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To think there are jobs in the world which no human being should be doing?

169 replies

ConstantIllness · 28/06/2025 09:32

Abattoir workers
Online child sex abuse investigators
Are 2 in particular that spring to mind. They require people to become numb to pain and suffering.
In anticipation of snarky replies: no, I don't know how else they should be done and yes, I know there's always been pain and suffering. It's at an industrial scale now though.
Maybe it takes a certain kind of human to do it, which is worrying in itself.

OP posts:
ShiningStar3 · 28/06/2025 14:22

B1anche · 28/06/2025 10:25

What a strange way of looking at it. Surely most people have sex primarily for the pleasure they get out of it, paying or not. I imagine most couples use each other as a masturbatory aid from time to time. If someone is happy to charge for it and the other is happy to pay, who cares?

If you think it's normal or healthy for someone to use their partner (or anyone) as a masturbatory aid then that's just depressing.

smallglassbottle · 28/06/2025 14:26

B1anche · 28/06/2025 10:25

What a strange way of looking at it. Surely most people have sex primarily for the pleasure they get out of it, paying or not. I imagine most couples use each other as a masturbatory aid from time to time. If someone is happy to charge for it and the other is happy to pay, who cares?

The myth of the happy hooker. There's a site (can't remember the name) where men write ratings and reviews of sex workers. The stuff that's written there is abhorrent and degrading. They literally see the women as meat with holes. Then they view all women the same way. All women and girls end up paying for it one way or another.

Charlottetharlot · 28/06/2025 14:33

ScreamingBeans · 28/06/2025 09:35

So called sex work. No one has the right to use another human being's body as a masturbatory aid.

Oh really I've got no issues with my job...any one who is forced ( into any industry) is an entirely different matter (and also disqualifies it from being a 'job').

smallglassbottle · 28/06/2025 14:33

cryptide · 28/06/2025 10:54

I always wonder about people in jobs where they are incentivised to reduce costs of things like care, housing and special educational provision. Do they really feel satisfied going home at the end of the day knowing that, because of their work, some child who desperately needs help in school is going to have to do without it? Or a vulnerable young person is sleeping out on the streets and probably being attacked, or an equally vulnerable older person is having to lie in their own urine and faeces because they have no-one to help them to the toilet?

The people who run health insurance companies abusing their workers by telling them who to turn down for payment. Same goes for veterinary insurance. People having to choose between buying food or paying for a treatment. People losing their homes in the US etc.

Iwillclasptheeagain · 28/06/2025 14:43

It is funny seeing abattoir workers branded wholesale as psychopaths.

That's a lot of psychopaths.

Clearly no one here was ever from a small town where the meat works was one of the major sources of employment.

Out of touch doesn't really cover it.

B1anche · 28/06/2025 15:13

ShiningStar3 · 28/06/2025 14:22

If you think it's normal or healthy for someone to use their partner (or anyone) as a masturbatory aid then that's just depressing.

🙄 Oh no, my partner and I purely have sexual intercourse as a way of expressing our deep love for each other and for making babies... Any sexual pleasure is unintentional. 🙄

Bridport · 28/06/2025 15:16

smallglassbottle · 28/06/2025 14:33

The people who run health insurance companies abusing their workers by telling them who to turn down for payment. Same goes for veterinary insurance. People having to choose between buying food or paying for a treatment. People losing their homes in the US etc.

Surely insurance has rules and limits that people know about when they sign up for it. They can't pay for everything.

smallglassbottle · 28/06/2025 15:43

Bridport · 28/06/2025 15:16

Surely insurance has rules and limits that people know about when they sign up for it. They can't pay for everything.

Edited

Of course, but there are sharp practices that go on and things aren't always cut and dried.

Example: my cat had cystitis and I took her to the vets who gave antibiotics and the problem subsided for a week then returned. Because I couldn't get an appointment within the two weeks required for a return visit by the insurance company, they wouldn't class it as a return of the problem and wouldn't pay even though it was absolutely a return. They got out of it on a technicality. Luckily it didn't work out as an expensive problem, but imagine if it was a human and it was a significant cost. This is why US Healthcare Insurance has such a terrible reputation. Inhaler for $600? The young patient needing this died by the way.

ShiningStar3 · 28/06/2025 15:53

B1anche · 28/06/2025 15:13

🙄 Oh no, my partner and I purely have sexual intercourse as a way of expressing our deep love for each other and for making babies... Any sexual pleasure is unintentional. 🙄

You can experience sexual pleasure without objectifying and dehumanising someone. But whatever helps you sleep at night!

B1anche · 28/06/2025 16:22

ShiningStar3 · 28/06/2025 15:53

You can experience sexual pleasure without objectifying and dehumanising someone. But whatever helps you sleep at night!

Great....so we agree!

ShiningStar3 · 28/06/2025 16:23

B1anche · 28/06/2025 16:22

Great....so we agree!

Interesting reading comprehension (or lack thereof)

henlake7 · 28/06/2025 16:30

Anybody involved in animal testing.
Pretty sure nobody needs to be doing that in this day and age.

SALaw · 28/06/2025 16:32

henlake7 · 28/06/2025 16:30

Anybody involved in animal testing.
Pretty sure nobody needs to be doing that in this day and age.

For medical purposes?

