Page 30 | Rachel Reeves crying in PM questions

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 16:20

TwoFeralKids · 02/07/2025 16:18

Trying to resolve the problems the Tories caused.

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Creating their own.

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 16:20

alexalisten · 02/07/2025 16:15

Its about you saying that suicide is being used as a weapon. People do die from suicide because of the government, and the dwp its a fact. The millions dying would not be all suicide it would be the people who lose their homes, cant pay carers, cant get to appointments, cant afford to eat, cant afford aides, cant afford electricity for medical equipment. You can not take someone's whole income away from people who have no choices.

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They voted for assisted suicide too - explicitly including when someone was motivated by feeling a burden.

TwoFeralKids · 02/07/2025 16:20

Like I say I am not a Labour supporter but the Tory party has caused more damage yet they seem to be able to get away with it. I suspect people on here just Reform. Thick as shit.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 02/07/2025 16:21

Manxexile · 02/07/2025 13:27

Apologies if this has already been said but I haven't read all posts.

They've said on World At One that this is a "personal" matter and nothing to do with the job.

I'd have to say that if that's true, then I would have told her to stay out of the chamber - for two reasons:

First, it looks bad for Keir as people might think he's forced her to appear when she shouldn't be there

Second, simple kindness would say don't put her in the spotlight - particularly today

Starmer and his Whips don't have a clue how to do politics

That's not not having a clue about politics, that's simply lacking in the basics of being a decent human being and manager, never mind leader...

TwoFeralKids · 02/07/2025 16:21

Another76543 · 02/07/2025 16:19

Those parents often chose private school because their child had been failed by the state system, and long before the cost of living crisis, very high interest rates, followed by a 20% overnight tax, on top of business rate and NIC changes. Many families did not foresee the huge effect that the combination of those things could have. Many of those families affected are just trying to do their best in whatever way they can. It was Reeves who implemented a huge tax and who has openly said she wants private schools to be closed. So, yes, it is Reeves to blame.

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Curious but how many pupils at these schools are like the ones you talk of? What percentage? Fairly small I think.

2andadog · 02/07/2025 16:22

Another76543 · 02/07/2025 16:14

it's better than taxing the employees more.

Employees are being made redundant as struggling businesses try to cut costs.

What do you think they should do?

As a start, a 1p increase in the basic rate of income tax and VAT would raise billions. However, Labour have backed themselves into a corner by promising not to do that, which has meant they are now scrabbling around trying to raise more tax from elsewhere.

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Businesses struggling and making people redundant has been happening for several years. That's the result of an economic downturn sadly. As much as NI may have been the straw that broke the camels back, in a vast majority of cases, the businesses being affected in this way would have been making hard choices anyway.

Agreed on the 1p for income tax, but can you imagine the uproar...people don't want to pay more but want increased benefit spending/public services etc etc when the country has been stood still and leached for many years.

OrrAppleCheeks · 02/07/2025 16:22

alexalisten · 02/07/2025 15:32

For over a year they have been saying they are making cuts to pip then At the beginning of this government for several months they where saying if you lose pip you will lose lcwra. The changes now make no difference to me at all if they actually stick to them but their has been a lot of stress over the last year of not knowing then flip flopping on what they are actually doing. You have no idea of how vulnerable you are when you are completely reliant on benefits through no fault of your own and people start talking about taking them away and leaving you with nothing its scary.

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What makes you think that I have no idea? Are you assuming that simply because I’m challenging your hyperbolic comments I don’t understand what it’s like to live with a disability and to depend on benefits?

justasking111 · 02/07/2025 16:22

scalt · 02/07/2025 16:18

What a shame it wasn’t Boris Johnson crying while Harriet Harman grilled him about parties. That would have been worth seeing. (But he’s not human, and never has been.)

Och labour had parties, the Senedd certainly had parties. SNP no idea. Neighbours had family get togethers,

Second lockdown our family broke the roolz. Saw our grandchildren and children all the time so they could work and the children weren't staring at four walls.

I'll never fall for that crap again.

Another76543 · 02/07/2025 16:22

TwoFeralKids · 02/07/2025 16:20

Like I say I am not a Labour supporter but the Tory party has caused more damage yet they seem to be able to get away with it. I suspect people on here just Reform. Thick as shit.

Tory party has caused more damage yet they seem to be able to get away with it.

They got voted out. They didn’t “get away with it”.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 16:22

TwoFeralKids · 02/07/2025 16:20

Like I say I am not a Labour supporter but the Tory party has caused more damage yet they seem to be able to get away with it. I suspect people on here just Reform. Thick as shit.

Oh dear. Maybe people think that of some Labour voters.

MichaelandKirk · 02/07/2025 16:24

The whole of the labour Party have NO experience in running a business, they won not because they were offering a new way but becuse the Tories messed up but not like THIS.

Its truly a car crash and Starmer wanging on about himself when Reeves was in floods of tears is not a good look for either of them.

