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AIBU to be disappointed about this?

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mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 20:30

Later this week, on my birthday, we're doing a long train journey to visit friends for a few days. Whenever we do these long journeys, we always book them over lunchtime, and do a "train picnic" of nice food e.g afternoon tea style and share some prosecco or anti pasta style and share some red. It means that our trip starts when we get in the train, and the journey flies by.

DH booked the train tickets, and he just accepted the default seating rather than selecting seats, and as a consequence we're stuck on a middle and aisle seat with no table. So lunch is pretty much going to be a sarnie and a bottle of water as there's no table space, the journey is going to be long, boring and uncomfortable, squashed in next to a stranger.

We've tried to change seats now, but as it's a couple of days away, there's no availability of seats at a table, and no availability in first class either.

I feel like instead of my birthday starting at 11.30am once we're on the train, it's not going to start until 3pm when we arrive, and the journey is something to be tolerated, rather than something to be enjoyed.

I don't want to be spoilt, and I get that I'm going to have a lovely time with my friends, but I'm really grumpy and disappointed. I think it's mostly because DH has form for this kind of stuff, always taking the quick, easy way, and never checking anything.

AIBU to be pissed off? And does anyone have any ideas of how to make the journey more fun, or special/treat lunch ideas possible to eat when sitting in a cramped middle seat?

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Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:03

Fridaynightfish · 06/07/2025 23:02

And your picnics sound lovely @mrsm43s I wouldn’t mind that at all. In fact I would be jealous!

Why would you be jealous:?
Unless you're on a very tight budget, you'd just purchase something like that too surely, if you wanted it?

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:06

HouseholdBudget · 06/07/2025 23:03

Completely agree. It seems to have made people quite irrationally angry.

I also don't think OP said they would have all the food out at the same time for all those getting antsy thinking she is encroaching on others space.

I don't think anyone is angry, we're all just expressing our views.
Calling different views angry is basically an attempt to shut them down though. 🫣

NewGoldFox · 06/07/2025 23:07

NewShoesForSpring · 06/07/2025 22:39

Omg op i think you have this ALL wrong!! I would be mortified to sit at a table for 4 with my dh & 2 random strangers & try to whip out that sort of a picnic & eat & chat to my dh with strangers observing every mouthful & listening to every word...I simply wouldn't do it!!

In this situation I would actively lookfor the private side by side seats so we can eat / drink & chat in relative privacy

I'm 100% team dh, he's done you a huge favour & i think you're being pretty silly.

Agree with Prosecco or red no less 😂

SapphireSeptember · 06/07/2025 23:08

BIossomtoes · 06/07/2025 20:58

Unfortunately.

Not really, especially as we live in a country with sleeper trains that go quite a long way (although nowhere near as long distance as ones in the USA, Canada and Europe.) Are you going to tell someone who's been on a train all night they can't have breakfast?

@Morgenrot25 We get it. You seem to hate food smells. Unless you only eat peppermints, Parma Violets and rose flavour Turkish delight?

Teanbiscuits33 · 06/07/2025 23:10

HouseholdBudget · 06/07/2025 23:03

Completely agree. It seems to have made people quite irrationally angry.

I also don't think OP said they would have all the food out at the same time for all those getting antsy thinking she is encroaching on others space.

If they are planning on putting the food on the table a bit at a time, then it makes no sense that she is moaning about not having a bigger table. Two tray tables on the back of the seats will suffice for that situation most of the time.

Even if the food fits as she envisages, it will be awkward for the two strangers sat next to a couple eating a meal and having a conversation 😂

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:12

SapphireSeptember · 06/07/2025 23:08

Not really, especially as we live in a country with sleeper trains that go quite a long way (although nowhere near as long distance as ones in the USA, Canada and Europe.) Are you going to tell someone who's been on a train all night they can't have breakfast?

@Morgenrot25 We get it. You seem to hate food smells. Unless you only eat peppermints, Parma Violets and rose flavour Turkish delight?

