... all hot air and sound bites.

Could you link to the evidence showing that asylum seekers have increased sexual violence making women feel unsafe please?

https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/61478/a-fraction-of-migrant-arrivals-to-the-uk-come-on-small-boats
This sets out the numbers for you.
450k work visas, 440k student visas, 37k arrivals by small boat.

This constant focus on small boats as a threat to us is just plain nonsense. It is a real problem because the gangs of smugglers are terrifying, and the crossing is dangerous, but these migrants are unlikely to be the reason you can’t get a doctor’s appointment or your first choice of school.

I think this plan might be good, if we return say 50 arrivals from the small boats, but accept 50 who have gone through immigration process on the French side. Also more cooperation with Macron and France is positive. .