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AIBU to be disappointed about this?

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mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 20:30

Later this week, on my birthday, we're doing a long train journey to visit friends for a few days. Whenever we do these long journeys, we always book them over lunchtime, and do a "train picnic" of nice food e.g afternoon tea style and share some prosecco or anti pasta style and share some red. It means that our trip starts when we get in the train, and the journey flies by.

DH booked the train tickets, and he just accepted the default seating rather than selecting seats, and as a consequence we're stuck on a middle and aisle seat with no table. So lunch is pretty much going to be a sarnie and a bottle of water as there's no table space, the journey is going to be long, boring and uncomfortable, squashed in next to a stranger.

We've tried to change seats now, but as it's a couple of days away, there's no availability of seats at a table, and no availability in first class either.

I feel like instead of my birthday starting at 11.30am once we're on the train, it's not going to start until 3pm when we arrive, and the journey is something to be tolerated, rather than something to be enjoyed.

I don't want to be spoilt, and I get that I'm going to have a lovely time with my friends, but I'm really grumpy and disappointed. I think it's mostly because DH has form for this kind of stuff, always taking the quick, easy way, and never checking anything.

AIBU to be pissed off? And does anyone have any ideas of how to make the journey more fun, or special/treat lunch ideas possible to eat when sitting in a cramped middle seat?

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newhouseplans · 06/07/2025 23:53

Alltheyellowbirds · 06/07/2025 23:45

It is different OP, honestly. It’s the faffing about with multiple containers, spreading them all out, no doubt spending quite a long time eating it, picking a bit of this and a bit of that, now I’ll have a glass of wine, now I’ll have some olives, ooh, could you pass me the salami? Leaning across the table to reach stuff, dripping bits of oil and crumbs everywhere. And it’s the fact that you’re sat opposite each other rather than side by side, and conducting a conversation across the table for the duration of the journey which is awkward for the two other people sharing it with you.

Can you really not see how this is more disruptive to sit next to than someone who eats a quick sandwich then spends the rest of the journey reading a book?

I get that going on a train is a big deal for you and you want to make it all as fun as possible, but most of the people there are honestly just trying to get from A to B with as little hassle as possible.

WTF?

I catch trains regularly. Sometimes I eat something, sometimes I sit next to people who are eating or - shock horror - talking to each other.

It's never crossed my mind to be annoyed by people doing normal human things like eating or talking.

Sometimes, I even end up talking to the people I'm sitting next to, if they're chatty. Had some lovely conversations on trains. Only once has a conversation upset me - an abusive man talking shit to his girlfriend on the phone. I couldn't tolerate listening to him bully her, and as she was on a phone not in the carriage, nothing I could do for her. So I got up and moved. Simple.

MasterBeth · 06/07/2025 23:54

SylviaPsyoplath · 06/07/2025 23:51

Then just eat a cheese and ham sandwich and stop being so weird about train picnics (which isn't s thing for anyone but you)

Are you the train police?

Bestfootforward11 · 06/07/2025 23:54

This seems to me to be a storm in a teacup kind of thing. Maybe not ideal, but you’ll survive. Don’t let this overshadow everything. Happy birthday when it comes! X

mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 23:54

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:48

Everyone makes eating noises, despite you denying this several times.
A picnic prolongs the eating time, thus prolongs the noise, when compared to a sandwich or something. I don't believe you actually can't grasp this.

I can't believe that you can't grasp that trying to police what other people eat on a train is selfish and controlling.

If you don't want to eat on a train, then don't. But I do want to (and need to) eat lunch, so I will. If you can't cope with people eating food on a train where eating is allowed (and indeed which serves hot food on board), then that's a you problem for you to solve. You don't get to dictate what others do. Your preferences do not trump other people's. Are you always this selfish?

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steff13 · 06/07/2025 23:54

TeenLifeMum · 06/07/2025 21:39

Those with sensitive noses; be grateful you weren’t on the Weymouth train yesterday when we had to move carriage because a man vomited all the way up the aisle as we sat with our cocktails 🤢 I’d rather smell antipasti.

That would be me if I were sitting near someone who was eating sushi.

newhouseplans · 06/07/2025 23:56

SylviaPsyoplath · 06/07/2025 23:51

Then just eat a cheese and ham sandwich and stop being so weird about train picnics (which isn't s thing for anyone but you)

Yeah... no.

My DC and I love a train picnic on a long journey. 😁

Why are you being so weird about sandwiches?!

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:56

Masmavi · 06/07/2025 23:52

Until coming on to Mumsnet I had no idea how many adults schedule every aspect of their birthdays and get upset when it doesnt get executed like a military plan.. Enjoy the train ride, chat to your husband, let it go. Be happy to be here on another birthday. Flexibility is the key to happiness.

