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Rachel Reeves crying in PM questions

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AnotherBrickIn · 02/07/2025 12:39

She’s visibly crying

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EleanorReally · 02/07/2025 18:20

she looks hunched over

ajandjjmum · 02/07/2025 18:20

ghostyslovesheets · 02/07/2025 16:11

I feel sad for any child who’s education is disrupted but their parents chose private education they couldn’t afford - not RR

When they chose it, they could afford it.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 18:21

tommyhoundmum · 02/07/2025 18:15

I understood it was a personal matter, not about her role.

It’s not likely. She’s having a shit time.

alexalisten · 02/07/2025 18:22

tommyhoundmum · 02/07/2025 18:15

I understood it was a personal matter, not about her role.

No she cried because lindsay hoyle told her to make her answers shorter so she cried and then went home early

PandoraSocks · 02/07/2025 18:22

PhilippaGeorgiou · 02/07/2025 17:48

Whilst I partially agree with you (and not just about some of the comments about her), and I freely admit that I have some degree of bias because I know her well in person, I do think that whilst one can be sympathetic that there is something upsetting her, she has given not a flying f... about the upset that she has caused and continues to cause to pensioners and the disabled. If this was what she entered politics for - high office at the expense of care and compassion for the most vulnerable in society - then she has to some extent made her own bed. You reap what you sow. And I am going to be clear - in my view her lack of compassion, understanding, empathy and any inkling of Labour values is not something new.

If she was unable to continue for some personal reason, whatever that is, then she could and should have left the Chamber, no matter what was happening. She wasn't moved by the personal stories of distress throughout the media over the last week or two. Distress she was as much responsible for as any other minister. So it cannot be a surprise that she is being treated with the same disdain that she treats people with.

I do agree with you.

But personally I don't like seeing a person in public distress like that and I felt sorry for her, despite the fact she has shown no compassion to disabled people and pensioners.

Maybe I am a soft touch.

On the other hand I think she should go. Along with Kendall. No two ways about it.

Quite intrigued that you know her!

Jellycatspyjamas · 02/07/2025 18:22

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/07/2025 18:18

Well, that's put all the people in London and the South East who are working for twenty odd grand a year in their place, as they don't even earn the pittance those Scots pensioners are receiving from pensions.

You’ll note I said earning, as in employment - the higher tax payers meaning higher tax paying pensioners confusion was cleared up pages ago.

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 18:22

Jellycatspyjamas · 02/07/2025 18:13

Well Brexit was supposed to save millions to invest in the NHS, it was on the side of a bus so it must be true.

It was £350 million a week wasn’t it? Since then more than £700 million extra per week has been invested in the NHS.

The NHS is a money pit in need of huge reform. But you just needed to look to Wales to see Labour couldn’t deliver.

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 18:23

ajandjjmum · 02/07/2025 18:20

When they chose it, they could afford it.

Misread.

littleblueenvelope · 02/07/2025 18:24

@channacelanei hope this comment is satire!

lifeonmars100 · 02/07/2025 18:25

I have been crying a lot recently even when out in public, I have had a sudden and shocking bereavement, then 2 weeks later someone close to me was the victim of a serious and violent crime, and yesterday I had another horrible and traumatic event which has meant calling the police. Not saying any of this applies to Rachel Reeves but to those of you saying it would be a cold day in hell before you ever wept in public, all of us have a breaking point. i know that I have reached mine, i even flinch when my phone beeps as I am so scared it is yet more bad news

