Worried about Dd being ginger in the uk

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Redhead, Golden haired…

We are moving back to the uk next year. Dd was born in the country we’re currently living in. The majority of people are dark haired, brown eyes and tanned skin.
Dd is reddy gold hair, blue eyes and fair skin. She gets attention everywhere she goes about her hair and eyes, people compliment her a lot and are very gushing about her looks, it’s lovely

My impression is that this is very different in the uk and cruelly this is used as an insult almost, is this still the case? The thought of it is heartbreaking

You just really don’t get it and I probably can not make you see that it really is not the same.

What a load of shit! I've been ginger for 56 years, occasional jokey name calling at high school but never any malice.
The UK is not the cesspit people would have you believe

And yet I am 47 and have heard a lot of malicious comments - including a drink man in his 50s approaching me in my school uniform aged about twelve and shouting repeatedly that “your mother ought to have aborted you, you little ginger cunt”.

I know a lot of women who claim to have never experienced catcalling, and yet we all know it happens.

Do you really want me to type a racist/homophobic/ableist insult to prove a point for you.
Those men insulted you because they are horrible twats.
If you didn't have red hair and they wanted to insult you they will have found something else about you to use.

I think you are missing the point here. They insulted her because she was ginger. If she wasn’t ginger, they might have shouted misogynist or homophobic abuse instead, but that would still be misogyny or homophobia.

If she was black and they shouted racist abuse, would you really be arguing that it wasn’t really racist because if she wasn’t black they would just have shouted something else?

DS2 is ginger. He's 15 and has not had any bullying about his hair. It's a beautiful colour. It's not super rare either. He had 4 gingers in his primary class of 28 and there is 3 in his secondary form of 24.

@LemondrizzleShark I'm not trying to miss any point. I'm just trying to say that unfortunately certain people will always find something to use as an insult.
The OP was worried her red haired daughter might get picked on/insulted because of her hair.
My point is yes she could...but she might not and if she didn't have red hair there is still times she may or may not be insulted.
I hope that makes some sense.

Again you are missing the point . If someone shouted at a black girl who was sitting with her friends something disgusting because they thought they could would you just say “ah if they weren’t calling you that they would be calling you something else” ? I doubt you would . If your black friend said she was pregnant and a couple around the table said ah what if it has Afro hair or black skin to her in. Would you just say ah ignore them, it’s only banter . I doubt you would .
I am not the person who was shouted at by the group of boys. I have had a few rude comments over the years . Very few direct ones . The ones I really don’t like are the ones that are supposed to be a complement such as you are so pretty for a ginger or people slating ginger hair in front of me and telling me they are not talking about my kind of ginger. If I had have been the women receiving the abuse those boys would have fucking known about it !!!

@Dideon I admit I don't get your point.
Sorry but I don't.
I leave it at that if that's okay because I am more confused than ever.
Have a good evening 🙂

….and yet you are able to understand the concepts of racist, homophonic, ableist.

I do completely understand that sometimes those with red hair have received abuse and discrimination.
I never said they didn't.
I do believe it's less of a "thing" among today's children but I am fully aware that red haired people sometimes get abuse.
I think you misunderstood my point and I misunderstood yours.
Let's leave it there 🙂

I hear you but you could (but should never) dye your hair: your husband can’t dye his skin

The most stunning woman in my gym is ginger and wears beautifully coloured complementary clothes that make her very memorable

Wow, really, you know that was part of the bullying I experienced, people thinking they were being kind in thier minds I’m sure, telling me I should just dye my hair to stop the bullying, why should anyone have to change their natural appearance to make it more palatable to bullies?

It’s akin to the skin whitening industry in Asian and African countries . People trying to make themselves whiter to be deemed more acceptable.

This. You need to teach your kid to ignore the comments. I was small and teased. You just have to develop a thick skin. You are making a big deal over it and in danger of giving her a complex.

I said “I hear you but you could (but should never) dye your hair: your husband can’t dye his skin”. “Could” meaning you had a choice of whether or not to dye your hair. I was far from suggesting that you should have to avoid being bullied.

FYI I adore red hair and for years I’ve complimented children over 5 on it, to the obvious pleasure of their parents. My husband had auburn hair

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I’m a ginger, i get ribbed all the time by my family, it’s cos unfortunately i’m ginger. If i do something wrong, it’s cos i’m ginger, but they’re all dumb and blonde so
makes no difference to me. 😆

I’m mixed race. I have seen ginger bullying. While racism has a systemic, institutional, historic aspect gingerism does not - abuse and harassment on the basis of inherent colouring is offensive whoever is on the receiving end.

Gingerism has a long history in the UK. In medieval times it was associated with witchcraft and the devil. Judas Iscariot is usually depicted as a redhead, as is Cain, who killed his brother Able.

Ooh! This guy has awesome hair!! Good energy! I reckon someone would think twice before messing with him!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI1d2O-MBTM/?igsh=MWJiZDdkd3prZDR2MQ==

My teenage DD has two redhead friends and they were never targeted for it. Yes there might be odd comment from idiots who can't come up with nothing else to say but no more than other people experience. In my time i was teased for wearing glasses; my DD wears them too, she has braces, she's taller than everyone else and lanky, often spotty (teenage acne) and proper nerd - never been bullied. I'm not saying kids arent bullied because I know they are but there's no one characteristic that will for sure make them a victim.

This hyperfocus on her looks is going to do her no good in the long run. I myself have brown hair, brown eyes, fair skin. Nothing 'special' in terms of colouring. My little boy has green-blue eyes and sandy blond hair even though I don't and his dad is Italian so very dark features and olive skin. His Italian family all fawn over his colouring. It actually makes me feel very icky considering they did/do the same thing to my partners ex with green eyes and blonde hair. I think a healthy dose of reality is needed. All this colourism and favouring one look over another is totally unhealthy.

My daughter is a redhead, no bullying because of it. I'm in the UK, when we are out and about people say how beautiful the colour of her hair is, not to her but to me (she is usually away with the fairies). No kids in her school have ever been mean about her hair or pale skin).