Lily Allen ‘can’t remember’ how many abortions she’s had

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Article in the Fail today about this.
I am pro choice but it did make me a bit uncomfortable. After a while a string of abortions - too many to remember - would surely leave its mark physically and emotionally not mention the cost on the NHS.
Everyone should have a choice but is there not an element of personal responsibility to just take precautions after the first few times?!

I never said it was my business? If you’re in the public eye and you blurt something out you’re going to get public opinion. If you do not want opinions on something then you keep your business to yourself.

She took no responsibility in ensuring it didn’t happen again.

Should we all just fuck about with no protection and seek abortions when we land up pregnant? Don’t worry about the impact this has on healthcare systems then! Or is it ok that she’s rich and can afford private healthcare?

Will you be teaching your daughter to have sex without contraception if she fancies it? Just have an abortion love.

I can’t actually believe so many of you here are hiding behind ‘feminism’ to defend silly people (then men/man included). You must have lost your mind.

I don’t care if she’s had a billionty terminations - I don’t care how many any women has

it has zero impact on me

I only care that she, or any woman, can have a termination if she needs one

So you’re not actually pro choice then?

No. I won't and I didn't.

It's clear a lot of posters have no experience, knowledge or understanding about the chaotic lives vulnerable women often have. Of course prevention is the ideal but the reality is complex and frankly, not always possible. As a PP says, these women are the ones who need the easiest access to non-judgemental compassionate treatment.

Younger girls/Teens make up a tiny number of those accessing abortion. The majority are between 20 and 35.
An unplanned or unwanted pregnancy has nothing to do with someone's morals and is an incredibly blinkered view. Not forgetting there is a reasonable number of abortions of planned and wanted pregnancies due to medical concerns.

20-35 to me is younger girls 🤣 Young women then to be precise.
I don’t really think that medical reasons is what this OP is about- it’s more about getting pregnant accidentally and using abortion as a contraception method

Why should there be ‘morals’ and ‘shame’ around having a medical procedure?

Abortion can’t be a contraception method- that ship has already sailed

She took responsibility by having abortions.

All miscarriages are “spontaneous abortions”. It’s in your notes when you have one. I know because I’ve read it in my own medical records numerous times.
Abortion is the ending of a pregnancy.

Medical abortion can be a choice or a necessity, spontaneous abortions are the body rejecting a pregnancy, usually at an early stage.

If a young woman finds herself pregnant when she doesn’t want to be, good for her for making a choice and sorting it out.

If it happens repeatedly in a short amount of time, it indicates she’s probably not in a good place and would benefit from some support. What she doesn’t need is Judgey McDailyMail types calling her a whore.

This. It’s not even just the risk of pregnancy. Not using contraception brings a whole host of risks, including STI’s that cause infertility. We should take personal responsibility for ourselves.

I mean I absolutely agree that calling someone a whore is downright disgusting.

Choosing to end a pregnancy is not the same as it happening spontaneously. I wish I had a choice on the matter but it’s a choice that I will never have. Numerous miscarriages after ivf though !

Do you really think Lily didn't want to answer the question? She even said it was "romantic" that an ex offered to pay for one of her abortions. She's deliberately saying all this for attention.

Ah yes because all women are in relationships where their partner will wear a condom, and keep it on for the entirety of a sexual encounter. Absolutely none ever rip or fail either.

It seems as though Lily Allen wasn’t bothering to use contraception and was just using abortion as a back up plan. Seems irresponsible to me.

It would seem strange for them to rip or fail on multiple occasions though. She could’ve used the pill, coil or other methods if they didn’t want to use condoms.

I just think there have to be limits and that it isn't a choice that should be taken lightly, and shouldn't be regarded as such. This isn't an all or nothing question. We can be pro-choice and have abortion rights without regarding or treating abortion as an inconsequential personal choice in our legal system. How we think of and treat human life has wide implications beyond the personal.

No, she laughed at her stupid, naïve younger self for thinking it was romantic.

I don’t feel shame about my one abortion but I also don’t think it is something I need to feel good about either.

So who would benefit from this limit? Would it be the women forced to have babies they don't want? The babies born to mothers who don't want them? The taxpayer who has to pay for these unwanted babies? The older siblings whose parents cant cope with another? Which human life is doing better thanks to this limit of yours?

But given as you’ve just described there are multiple genuine reasons to be concerned if a woman is doing this, it’s not lighthearted fodder for the press ‘hahah what am I like?!’-style. I don’t know why she shared it, I don’t know what’s gone wrong in her life that contraception has been too hard, but it’s obviously something.

But the vast majority on here are not opposing any woman's right to choose. I don't oppose LA's right to choose to have as many abortions as she feels that she needs. I am not however going to defend it as a wise or ethical decision to have so many abortions so carelessly because most people would agree that it isn't. As I have asked before what are we debating in this thread? Her right to have an abortion or her right to have multiple abortions, joke about it and not be judged? Because IMO she has every right for the former but absolutely no right for the latter

I've never had an abortion, but I was once advised to have one during a pregnancy they thought there was an issue with. I nearly had a mental breakdown over the decision, and luckily I didn't have to do it in the end.

I would imagine having an abortion is quite distressing. Why wouldn't you do everything in your power not to land yourself in that position again, never mind 5 times.

I do think shes lying but no a woman shouldn't be having 4/5 abortions its not a form of birth control