The three items you've listed also smell, because all food smells - I actually said that previously, in response to OPs comment regarding her food not smelling. 🫣

MasterBeth · 06/07/2025 23:15

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 22:55

These are just your opinions.
Other people are allowed to disagree or point out factually incorrect opinions. 😬

Edited

No, they are not just my opinions

These things are absolute facts:

People are allowed to eat and drink on trains. Intercity trains serve food and drink, including hot food, wine and beer. Railway stations are full of takeaway food and drink outlets

These things are, I would hope, uncontroversial customs:

People are entitled to their own space on a train.

If you have a table between four of you, you have a quarter of it each. You can spread the food on your bit of the table, but not on someone else's bit.

These things are suggestions:

If you are bothered by the sounds of smells of other people doing perfectly allowable things on the train, maybe don't take the train

Over the course of your journey, you could, of course, put different food on the table at different times.

This is, indeed, an opinion, but based on the afore-mentioned facts and customs.

It is completely reasonable to eat what you like on a train.

This is a new opinion:

It is completely reasonable to offer one's opinions on a message board thread.

mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 23:16

WhereOnEarthIsMyPlanet · 06/07/2025 23:03

All of which will fit on the fold down tables in the seats you have booked, so no issue!

But you must be able to see how 2 people next to each other eating off of separate trays is a far less pleasant/sociable experience than sitting at a table opposite each other with the food between you.

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Streetsofgold · 06/07/2025 23:16

I would be very annoyed to have to share a table with these two. OP sounds insufferable and entitled. I am guessing there would be quite a few people irritated by this. I would die of embarrassment to have my 'picnic' at a shared table. Just eat before you board.

NicolaCasanova · 06/07/2025 23:17

Alltheyellowbirds · 06/07/2025 21:34

I think they usually book two seats at a four person table, not all the four seats. Ie sharing the table with two other people.

Edited

Thanks. Are the other 2 people strangers? What do they do while this ‘picnic’ goes on?

Agree with the PPs saying that OP’s DH has booked the seats this time so as to swerve the weird train picnic.

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:17

MasterBeth · 06/07/2025 23:15

No, they are not just my opinions

These things are absolute facts:

People are allowed to eat and drink on trains. Intercity trains serve food and drink, including hot food, wine and beer. Railway stations are full of takeaway food and drink outlets

These things are, I would hope, uncontroversial customs:

People are entitled to their own space on a train.

If you have a table between four of you, you have a quarter of it each. You can spread the food on your bit of the table, but not on someone else's bit.

These things are suggestions:

If you are bothered by the sounds of smells of other people doing perfectly allowable things on the train, maybe don't take the train

Over the course of your journey, you could, of course, put different food on the table at different times.

This is, indeed, an opinion, but based on the afore-mentioned facts and customs.

It is completely reasonable to eat what you like on a train.

This is a new opinion:

It is completely reasonable to offer one's opinions on a message board thread.

Most of it was your opinion.
Your opinion isn't more valid than anyone else's. No long essay required.
🫣

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:18

mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 23:16

But you must be able to see how 2 people next to each other eating off of separate trays is a far less pleasant/sociable experience than sitting at a table opposite each other with the food between you.

It's probably more pleasant for everyone around you though.

mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 23:23

Streetsofgold · 06/07/2025 23:16

I would be very annoyed to have to share a table with these two. OP sounds insufferable and entitled. I am guessing there would be quite a few people irritated by this. I would die of embarrassment to have my 'picnic' at a shared table. Just eat before you board.

Ha ha, I'm entitled for sticking to my side of the table, and letting the other people do what they like with their part of the table. Really? I would say that the people trying to dictate what others are allowed to do on their own part of the table and trying to dictate what they allow on the whole table ate the entitled ones. Stick to your own part of the table and mind your own business. It's perfectly reasonable to eat lunch (in whatever form I like) in the space I've reserved on a train that is travelling over a meal time

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HouseholdBudget · 06/07/2025 23:23

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:06

I don't think anyone is angry, we're all just expressing our views.
Calling different views angry is basically an attempt to shut them down though. 🫣

I am only seeing you trying to shut down other's opinions.