JohnofWessex · 28/06/2025 16:34

Cleaning ships engine room bilges takes a lot of beating if you want a really nasty job

Confined space full of a mix of dirty oil and water

That or going into boiler's to mend or inspect them

DontTouchRoach · 28/06/2025 16:39

ConstantIllness · 28/06/2025 09:32

Abattoir workers
Online child sex abuse investigators
Are 2 in particular that spring to mind. They require people to become numb to pain and suffering.
In anticipation of snarky replies: no, I don't know how else they should be done and yes, I know there's always been pain and suffering. It's at an industrial scale now though.
Maybe it takes a certain kind of human to do it, which is worrying in itself.

”A certain type of human” that is “worrying in itself”?

Sorry, but that’s a really fucking offensive thing to say. People do utterly horrible jobs because they’re necessary and keep people fed and children safe, and you decide that makes them “a type of human that is worrying in itself”?

Maybe be a bit more grateful, rather than implying they’re fucked in the head.

Foolsgold74 · 28/06/2025 16:46

B1anche · 28/06/2025 10:25

What a strange way of looking at it. Surely most people have sex primarily for the pleasure they get out of it, paying or not. I imagine most couples use each other as a masturbatory aid from time to time. If someone is happy to charge for it and the other is happy to pay, who cares?

I think you quickly need to wise up on your pollyanna view of prostitution.

Foolsgold74 · 28/06/2025 16:49

Ponoka7 · 28/06/2025 10:41

By that train of thought, most jobs in the hospital, MH, Police, Military shouldn't be done either, probably the prisons, as well. I've worked in child services, you are part of the prevention. It's a different mindset and thought process than you've got. I thought that this thread was going to be about children breaking rocks, manual process across Africa, teams of rubbish dump workers across the world. Or even children walking miles for water. MN is embarrassing at times.

Are people not allowed to have concerns for others in the UK? Or does everything have to be compared to Africa, India etc?

Foolsgold74 · 28/06/2025 17:06

missmollygreen · 28/06/2025 12:40

Well according to alot of people on this thread they should not be allowed to do their chosen job.

Go feminism!

Celebrating women having the freedom to become prostitutes is nothing to be proud of and is one shitty form of feminism.

FreyjaOfTheNorth · 28/06/2025 17:21

greencartbluecart · 28/06/2025 10:51

AI is used for abuse images but at some point the human needs to view - AI provides a set of possibles - it can’t go and make the final call and do the arresting and investigation. Also things evolve and sometime ai needs to be handled new training examples - given by humans

it is such a terrible hard role and so very necessary

abattoirs however - I can’t help feeling if you eat meat ( and I do ) then you should be able to handle the slaughter of the animal ( which I doubt I could - nobody is perfect )

So how do you feel about the animals killed in the harvesting of crops? You surely don’t think that huge harvesting machines stop and wait if a mouse or bird gets in the way? They get churned up with the crops.

ItDoesntHaveToBeASnowman · 28/06/2025 18:40

SALaw · 28/06/2025 10:41

What would be your proposed alternative solution to people owing money?

Whatever they do in Scotland I guess. No bailiffs here.

2024onwardsandup · 28/06/2025 18:42

ItDoesntHaveToBeASnowman · 28/06/2025 18:40

Whatever they do in Scotland I guess. No bailiffs here.

They’re basically the same thing jsut with a different name (sheriff officers)

titbumwillypoo · 28/06/2025 18:52

2024onwardsandup · 28/06/2025 12:04

No financially and psychologically healthy woman with no history of trauma engages in prostitution.

and no it’s not the same as cleaning toilets

you can’t buy consent

Why can't you buy consent? Surely in many professions consent is sold, a boxer consents to being violently hit for money and that's ok, a member of the armed forces consents to killing or being killed for money and we call them heroes. So why can't a woman choose to sell her consent to her own body in your opinion?

GreyCarpet · 28/06/2025 19:28

titbumwillypoo · 28/06/2025 18:52

Why can't you buy consent? Surely in many professions consent is sold, a boxer consents to being violently hit for money and that's ok, a member of the armed forces consents to killing or being killed for money and we call them heroes. So why can't a woman choose to sell her consent to her own body in your opinion?

I suppose a lot of it's because the engagement isn't equal. Men aren't very often harmed physically,.mentally or emotionally through using prostitutes. The prostitutes often are.

Even those who enter into it willingly often say they have difficulty forming personal relationships with men afterwards and it negatively affects their view of men in general.

scalt · 28/06/2025 19:32

Off topic, but I’ve seen a picture of Baldrick captioned “Baldrick receives the news that he is to become a rent boy, believing it to be a promotion to a junior bailiff”.

Foolsgold74 · 28/06/2025 20:24

titbumwillypoo · 28/06/2025 18:52

Why can't you buy consent? Surely in many professions consent is sold, a boxer consents to being violently hit for money and that's ok, a member of the armed forces consents to killing or being killed for money and we call them heroes. So why can't a woman choose to sell her consent to her own body in your opinion?

Why are you bending over backwards to say that it's fine for women to be prostitutes? It's not Pretty Woman you know. It's mostly rough and degrading, with men thinking they can do anything to the woman because they've paid for it. It's not going to be respectful men who go looking for a prostitute, not caring if she's trafficked or being pimped out by some other violent waste of skin. Would you be OK doing it? Knowing that you run the risk every single time of being attacked in some way. Having 10 men in an evening, one after another and the physical and emotional toll that will take on you.