Being on MN has revealed to me how some people set themselves up.for disappointment, due to ridiculously specific and/or high expectations.
If @mrsm43s needs to eat/take meds she can - just have the food on a smaller scale on her little table. More private. Less annoying for everyone else. No need to make partner feel 'gutted'. Life doesn't have to be made harder at every stage.

mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 23:57

SylviaPsyoplath · 06/07/2025 23:51

Then just eat a cheese and ham sandwich and stop being so weird about train picnics (which isn't s thing for anyone but you)

I don't want to. I'd prefer to eat my meat cheese and bread separately. Do you really think you have the right to dictate what other people eat for lunch. How utterly controlling and selfish!

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bittertwisted · 06/07/2025 23:58

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:48

Everyone makes eating noises, despite you denying this several times.
A picnic prolongs the eating time, thus prolongs the noise, when compared to a sandwich or something. I don't believe you actually can't grasp this.

What is wrong with eating noises? People are proper bonkers on here😂 I would get chatting to OP, hope for a vino and a fig.
I cannot understand the depressing need to look down on any pleasure

eating noises, we all eat

TeddyOatmeal · 06/07/2025 23:59

Travelled the East Coast Mainline many times, would personally not book a table unless there are 4 of us as I’m unsociable. (Loved it in Covid when nobody was allowed to sit next to you unless travelling together 😊) Whatever the other 2 people on the table are doing can be annoying with their laptops, feet, elbows, food of any kind, phone calls, bags so not sure why do many people are against your picnic. I’ve always found the non table seats fine, it’s like being on a plane except no turbulence, no recliners in front or third person on your row 😊

Drowninginconfusion · 06/07/2025 23:59

TeenLifeMum · 06/07/2025 21:10

So we can’t say nice food without it being “pretentious”? Mn is so weird.

Honestly! Today I’ve seen a woman slagged off for eating a sausage roll and a flake - very ‘unpretentious’ and now this poor woman is slagged off for her food being more expensive, literally can’t win on Mumsnet apparently.

Stef3 · 07/07/2025 00:00

I think it’s far more acceptable to eat on a table seat if the four sitting there are in the same party. I would probably move to a non table seat if allocated one if a couple set up a buffet as described next to me. Ime, people who do a train buffet tend to talk with food in their mouth which is really unpleasant to listen to. Not saying you would OP!

MasterBeth · 07/07/2025 00:00

bittertwisted · 06/07/2025 23:58

What is wrong with eating noises? People are proper bonkers on here😂 I would get chatting to OP, hope for a vino and a fig.
I cannot understand the depressing need to look down on any pleasure

eating noises, we all eat

Forget eating noises - at least two people on this thread are concerned about the OP "leaning over"!

Genuinely have no idea what they mean or how it would affect their journey one bit. Leaning over!!

Morgenrot25 · 07/07/2025 00:02

mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 23:54

I can't believe that you can't grasp that trying to police what other people eat on a train is selfish and controlling.

If you don't want to eat on a train, then don't. But I do want to (and need to) eat lunch, so I will. If you can't cope with people eating food on a train where eating is allowed (and indeed which serves hot food on board), then that's a you problem for you to solve. You don't get to dictate what others do. Your preferences do not trump other people's. Are you always this selfish?

I've not said I don't eat on the train.
I've not said you cannot eat on the train.
I have simply pointed out, along with others:

  • having a table picnic is more of an imposition on others than simply eating a sandwich
  • sitting side by side is more private for you and preferable for others
  • it's a complete overreaction regarding the chair/table set up, and your poor partner should not be made to feel bad. You still have a table!
Morgenrot25 · 07/07/2025 00:03

Drowninginconfusion · 06/07/2025 23:59

Honestly! Today I’ve seen a woman slagged off for eating a sausage roll and a flake - very ‘unpretentious’ and now this poor woman is slagged off for her food being more expensive, literally can’t win on Mumsnet apparently.

Have you not read the actual words then? 🫣

bittertwisted · 07/07/2025 00:03

MasterBeth · 07/07/2025 00:00

Forget eating noises - at least two people on this thread are concerned about the OP "leaning over"!

Genuinely have no idea what they mean or how it would affect their journey one bit. Leaning over!!

Leaning over for a fig or bit of Parma ham. I really have no idea how people get through the day. Somebody having their phone blasting out YouTube = annoying
a couple enjoying a lovely train picnic to celebrate = really uplifting and I would be really happy for them

and they can use a wipe, I don’t care

newhouseplans · 07/07/2025 00:03

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:48

Everyone makes eating noises, despite you denying this several times.
A picnic prolongs the eating time, thus prolongs the noise, when compared to a sandwich or something. I don't believe you actually can't grasp this.

