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Rachel Reeves crying in PM questions

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AnotherBrickIn · 02/07/2025 12:39

She’s visibly crying

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justasking111 · 02/07/2025 15:54

Mumble12 · 02/07/2025 15:21

The average person in an office doesn’t have half the country criticising their work, their appearance, their qualifications. And I can absolutely assure you that if my workplace was reflective of the treatment she gets from the public, I’d be crying.

Kier Starmer was bashed by badenoch for missing PMQs while he was away on official engagements. I’m sure she’d have had some grind to say about Reeves being absent for a personal matter.

Badenoch is clutching at straws.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 15:54

xanthomelana · 02/07/2025 15:46

Well I hope she doesn’t plan on claiming PIP for her mental health, she should take her governments advice and just soldier on with it like they expect the peasants to do.

I can’t have any sympathy for this woman when her and her colleagues have caused untold misery for pensioners, the disabled and their carers. All actions have consequences and she’s finding that out the hard way.

I don’t think she’s made decent decisions, the opposite they are woeful, but I also think Starmer is more accountable. And looking at that clip she’s too distressed to continue.

PersephoneSeethes · 02/07/2025 15:54

Jellycatspyjamas · 02/07/2025 13:12

And the Tories have had 14 years to do something about it. In that time the level
of people in receipt of state support has increased hugely, while poverty levels have similarly increased. I’ve not seen anyone with any decent ideas to try and tackle that - but it does need tackling.

Well, looking at it historically, the Great Depression took over a decade to recover from, until the late 1930s or WW2. We got Covid in 2019.

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 15:55

AudHvamm · 02/07/2025 15:51

All women shortlists are to remove hiring biases like believing men are more competent than women from the process.

They also remove any men who ARE more competent meaning you do not get the most competent person for the job.

babyproblems · 02/07/2025 15:57

greencartbluecart · 02/07/2025 12:55

And?

why is it a big deal
stressful job trying to fix a dire situation with a load of hate thrown her way every day ?

This. I don’t get the fuss. She’s probably very very stressed.
and I don’t think the PM should go. That’s insanity. One of the main if not THE main problem with politics today is that everyone is too short sighted. We never complete any long term plans because we chop and change too often.

Jellycatspyjamas · 02/07/2025 15:58

There is a significant amount of families working extremely part time or not working at all and claiming the child and housing element of universal credit which costs tax payers significantly more then supporting disabled people who have no choice but we dont talk about that we only talk about how awful and lazy disabled people are as they are an easy target.

It’s not about awful, lazy disabled people, it is about the huge increase in people claiming disability benefits. I’m not saying the proposals were the right way to go about it but it really does need looked at.

Having a situation where transition planning for disabled young people basically amounts to arranging their transition to adult benefits isn’t sustainable for anyone financially or in human cost.

We do need to look at under employment too - which will cause no less outcry or outrage than all the other proposals have because every one believes themselves to be deserving of support and no one thinks their situation should ever change and someone else should always pay.

Goldenbear · 02/07/2025 15:58

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 15:43

The Labour Party is with me on this - they abandoned all women short lists at the last election. And despite being a beneficiary, even Angela Raynor recognised it would have been better to have won in a fight against any man who wished to stand for election too.

And? My opinion is not in agreement with the Labour party then. I think it is regressive just like all of Nigel's policies.

EsmaCannonball · 02/07/2025 15:59

The Chancellor has to project strength, competence and confidence so managing to sit through PMQs without bursting into tears is the job.

AudHvamm · 02/07/2025 15:59

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 15:55

They also remove any men who ARE more competent meaning you do not get the most competent person for the job.

Competent candidates got airlifted in to other constituencies. Don't worry the men still hold the majority of seats and continued to do so throughout the time AWSs were in practice.

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 15:59

AudHvamm · 02/07/2025 15:53

Ah yes the weaponised suicide risk. In other debates this has been demonstrably proven to be vastly overstated.

How many count?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2epp4nyz8o

Family handout image showing John Charlesworth with two children beside a tractor.

Barnsley farmer took own life over inheritance tax, inquest told

John Charlesworth from Barnsley was worried about "losing everything", an inquest hears.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2epp4nyz8o

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 16:01

Goldenbear · 02/07/2025 15:58

And? My opinion is not in agreement with the Labour party then. I think it is regressive just like all of Nigel's policies.

The Labour Party is run by Kier Starmer

Bluebellwood129 · 02/07/2025 16:02

babyproblems · 02/07/2025 15:57

This. I don’t get the fuss. She’s probably very very stressed.
and I don’t think the PM should go. That’s insanity. One of the main if not THE main problem with politics today is that everyone is too short sighted. We never complete any long term plans because we chop and change too often.