Eddielizzard · 02/07/2025 18:27

ThisTicklishFatball · 02/07/2025 18:18

The top 10% of PAYE earners already contribute over 60% of the total tax receipts in the country. They are essentially funding the NHS and welfare payments.
The UK is in a dire situation, and overtaxing the few net contributors until they leave is counterproductive. It’s clear the current government taxes based on ideology rather than fiscal responsibility.
Government spending continues to rise, but tax revenue isn’t keeping pace. We can’t simply tax our way out of this crisis. What’s needed is significant economic growth and a reduction in spending, which seems unattainable as everyone demands their share from the state.
We need to acknowledge that there aren’t enough people contributing to the system, and the welfare system is overly generous. Higher and middle earners face some of the highest taxes globally, while lower earners pay some of the lowest. At the same time, we have a very significant number of physically able individuals reliant on state support and one of the largest unproductive working-age populations in the West.
These uncomfortable truths must be addressed. Over-taxation has long been shown to reduce tax revenue at certain income levels, as many economists have pointed out. Now, this issue is being extended nationally, with businesses being overtaxed to the point of cutting employment.
You can’t keep taxing the same narrow group repeatedly because they will leave, and tax revenues will decline further. Everyone needs to contribute more.
It's also incredibly ignorant and foolish to assume that all farmers are wealthy. Some farmers don’t own the land they work on, while others do, but they’re neither landed gentry nor aristocracy. They often face excessive taxes and mandatory financial obligations that tend to go unnoticed. It’s ironic that the Labour government intends to force farmers, who aren't part of the landed gentry or aristocracy, to sell their land for housing developments at reduced prices, without compensating them for the land’s true value.This move could leave farmers relying on benefits to get by, adding to the number already dependent on them, while also creating the challenge of finding homes for displaced farmers and ensuring jobs for everyone impacted.

Exactly. And taxing the rich and higher CGT also mean the higher tax bracket think wtf should I bother? If you can't reap the rewards of the risks you take (talking about entrepreneurs) then what's it all for? The 10% paying the 60% tax bill are fucking pissed off.

You need to encourage wealth generation. Problem with spending other people's money is it soon runs out. That's where we are.

The rich must pay my arse. They've been paying for fucking years.

cumbriaisbest · 02/07/2025 18:27

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 18:21

It’s not likely. She’s having a shit time.

Maybe both? Maybe poor health?

channacelane · 02/07/2025 18:28

PandoraSocks · 02/07/2025 18:22

I do agree with you.

But personally I don't like seeing a person in public distress like that and I felt sorry for her, despite the fact she has shown no compassion to disabled people and pensioners.

Maybe I am a soft touch.

On the other hand I think she should go. Along with Kendall. No two ways about it.

Quite intrigued that you know her!

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Sorry for her? She took one of the top jobs and is messing millions of people over. No, that's an embarrassment she was arrogant to think she can wing it and the risk she took was unacceptable. It's not like she messed up a little task with no repercussions. She is a danger to our economy. She should have womanned up and either not attend PMQ or maintained a stiff upper lip. She looks like a love sick puppy.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 18:30

cumbriaisbest · 02/07/2025 18:27

Maybe both? Maybe poor health?

I doubt it. Just sheer stress. She started crying when Starmer was responding to a question about her position.

Itchybritches · 02/07/2025 18:31

Trying to feel sympathy for her.
Nope. Can’t do it.

Supergirl1958 · 02/07/2025 18:32

AnotherBrickIn · 02/07/2025 12:46

AIBU to think it’s time Starmer resigned. There you go.

You’re a Tory voter so yes! Biased!

LittlleMy · 02/07/2025 18:32

DaphneduM · 02/07/2025 12:50

There's no rationale behind her decisions, either politically or economically.

e.g. taking away the winter fuel allowance - first announcement for the new government - saved a pittance and was terrible optics impacting on those just above pension credit - they could easily taken it away from higher rate taxpayers - much more acceptable

the talk about reducing the annual £20k allowance into a cash isa - I hope she doesn't do this - surely sensible savers should be encouraged not punished? Again politically it looks bad, and economically it won't have the desired effect that people will invest in British stocks and shares instead They won't.

I would never have voted Tory, as I believe in the fundamentals of a Labour government - however this new Government is not Labour - I'm not sure they have any core beliefs at all. I feel duped and an idiot for voting for this lot.

At 52, single and no family or friends support network, I’ve only just really started to fully understand ISAs and started to include them in my savings plan for my retirement in my 60s. So trying to be proactive and look after my future so is a bit gutting they intend to reduce the threshold anywhere from 4-10k from 20k.

Totally agree with Matin Lewis who sums it up really well with his statement: “I think it's a mistake. I doubt it'll substantially nudge people to invest not save; said to be the aim.
This isn't nudge economics, it's likely just piss people off economics.