I like the idea of a train picnic. And I wouldn't be bothered about sitting next to a couple having one.

mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 23:24

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:18

It's probably more pleasant for everyone around you though.

Sigh. I'm not encroaching on anyone else's space. Why are they bothered by what I eat for lunch? They can do what they like in their booked space, I'll so what I like in mine.

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HopeSpringsInfernal · 06/07/2025 23:25

TheCurious0range · 06/07/2025 22:28

Just an aside but do you still get pendolino trains on LNER? They used to make me sleepy

I've been using LNER since 2007 and I can't remember ever having pendolinos. The west coast line does though, or it did have. East coast is all Azumas now

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:25

mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 23:23

Ha ha, I'm entitled for sticking to my side of the table, and letting the other people do what they like with their part of the table. Really? I would say that the people trying to dictate what others are allowed to do on their own part of the table and trying to dictate what they allow on the whole table ate the entitled ones. Stick to your own part of the table and mind your own business. It's perfectly reasonable to eat lunch (in whatever form I like) in the space I've reserved on a train that is travelling over a meal time

Eating lunch isn't the same as having a picnic though. You surely must see that? A sandwich and a drink is completely different than a table picnic.
Your more private airline style seats are the best option all round.

MasterBeth · 06/07/2025 23:26

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:17

Most of it was your opinion.
Your opinion isn't more valid than anyone else's. No long essay required.
🫣

Edited

This is not a long essay. This is an annotated version of my earlier post to show how, no, most of the post was not opinion.

You do know that people are permitted to eat and drink on trains? You do know that railway stations sell food and drink? You do know what baby wipes is good for? You do understand that these things are facts, not opinions, right?

bittertwisted · 06/07/2025 23:26

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 21:50

Lots of people can use chopsticks.
🫣

She means she can have have chopsticks to eat with, not showing off she can use them

you sound so joyless, what is wrong with just having happy times, maybe even with a wipe thrown in.

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:26

mrsm43s · 06/07/2025 23:24

Sigh. I'm not encroaching on anyone else's space. Why are they bothered by what I eat for lunch? They can do what they like in their booked space, I'll so what I like in mine.

Why did you ask AIBU if you've already decided you're completely in the right?

Stef3 · 06/07/2025 23:27

Wondered the same.

Surely only toddlers and children struggle fo think of a way to stay entertained on a train? I’ve got two little ones and the thought of a train journey right now is bliss - even staring into space or looking out the window. Napping, reading a new book or magazines, listening to music or a podcast, watching something, crossword, game on your phone, colouring book if so inclined, scrolling on your phone, knitting!

It also seems very bratty to be annoyed about your birthday starting at 3 beyond childhood. You’re heading somewhere to celebrate it for goodness sake.

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:28

bittertwisted · 06/07/2025 23:26

She means she can have have chopsticks to eat with, not showing off she can use them

you sound so joyless, what is wrong with just having happy times, maybe even with a wipe thrown in.

Yes, because the only joy in life is a train picnic on a table wiped down with a baby wipe. 🫣

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:29

MasterBeth · 06/07/2025 23:26

This is not a long essay. This is an annotated version of my earlier post to show how, no, most of the post was not opinion.

You do know that people are permitted to eat and drink on trains? You do know that railway stations sell food and drink? You do know what baby wipes is good for? You do understand that these things are facts, not opinions, right?

🫣🫣🫣

MasterBeth · 06/07/2025 23:29

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:26

Why did you ask AIBU if you've already decided you're completely in the right?

Good grief! You really do have difficulties with reading comprehension, don't you?

The AIBU was about feeling disappointed with her husband's booking. Remember?

AuntMarch · 06/07/2025 23:30

Morgenrot25 · 06/07/2025 23:26

Why did you ask AIBU if you've already decided you're completely in the right?

the AIBU wasn't about the picnic she normally has though.