To ask what you think about Starmer’s plan to stop the boats?

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I cannot see how his ‘one in one out’ plan is going to help. I also can’t understand why France is cooperating with us. What’s the incentive?

If you don’t agree with this plan, what would your answer be?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg6x4g6gg6t

Yes that's no good is it really. 70% of illegals mostly young men from countries we have recently been at war with who may not have our best interests at heart being granted asylum. Despite them coming from France. Strange state of affairs. I suppose these days we Must Not Question what we see in front of us.

Again, why are you over exaggerating?

Being concerned about immigration doesn't make someone a racist, are you one??

It suits the opposition to have a very difficult issue for Labour to run and run as it detracts from their own troubles.

https://news.sky.com/story/why-do-so-many-from-around-the-world-try-to-cross-the-english-channel-13394345

Doesn’t this apply to smash the gangs too? Highlighting an issue and suggesting something that hasn’t worked.

I was slightly joking. But that is the country they come from?

What do you see in front of you?

It is not illegal to seek asylum.

Buy it's a huge issue. It's first or second in the list of voter concerns. It's been a problem for years. It was a factor in Brexit. It can't simply be dismissed by people as a distraction from the problems political parties are facing, surely?? If that happens then Reform are in.

King Canute meets The Emporer's New Clothes.

Nobody arriving on a boat illegally should ever get citizenship for a start.

If only the UK practiced this some 200 years ago, the world would look very different now! Maybe people wouldn't need to seek asylum had their countries been left alone to start with. Many wars around the world are a direct consequence of Great Britain' era of colonisation.

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This was already a distraction at the time of the Brexit referendum. I remember the infamous poster with the line of refugees stretching to the horizon. It was a dishonest emotional manipulation of people's natural fear of invasion. It's dishonest and destructive because it diverts attention from the real structural issues that affect our standard of living.

ALL immigration is important to voters right now but it suits some parties to focus on boats, rather than our reliance on foreign workers & students, which make up many times the number crossing the channel.

Yes it is - if I am an oppressed woman in Afghanistan and have relatives in Manchester, and speak English but not Italian or French, it makes every sense to want to come to the UK.

But do you have a right to come to the UK. Or a right to safety.

Yes

Well I agree with you there. I'd like the focus to be on overall numbers much more than it is at the moment.

Not necessarily, but I do, under international law, have every right to claim it. Then it's for the Home Office to assess the legitimacy of my claim.

Well that needs to be changed. Just because you have some "relatives " in the UK shouldn't mean you have the right to specifically come here rather than stay in France where it is safe.

TBF I'm not sure you are right.

He's a deluded, gaslighting wanker.

Seeking asylum is a human right and every person in the world has the right to apply for asylum if they are fleeing conflict or persecution. They must not be expelled or returned to situations where their lives or freedoms would be in danger. This is the principle of non-refoulement which is enshrined in the 1951 Refugee Convention. It is also part of human rights law and customary international law and must be guaranteed by all countries.

I agree. Honestly I have a lot of sympathy as these people are coming from terrible conditions but we need to have some control over who is coming into our country. You can’t just enter a country illegally and then be free to roam the streets.

Yes that's fair. As long as you come using the legal routes. And then the UK decides whether to let you in or not.

I’m clarifying that stories of free cars and phones and clothes whilst living it up in luxury accommodation and getting more money than a pensioner are entirely inaccurate.

There will undoubtedly be a variance in accommodation some will be adequate, some won’t be. The ones I’ve seen first hand have been slightly above squalid. But when we see reports of council or care accommodation which is not at all fit for purpose or free meal provision in hospitals, schools or care homes which are clearly sub standard, we don’t tell British recipients they should be grateful they are getting anything at all. We have campaigns to improve things, celebs get involved, because we believe that even those relying on the government for help deserve dignity and respect. You might want to ask yourself why you don’t believe that applies to those who are fleeing persecution?

Check the 1951 Refugee Convention.

It applies to you too if you ever were in need to flee your country

I ask yet again. What are the legal routes for someone from Syria to apply for asylum. Strange @Quirkswork you don’t seem able to answer that one.