I hate anti-vaxxers

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How can anyone in this day and age be an anti-vaxxer? London and West mids currently suffering from a meassls outbreak. DS is under 1 so cannot yet have vaccine, I know of someone whose 10momth old contracted measels as they were too young for vaccine.
Ridiculous that reckless and tardy parents are putting all our children at risk. Actually terrible.

Sorry what? You wish you could have another Covid vaccine despite the fact that it affected your heart and you’ve been medically advised to not have it, but you would like others to take it for you despite them having the same risk? How does that make you any less selfish than an anti vaxxer?

What a load of bollocks. Of course infections diseases are everyone's concern.

All that matters is how things are addressed moving forwards and how health education can be improved. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I know an antivaxxer who isn’t obese, yet is on weight loss injections while breastfeeding to lose baby weight

then they are not anti vax, they are literally having and taking vaccinations and picking and cooking which medications they use

Sounds like you just want to neglect your kids and for nobody to be able to intervene tbh.

Agreed.
In young children asthma often presents as a cough too. not necessarily as a wheeze at first. A fact I’d like more teachers to know, incidentally.

I agree.

But I do think people should have the choice over what they do with their own bodies.

However, I don’t think this should extent to children.

I think it’s awful that these people care more about their conspiracy theories and ‘sticking it to the man’ over the health of their own kids.

I still don’t think they should be forced to have their kids vaccinated but they obviously lack basic parenting skills and so should be supported by social services.

Do yo include adults who choose not to have Covid or flu vaccines in that?

I have a needle phobia and having the Covid jab was a huge thing for me but I felt I had to because of the pressure. I had one booster and haven't had one since. Thankfully I'm not in one of the eligible groups so aren't being pushed.

Yep

I always hear this and funnily enough I don’t have a single antivaxxer among the several medics in my family. My obstetrician was openly dismissive of antivaxxers (surprisingly!) when we were discussing the the roll out of the RSV vaccine.

I left the decision up to my DD - she decided not to have it and still at 21 would rather have younger, more regular smears than risk the side effects. This is simply what we feel comfortable with and to each their own. DD is someone who often has severe reactions to vaccines (her childhood vaccine schedule had to be altered due to this), hence she really only has the absolute essentials. I personally don’t feel that HPV is one of these, especially at that age.

WLI aren’t vaccines.

Exactly! And when I was late for my vaccine (I'd actually been living overseas and had been vaxxed there) both times I saw a doc, GP & at hospital, I was quizzed as to why I wasn't vaccinated.

NO support at all for a possible anti-vaxxer.

This is the problem with our society, people like you who have no concern for anyone else in the community. So incredibly selfish.

some might say if you don’t care about others, then don’t be part of society & go live somewhere remote
it’s not about other peoples feelings , it’s about health & lives …

I got chicken pox when I was 36, and suffered repeated attacks of shingles and post-herpetic neuralgia for around 10 years afterwards. I don't know if that will have given me immunity, but I'll look into it and if it doesn't, I'll be having the vaccine when I'm eligible in a few weeks time.

Shingles is really fucking painful, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Some people can be so ignorant it's actually scary.

Anti vaxxers benefit from the rest of us in society who get vaccinated against serious diseases but they'd be the first to seek nhs treatment if they or their children came down with polio, mumps etc.
It's this 'I'm alright Jack' selfish attitude that gets me, to keep the members of society who are unable to get vaccinated safe via herd immunity everyone needs to do their bit to contribute.

If I found out another kid was not vaccinated due to the parents choice to believe conspiracy theories and not due to medical reasons then they can stay the hell away from me and mine.

I think the UK should follow other countries examples and not allow unvaccinated children to attend school, nursery etc unless they had an exemption certificate.
You make your choice but it shouldn't impact on the rest of society negatively.

Are you aware that you can ONLY get shingles if you've had chickenpox? So if everyone was vaccinated against chicken pox then no-one would develop shingles in later life.

@GentleSheep That’s not true. The vaccine introduces an attenuated version of the virus to the body so you can indeed get shingles later on. There is good evidence that shingles is not as severe in those who acquire the virus through vaccination though.
There’s also a shingles vaccine available.

100% - I will not knowingly allow antivaxxers anywhere near my child. As well as the infectious component, I do not want my child to be influenced in any way by people who are so selfish and self-absorbed that they don't care about the more vulnerable members of society

No one likes needles but it’s part of modern medicine, so that can’t be an excuse. If you became diabetic you’d be grateful for needles

My sister has never had any vaccinations. Not even as a kid.
Mum simply said she forgot.
I have im all upto date every jab going was stabbed in me.

My sister never gets ill very healthy no problems doesn't suffer with anything.
I think she's had about 3 colds in 40 year.
Never suffered any bout of mental health issues either.

Me i suffer with alsorts of problems.
Constant migraine tintus pains catch a cold from anyone eye floaters anxiety de realization mental health is in the pot etc.
It dose make me think did i need half the jabs.

Im not against it as its needed but it dose make me wonder.

I didn't know that thanks for explaining! I did forget to mention the shingles vaccine though. Doh!

Alot of the discussion on this post has been self-righteous, bullying and smug medical fascism mascarading as 'care'. How ever much you disagree with anti vax you can not control people and you can not make life 100% safe for your children. Maybe that explains your method of bullying and threats because you are scared that regardless of what you do for your children, you can feed then all the right foods, breastfeed, have all their vaccinations, they still may become ill.

You see the threat of other parents choosing not to vaccinate their children and just feel helpless so call for state to fix it for you.

Do you really think you will win the argument by calling parents neglectful, intellectually subnormal and so on?

You need to learn the difference between anecdata and peer reviewed data.

I am a supporter of vaccination, my children were vaccinated for everything available. Abusing people won't make them change, but I understand that health workers who can work with groups that don't want to vaccinate have worked wonders with a softer approach. I cited my life experience because it is indicative of the effect these illnesses had before vaccination was available.