Labour doesn't have any viable long-term plans though - that's why public support is dwindling so rapidly.

justasking111 · 02/07/2025 16:03

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 16:01

The Labour Party is run by Kier Starmer

You really believe that?

The labour party was formed by unions to protect the many from the few. Why do you assume that has changed?

alexalisten · 02/07/2025 16:03

@Audhvamm
PIP cuts will cause further deaths, say disabled relatives of claimants who died due to previous DWP reforms – Disability News Service https://share.google/7eN5IaYA3XZZiyohL

TorroFerney · 02/07/2025 16:04

ShouldWeGoAway · 02/07/2025 14:05

And @2dogsandabudgie& @roses2 You are assuming she knew ahead of time that something awful was going to happen.

Like I should have? I didn't know beforehand that he was going to die, I didn't know how, when and where I was going to be told, I also had to tell others (family and work colleagues).

Fortune telling powers too required for public office?

FGS, have some compassion.

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But she must have known before she went in, she didn’t take a call in the chamber during the session. You would have not gone in and got someone to pass a note to the pm.

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 16:05

AudHvamm · 02/07/2025 15:59

Competent candidates got airlifted in to other constituencies. Don't worry the men still hold the majority of seats and continued to do so throughout the time AWSs were in practice.

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Women made up a majority of Labour MPs after the 2019 election.

Coolasfeck · 02/07/2025 16:05

Reeves genuinely looks to have aged 15 years since she became Chancellor. You can tell this is all she ever wanted and it’s all gone wrong. She could have grown into the role had she inherited a stronger economy but she had to hit the ground running and wasn’t ready.

She has a poor boss who has proven multiple times that he lacks integrity. She knows she can’t trust him to fully support her. She must be in turmoil. No job is worth this much mental anguish, no matter how desperately you wanted it.

2andadog · 02/07/2025 16:05

EasternStandard · 02/07/2025 15:52

Labour are impacting people on a daily basis. Look at policies to do with NI, farmers, schools, they u turned on some others.

You might be immune but many aren’t.

I run a business with less than 50 employees, have close friends who work in financial services (with mainly farmers as clients) and also work with teachers who know how hugely underfunded the state school system is.

Labour could pay farmers a million a year and they'd still moan because it's from Labour. Brexit did them far more harm than IHT will do, and in reality it will impact very few. The grants they'll now get to look after the land, and ability to trade with the EU without tariffs and hold ups at the border are incredibly positive for the farming community who actually farm.

NI is not ideal, but we need more money into the public services. No business will go bust as a result of the increases, and it's better than taxing the employees more.

What do you think they should do?

justasking111 · 02/07/2025 16:05

Bluebellwood129 · 02/07/2025 16:02

Labour doesn't have any viable long-term plans though - that's why public support is dwindling so rapidly.

Labours biggest error reasonable or not has been not to get a handle on the boat people. To be fair neither did the conservatives. It's a very emotive subject which feeds the media endlessly.

ghostyslovesheets · 02/07/2025 16:07

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 15:49

You have sympathy for Reeves who chose her situation and caused millions to worry about finances or keeping warm in winter, but not for children having their education disrupted, leaving friends, possibly mid-course for GCSEs and having to drop subjects or try and catch up on a year’s teaching? What a peach you are.

That’s on the parents who over stretched themselves to go private and didn’t save for the well publicised vat that was coming

poor people are constantly told to work harder, get a better paid job, get a second job, take in ironing, do cleaning/ bar work/ care work on the side - so yeah there where ways to prevent it

JSMill · 02/07/2025 16:07

What are you talking about? She has a degree in PPE, the same degree Rishi Sunak had. He only resigned as chancellor in June 2022, which is hardly a good while ago. Anyway, only one third of the degree is devoted to economics so I am not sure it’s the gold standard qualification to be chancellor. There’s too many people in politics these days with flipping PPE degrees who have barely spent in time in the real world creating, achieving or building things.

Avantiagain · 02/07/2025 16:08

Badenoch's spokesperson can fuck off.

AudHvamm · 02/07/2025 16:08

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 16:05

Women made up a majority of Labour MPs after the 2019 election.

That's a bit of linguistic fudge, it was proportionate to the female population - 51%. It's now, what 46% since they were removed?

PandoraSocks · 02/07/2025 16:09

That was a very tragic case, but the poor man took his own life before the IHT announcement, which was actually not as bad as he had anticipated.

He had also been struggling to care for his wife who had severe dementia and cancer.

It pays to read beyond the headlines.

ghostyslovesheets · 02/07/2025 16:09

Dwimmer · 02/07/2025 16:05

Women made up a majority of Labour MPs after the 2019 election.

About time

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