Ah, I see, you have misophonia? (Sensitivity to certain sounds)

Feeling so repulsed by people eating that you would tell them to eat something functional rather than something they enjoy in order that they eat quietly is really not normal. Or, as the OP says, it's a you problem i.e. something you need to deal with e.g. by moving seat or maybe understanding and seeking treatment for your misophonia / rigid thinking on this.

Alltheyellowbirds · 07/07/2025 00:03

newhouseplans · 06/07/2025 23:53

WTF?

I catch trains regularly. Sometimes I eat something, sometimes I sit next to people who are eating or - shock horror - talking to each other.

It's never crossed my mind to be annoyed by people doing normal human things like eating or talking.

Sometimes, I even end up talking to the people I'm sitting next to, if they're chatty. Had some lovely conversations on trains. Only once has a conversation upset me - an abusive man talking shit to his girlfriend on the phone. I couldn't tolerate listening to him bully her, and as she was on a phone not in the carriage, nothing I could do for her. So I got up and moved. Simple.

No need for the WTF, was just trying to break down why an elaborate picnic is not the exactly the same thing as eating a sandwich, because OP seems intent on refusing to understand what people have been trying to say.

It’s great for you that you arent bothered by this kind of stuff, but other people are.

And you can’t always just move seats if the person next to you is annoying, particularly in the train OP is talking about. It often has no empty seats at all, and people having to stand in the aisles.

Morgenrot25 · 07/07/2025 00:04

bittertwisted · 06/07/2025 23:58

What is wrong with eating noises? People are proper bonkers on here😂 I would get chatting to OP, hope for a vino and a fig.
I cannot understand the depressing need to look down on any pleasure

eating noises, we all eat

Again, I was saying this in response to OP who claimed she didn't make eating noises. I was pointing out that everyone does. 😉

Drowninginconfusion · 07/07/2025 00:04

Morgenrot25 · 07/07/2025 00:03

Have you not read the actual words then? 🫣

What?

mrsm43s · 07/07/2025 00:05

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:56

Being on MN has revealed to me how some people set themselves up.for disappointment, due to ridiculously specific and/or high expectations.
If @mrsm43s needs to eat/take meds she can - just have the food on a smaller scale on her little table. More private. Less annoying for everyone else. No need to make partner feel 'gutted'. Life doesn't have to be made harder at every stage.

You're missing the point of the thread tbh. It's about DH being careless and slapdash and not booking what he'd agreed he would book. The fact that he couldn't take a little care over a booking for my birthday. In itself it's not a big deal, but he has a history of carelessness or half done jobs, and it makes me sad that he can't put a bit more effort in.

It's definitely not been done on purpose. And not been done maliciously. But surely when you're booking something for someone's birthday, you take 2 minutes to double check you've got the details right.

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Morgenrot25 · 07/07/2025 00:07

MasterBeth · 07/07/2025 00:00

Forget eating noises - at least two people on this thread are concerned about the OP "leaning over"!

Genuinely have no idea what they mean or how it would affect their journey one bit. Leaning over!!

Leaning over can often mean elbows end up jutting out or people lean slightly diagonally over the others at the table - that's annoying if someone is trying to work or read or just not be imposed upon. There's less of that with solo food such as sandwiches.

Morgenrot25 · 07/07/2025 00:08

newhouseplans · 07/07/2025 00:03

Ah, I see, you have misophonia? (Sensitivity to certain sounds)

Feeling so repulsed by people eating that you would tell them to eat something functional rather than something they enjoy in order that they eat quietly is really not normal. Or, as the OP says, it's a you problem i.e. something you need to deal with e.g. by moving seat or maybe understanding and seeking treatment for your misophonia / rigid thinking on this.

All I said was that everyone made eating noises, when OP claimed she doesn't.

Morgenrot25 · 07/07/2025 00:10

mrsm43s · 07/07/2025 00:05

You're missing the point of the thread tbh. It's about DH being careless and slapdash and not booking what he'd agreed he would book. The fact that he couldn't take a little care over a booking for my birthday. In itself it's not a big deal, but he has a history of carelessness or half done jobs, and it makes me sad that he can't put a bit more effort in.

It's definitely not been done on purpose. And not been done maliciously. But surely when you're booking something for someone's birthday, you take 2 minutes to double check you've got the details right.

He wasn't 'careless and slapdash' by most people's standards though, that's the point.

Teanbiscuits33 · 07/07/2025 00:10

If it really matters to you, you could offer to pay for two people sitting at the table to move seats to the ones you have booked? Worth a try?

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