She is massively out of her dePTH. Growth indeed... lets be sneaky and put up NI for employers and hope no one would notice. Charge VAT on private schools which is the politics of envy but worst of all for me take the WFA from the very poor. Its not as though a woman of 85 relying on the money to take the edge of her winter fuel bills can do a few more shifts.

SHAME ON THEM ALL.

TwoFeralKids · 02/07/2025 16:24

Another76543 · 02/07/2025 16:22

Tory party has caused more damage yet they seem to be able to get away with it.

They got voted out. They didn’t “get away with it”.

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Well seems like those voters have short memories. I just want stability so rather give Labour a chance.

IwasDueANameChange · 02/07/2025 16:24

Its a fucking impossible job. We need to save some fucking money on benefits but no one will accept it.

None of us could do that job or would even agree to put up with the the 4 year stint in the stocks it entails.

Maddy70 · 02/07/2025 16:24

Christ. A woman no matter what her job is allowed to be human , she looks like she hasn't slept and is visibly upset. Whatever happened to the "be kind" movement

justasking111 · 02/07/2025 16:24

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 16:22

Oh dear. Maybe people think that of some Labour voters.

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You can think that of anyone who slavishly follows one party from birth to death.

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 16:25

TwoFeralKids · 02/07/2025 16:20

Like I say I am not a Labour supporter but the Tory party has caused more damage yet they seem to be able to get away with it. I suspect people on here just Reform. Thick as shit.

Ad hominem insults?

Another76543 · 02/07/2025 16:25

2andadog · 02/07/2025 16:22

Businesses struggling and making people redundant has been happening for several years. That's the result of an economic downturn sadly. As much as NI may have been the straw that broke the camels back, in a vast majority of cases, the businesses being affected in this way would have been making hard choices anyway.

Agreed on the 1p for income tax, but can you imagine the uproar...people don't want to pay more but want increased benefit spending/public services etc etc when the country has been stood still and leached for many years.

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Agreed on the 1p for income tax, but can you imagine the uproar...people don't want to pay more but want increased benefit spending/public services etc etc when the country has been stood still and leached for many years.

And therein lies the problem. Too many people demand increased standards and government spending, but are not happy to fund it themselves. They’re in favour of tax hikes as long as it doesn’t affect them. You only have to read threads over the last few months, where Labour voters are regretting their choice at the election, because they didn’t think spending cuts or tax increases would affect them. They were, however, happy for others to be affected.

IwasDueANameChange · 02/07/2025 16:26

The whole of the labour Party have NO experience in running a business

Running a state is nothing like running a business. The last thing we need is business people running government.

ghostyslovesheets · 02/07/2025 16:26

Another76543 · 02/07/2025 16:19

Those parents often chose private school because their child had been failed by the state system, and long before the cost of living crisis, very high interest rates, followed by a 20% overnight tax, on top of business rate and NIC changes. Many families did not foresee the huge effect that the combination of those things could have. Many of those families affected are just trying to do their best in whatever way they can. It was Reeves who implemented a huge tax and who has openly said she wants private schools to be closed. So, yes, it is Reeves to blame.

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All families are trying to do their best - the vat being added wasn’t suddenly announced it was widely flagged as a policy before the election- people had time to plan , move their year 9 and 10 kids to state school. Also what about the schools - they could have absorbed the cost for those approaching GCSE - introduced a longer payment plan, reduced fees for a period?

people are responsible for their own choices and planning - people are going without food, defaulting on mortgages etc no one is expecting the government to bail them out.

the last government allowed Brexit to happen, causes terrible damage to the economy and left the incoming government to sort it out

tsmainsqueeze · 02/07/2025 16:26

I have no sympathy for such a hard faced robot of a woman.

alexalisten · 02/07/2025 16:26

IwasDueANameChange · 02/07/2025 16:24

Its a fucking impossible job. We need to save some fucking money on benefits but no one will accept it.

None of us could do that job or would even agree to put up with the the 4 year stint in the stocks it entails.

Why do we need to save money on disability benefits thats only 4% of government spending why cant we save somewhere from the other 96% rather then target the most vulnerable in society

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 16:27

TwoFeralKids · 02/07/2025 16:21

Curious but how many pupils at these schools are like the ones you talk of? What percentage? Fairly small I think.

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Large enough that many schools are having to close due to their departure.

GoodbyeRosie · 02/07/2025 16:29

This thread needs taking down, it's more disgraceful than even the vilest Meghan and Harry threads.

I didn't know MN could stoop so low but some of the comments on this thread are unhinged and disgusting.

BurntBroccoli · 02/07/2025 16:30

AnotherBrickIn · 02/07/2025 12:45

Well I hope someone is looking after her. I say that as a Tory voter.

Yes I remember when Liz Truss was in her final days of breakdown - felt sorry for her too and I’m not a Tory voter.

Lioncub2020 · 02/07/2025 16:30

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 15:59

How many count?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2epp4nyz8o

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Suicide isn't a risk it is a choice.