To think there are jobs in the world which no human being should be doing?

[ConstantIllness]

Abattoir workers
Online child sex abuse investigators
Are 2 in particular that spring to mind. They require people to become numb to pain and suffering.
In anticipation of snarky replies: no, I don't know how else they should be done and yes, I know there's always been pain and suffering. It's at an industrial scale now though.
Maybe it takes a certain kind of human to do it, which is worrying in itself.

Online child sex abuse investigators
Are 2 in particular that spring to mind. They require people to become numb to pain and suffering

How bizarre. I think it’s the opposite. They are very aware of children’s pain and suffering, which is exactly why they do it. What they have is resilience, which you don’t seem to comprehend.

So you admit these jobs need doing but then make a snarky reply and question the person who does it? Weird.

Wetherspoons employee in the airport one’s. Covered some shifts there and came back a different woman. I will say tho it gave me a kick up the arse to do well at university to the point where I never left another essay to the last minute and actually started spending significant time in the library.

I have a friend who is a police investigator friend who is a detective for sex crimes involving children, domestic abuse homicide and something else horrific. He is genuinely warm and lovely, and I once asked him about this. He knows that his job protects extremely vulnerable people and like any other caring profession, he has to disregard the awfulness in favour of believing that he is helping people.

Some people would do that job for free.

I remember when I worked in a very busy cafe . I used to go home exhausted especially when people wouldn’t pull their weight, and wouldn’t go up a gear when short staffed . And the thought of handling dirty cutlery that has been in people’s mouths . I will never work in a place like that ever again .

Just bring your own gas mask for protection, if working at close quarters...

They require people to become numb to pain and suffering.

I strongly disagree that people must be "numb to pain and suffering" to work in Child Protection. You need to be highly resilient, have strategies and support systems in place for managing stress and vicarious trauma. Being able to regulate your emotions at work does not mean you don't feel emotions. It means you can recognise them, park them temporarily to enable you to deal with the task at hand and then deal with them at the appropriate time.

I am not an "online child sexual abuse investigator" but I work with children in a safeguarding role. I have had young children describe their experiences of sexual abuse to me in very graphic detail. I have seen some appalling cases of neglect, children living in such squalid conditions that you wonder how they have survived. When these things happen I feel all the things you would expect a human being to feel. But I take a deep breath, remind myself it's not about me, and I go into 'professional mode' because that's what's needed in the moment. Then when I finish work I allow myself to feel whatever I need to feel, and I use the strategies I've developed over the last 15 years for coping with those emotions. Having wonderful colleagues and supportive managers helps.

Resilience is an important aspect.

I admire child sex abuse investigators precisely because it isn't a pleasant job but one that needs doing and they feel passionately about protecting children.

neverbeenskiing

I also work in a safeguarding role and completely agree with you.

My parents, my exh, both my children and me will work/have worked in professional roles that have safeguarding at their core. We have all encountered the very worst aspects of humanity. We can't just pretend they don't exist just because it's not very nice.

A lot of men do it because they have a sexual kink that their wives won’t partake in such as Anal sex.
Not all sex workers are trafficked or forced. Some women work independently of a pimp and have regular customers.

No financially and psychologically healthy woman with no history of trauma engages in prostitution.

and no it’s not the same as cleaning toilets

you can’t buy consent

Focus on the tens of thousands of people you've fed

How many of those here who claim to disdain these facets of life post industrial revolution would ever consider returning to a premodern standard of living

And what about the people who the bailiff are acting and probably out of pocket for thousands do you not feel sorry for them

Agree. It's actually incredibly offensive to suggest those who work in roles protecting others from harm are 'numb' to pain and suffering. In fact these roles have a high rate of emotional burn out. People who do them are typically doing them because they care enough to put the benefit of their work ahead of the toll it takes on them as people. And thank goodness there are people like that amongst us.

I want the 🤣 back!!!

I wish there was no need for those dedicated souls who have to investigate csa and sa cases. But thank god for them.
Any “job” that demands that people work in unsafe, unsanitary roles for a pittance to make life easier and more comfortable for those who are better off.

I disagree. I worked previously in critical care, you would see patients in horrific conditions from accidents. We had an increasing number of patients come in from lighting themselves on fire whilst driving on the motorway. Stuff you can’t even imagine. It’s not about being a certain type of person for the job it’s more you just adapt to it.

By accident surely? How awful, how does this even happen?

This is something that AI should hopefully help with massively over the next few years, so that rather than a human having to trawl through thousands of images, the AI can do that and then the human just has to look at a few samples to check that the AI isn't cocking it up.

You're never going to be able to get away from humans having to sense check it, because the implications of convicting someone purely based on the say so of technology is horrific, but it should reduce the sheer amount of exposure that any person is subjected to

I agree @rwalker I have friends who work in this area, not as bailiffs as such but the admin behind it. It's often people who are screwing someone else over. One was a very successful restaurant that stopped paying rent for 3 years where the building owner was an individual left out of pocket, another a shop that did the same, a family who stopped paying their mortgage but continued to pay for private school fees and berth fees for their expensive boat. The multiple warnings were ignored for years, only when the bailiffs got involved they suddenly found large sums of money to pay the debt and keep their home.

Well according to alot of people on this thread they should not be allowed to do their chosen job.

Go feminism!

Prostitution.

No, they were doing it to commit suicide, all men. I never knew this was a thing until I started there but it’s very much a thing. I feel sorry for the first responders, they are the ones that see everything first hand. At least my team get a heads up with what’s coming in and we can prepare ourselves. My friend is a detective and her Co worker went missing and sadly ended his life due to a previous case. Some of the stuff the front liners must deal with will be horrific.