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To think there are jobs in the world which no human being should be doing?

169 replies

ConstantIllness · 28/06/2025 09:32

Abattoir workers
Online child sex abuse investigators
Are 2 in particular that spring to mind. They require people to become numb to pain and suffering.
In anticipation of snarky replies: no, I don't know how else they should be done and yes, I know there's always been pain and suffering. It's at an industrial scale now though.
Maybe it takes a certain kind of human to do it, which is worrying in itself.

OP posts:
Oldwmn · 29/06/2025 23:52

ItDoesntHaveToBeASnowman · 28/06/2025 09:40

I think it’s a certain type of arsehole that could be a bailiff.

Oh yes, it must do. I'd hate it.

LookingAtMyBhunas · 30/06/2025 00:25

Seagullandclouds · 28/06/2025 11:09

Unfortunately small family run abattoirs that provide the lowest stress experience for livestock are closing because of increasing costs. This is forcing farmers to send their animals to factory abattoirs, which is less desirable.

Yes I completely agree with this. A family friend was a sheep farmer and stopped about 10 years ago because he wouldn’t send his animals to a factory abattoir. Prior to that it was a local abattoir staffed by people who had genuine compassion for the animals.

I genuinely don't understand this logic.
None of those sheep wanted to die. It doesn't matter how much of a 'good' life they had before, he was still raising them to be slaughtered.
I'm not even veggie but I never understand this.

LookingAtMyBhunas · 30/06/2025 00:27

WhyDoiGiveValuableTime · 29/06/2025 18:27

They are the most cruel, horrific places on earth. I've worked in several.

How can you have worked in several if they're so awful?

GarlicMile · 30/06/2025 00:28

ItDoesntHaveToBeASnowman · 28/06/2025 09:40

I think it’s a certain type of arsehole that could be a bailiff.

Both the bailiffs I've dealt with were lovely. As I'm trying to - very slowly - get myself together or a bankruptcy, there will be one more and I hope it's another calm, helpful professional.

GarlicMile · 30/06/2025 00:38

I could list dozens of jobs no human should do, but they're of a different ilk to the ones under discussion. Top of my list would include the refuse sorters who spend their days climbing over huge piles of stinking rubbish, and the workers in some countries who clear the sewers by hand (with no protective gear). These people aren't even paid a living wage. Also the miners, including children, crawling through cramped tunnels with hand chisels or working waist-deep in toxic runoffs.

OntheBorder1 · 30/06/2025 02:03

Dappy777 · 28/06/2025 13:44

I often wonder about the kinds of people who work in slaughterhouses. I have a dark suspicion many of them are sadists and psychopaths who get a kick out of it. In the future, people will look back at the meat industry with the same disgust we feel when we look back at public hangings (which were popular entertainment in the 1700s).

Oh get over yourself! I live in an agricultural supply town, in a country where agriculture is very important, and many locals work at the meat processing plants. A few decades ago they were one of the main employers. I know lots of people who worked there, and they were all perfectly normal people, many of whom spent their whole working lives there.

As for people looking back at the meat industry in disgust - dream on.

I often wonder about people who have no idea what they are talking about.

MsNevermore · 30/06/2025 02:11

People who deal with child sex offenders absolutely do not become numb to it.
My DH has worked more than his fair share of child sex abuse cases. A few years ago was a particularly awful one, where it took a team of 6 to take it in shifts, sit in a room for 8 hours at a time trawling through the endless images on the offender’s devices in an effort to find identifying features of locations etc. They had a trauma counsellor available to them 24/7 and were very well taken care of. Despite that, my DH was broken. He’d come home after one of his shifts, go to the bathroom and sob for a while.
While he’s on the job, he’s extremely professional, holds it together. But when he comes home? It often hits him like a train. And it’s not just cases involving children either. Recently he had to process a crime scene of a very messy suicide, came home and was worrying himself silly about the deceased’s wife and newborn baby.
I promise you, people who work in the messy side of law enforcement are not emotionless robots. They may appear that way while they are working, but they are very much still human with all the usual human emotions - they’re just better at hiding it than most people.

Meltdown247 · 30/06/2025 05:32

GreyCarpet · 29/06/2025 22:03

This comment kind of sums it up for me.

Lots of people who claim that certain jobs should never be done by anyone, yet we all benefit (in some way) from the people who do these jobs.

Much like people who pat themselves on the back for using electric cars without any consideration for the environmental/human impact of producing such cars.

It's so easy to cast aspersions against others when you only have half the story. Especially if it's the half that makes you look/feel good about yourself.

I don’t drive an electric car for that very reason. My 15 year old banger will do me fine. But I’ve also never been an eco zealot who complains about mining rare minerals on my iPhone made of rare minerals mined by children many of whom die doing it. What’s the answer? Just interested in how you square the circle.

GreyCarpet · 30/06/2025 07:03

Meltdown247 · 30/06/2025 05:32

I don’t drive an electric car for that very reason. My 15 year old banger will do me fine. But I’ve also never been an eco zealot who complains about mining rare minerals on my iPhone made of rare minerals mined by children many of whom die doing it. What’s the answer? Just interested in how you square the circle.