My suspicion is that for many who use cash ISAs, it would just result in them having to pay more tax on their relatively paltry savings interest rates, and not having an epiphany and thinking, "oooh, I'll just fill up the remainder of my ISA allowance with investments instead".
Those especially in retirement are unlikely to want to up their risk profile.

I am in favour of encouraging people to invest. It's good for individuals over the longer term and for the economy, especially if a way is found to encourage people to invest in UK firms. And we do have a problem with risk appetite in the UK.

Yet this isn't the route to do that. I'll be disappointed if the Chancellor chooses to listen to the big investment firms in the City, and shut down many building societies and consumer groups who've said it's not a good route.

Instead, let's start a conversation about how we encourage investments – even possible intervention when people save to explain other options. We need to educate, provide better one-on-one easy guidance, and start to change the way people think about risk.

But let's use the carrot, not a stick.”

TwoTuesday · 02/07/2025 18:33

She was observing proceedings, not taking part, and did look dreadful, but not obviously crying. Some of these posters are making out that she was sobbing over the despatch box.
BBC report online said it was a personal matter so the party would not be commenting further. Good for her for going to work having had a bad night/bad news. She is a human being. I'd like to see any other politician doing better in the circumstances.

TwoFeralKids · 02/07/2025 18:34

TwoTuesday · 02/07/2025 18:33

She was observing proceedings, not taking part, and did look dreadful, but not obviously crying. Some of these posters are making out that she was sobbing over the despatch box.
BBC report online said it was a personal matter so the party would not be commenting further. Good for her for going to work having had a bad night/bad news. She is a human being. I'd like to see any other politician doing better in the circumstances.

If she wasn't there she would be accused of various things as well.

TwoTuesday · 02/07/2025 18:35

TwoFeralKids · 02/07/2025 18:34

If she wasn't there she would be accused of various things as well.

Exactly, she can't win.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 18:36

TwoTuesday · 02/07/2025 18:33

She was observing proceedings, not taking part, and did look dreadful, but not obviously crying. Some of these posters are making out that she was sobbing over the despatch box.
BBC report online said it was a personal matter so the party would not be commenting further. Good for her for going to work having had a bad night/bad news. She is a human being. I'd like to see any other politician doing better in the circumstances.

She was crying. As in tears. You need to rewatch where she does.

Trendyname · 02/07/2025 18:37

PersephoneSeethes · 02/07/2025 13:08

Sorry, but the most Government finances round the world have been utterly dire since 2008 - here in the UK, that was a Labour government.

2008 was a global scale recession, coming from US. A lot of countries have recovered. You cannot blame labour government of 2008 for the mess right now. You cannot blame labour definitely blame Tories for being in government for 14 years and doing very little and lining their pockets.

DiamondThrone · 02/07/2025 18:37

TwoTuesday · 02/07/2025 18:33

She was observing proceedings, not taking part, and did look dreadful, but not obviously crying. Some of these posters are making out that she was sobbing over the despatch box.
BBC report online said it was a personal matter so the party would not be commenting further. Good for her for going to work having had a bad night/bad news. She is a human being. I'd like to see any other politician doing better in the circumstances.

Tears visibly rolling down her cheek isn't crying? And if you believe the "personal matter" story, you'll believe anything.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 02/07/2025 18:39

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 18:30

I doubt it. Just sheer stress. She started crying when Starmer was responding to a question about her position.

I'm not really surprised, he was directed asked if her position was safe and he fudged it by wittering on instead.

He may as well have said on yer bike love.

As for RR, I don't like seeing anyone upset but my sympathy well is running a little dry right now. Must be the heat.

tommyhoundmum · 02/07/2025 18:39

lifeonmars100 · 02/07/2025 18:25

I have been crying a lot recently even when out in public, I have had a sudden and shocking bereavement, then 2 weeks later someone close to me was the victim of a serious and violent crime, and yesterday I had another horrible and traumatic event which has meant calling the police. Not saying any of this applies to Rachel Reeves but to those of you saying it would be a cold day in hell before you ever wept in public, all of us have a breaking point. i know that I have reached mine, i even flinch when my phone beeps as I am so scared it is yet more bad news

I am sorry this is happening to you.

Rachel Reeves is trying to get the country on a secure financial footing but she is sadly making mistake after mistake.

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