Totally agree.

And I don't know. I have a mobile phone but I don't upgrade annually. My current one is 5 years old and I'll keep it until it stops working as I have with every other. I have a similar attitude towards cars.

I don't know what the answer is because either.

But many of the reactions to certain jobs on here, and especially the character of those who do those jobs, are based on assumptions, stereotypes and ignorance.

Heyhoitsme · 30/06/2025 11:09

We had a family friend who was a police officer. He did the job of viewing child abuse videos for a year. Having no children of his own he thought he could handle it. After a year he resigned from the police and retrained for a different career. It's too much for any human being to cope with seeing such suffering day after day.

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 30/06/2025 11:11

ItDoesntHaveToBeASnowman · 28/06/2025 09:40

I think it’s a certain type of arsehole that could be a bailiff.

Absolutely

Chiseltip · 30/06/2025 11:12

DrowningInSyrup · 28/06/2025 10:26

They seem to take pleasure in it a lot of the time. I could never force my way into someone's home.

If someone owed you money and refused to pay, what would you do?

GarlicMile · 30/06/2025 11:35

titbumwillypoo · 28/06/2025 18:52

Why can't you buy consent? Surely in many professions consent is sold, a boxer consents to being violently hit for money and that's ok, a member of the armed forces consents to killing or being killed for money and we call them heroes. So why can't a woman choose to sell her consent to her own body in your opinion?

This answer's about the right to sell consent, you haven't justified buying someone else's. Should you be able to pay to beat someone up? To kill somebody? Desperate people consent to having organs removed for money, so is it ethically fine to pay them?

It's worth noting that you chose violent conflict as your comparator, btw.

CheerfulBunny · 30/06/2025 11:41

Lincslady53 · 28/06/2025 11:24

In the last episode of Clarksons Farm, he has problems with the cess pit in the new pub. As he is talking to the builders by the pit, they wind up the block and tackle and a man is pulled up from the cess pit who has been working inside it. He did have a big smile on his face, but did make me think 'Who would do a job like that?'

I immediately thought of this when I saw the title. Clarkson looks down into the pit for a second and retches, the stench literally takes his breath away then moments later they winch this grinning chap out of a hole. It's incredible.

mambojambodothetango · 30/06/2025 12:30

It's at an industrial scale now? Really? More than in Victorian factories and slums? More than in slave markets? More than in orphanages before child protection laws were a thing and when children were sent down mines and up chimneys? More than the whole of history prior to the introduction of anaesthetic?

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 30/06/2025 12:48

stayathomer · 29/06/2025 23:01

Redpeach · Yesterday 10:00

I've always thought it a shame that most of the worlds toilets are cleaned by women
if it helps both schools I went to had male cleaners and dh’s friend is a janitor/ cleaner in a school- he cleans 22 toilets 5 nights a week

True.

I see more male loo cleaners than female, even in ladies toilets.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 30/06/2025 13:06

Meltdown247 · 29/06/2025 21:53

Please tell us how you managed to type this message without the device you used having minerals mined by people?

Quite.

Can picture them all snuggled up in the evening, in their silk pyjamas, phone in hand with a diamond ring glistening on their fingers, whilst drinking tea out of their porcelain mugs, surrounded by beautifully painted walls.
Tv in the background, car parked outside etc.

One thing not to agree with it but quite another to be all high horsey when directly contributing to the demand.

titbumwillypoo · 30/06/2025 20:06

GarlicMile · 30/06/2025 11:35

This answer's about the right to sell consent, you haven't justified buying someone else's. Should you be able to pay to beat someone up? To kill somebody? Desperate people consent to having organs removed for money, so is it ethically fine to pay them?

It's worth noting that you chose violent conflict as your comparator, btw.

People buy the right to watch people beat each other up, we all buy through tax for soldiers to kill to "protect our interests abroad". In some countries people are paid to donate blood or be a surrogate because they are providing a service. The only difference with prostitution is the criminal behaviour that surrounds it. If being a pimp or trafficking women was eradicated some women would still choose sex work because it's a service they could provide and make a decent living from.
BTW i choose those professions as the extreme end of selling your body for money. I could have gone with a builder or plasterer and the damage they do to their bodies for money

ImGoneUnderground · 30/06/2025 22:56

HoppingPavlova · 28/06/2025 11:36

Online child sex abuse investigators
Are 2 in particular that spring to mind. They require people to become numb to pain and suffering

How bizarre. I think it’s the opposite. They are very aware of children’s pain and suffering, which is exactly why they do it. What they have is resilience, which you don’t seem to comprehend.

Absolutely agree with this - I am pretty sure I couldn't do it myself, but if no-one does, then surely the abusers would just get away with it, it would spread, and it will never stop? They have my admiration, and I hope these workers get the support that they may need after having to witness / see this abuse in order to bring some kind of justice to those children being abused. I doubt anyone really could ever become 'immune' to seeing the images (that I haven't seen, & cannot comprehend).

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