To think there are jobs in the world which no human being should be doing?

[ConstantIllness]

Abattoir workers
Online child sex abuse investigators
Are 2 in particular that spring to mind. They require people to become numb to pain and suffering.
In anticipation of snarky replies: no, I don't know how else they should be done and yes, I know there's always been pain and suffering. It's at an industrial scale now though.
Maybe it takes a certain kind of human to do it, which is worrying in itself.

@ItDoesntHaveToBeASnowman this is literally the area of law I work in…in Scotland. Sheriff officers can serve attachment orders and, guess what, seize goods in settlement of a debt recovery action. Process might be different but I’m assuming the objection to the role of bailiffs is about taking property to repay debt. If you don’t like that what is the alternative?!

That's most of the workers then.

Most of the women in prostitution have been raped or sexually abused as children. The average age for a woman to enter prostitution is 15. This idea that one end of the spectrum it's the happy hookers and then at the other it's the trafficked sex slaves and then there's a bunch in between, is just not correct. The vast majority of prostituted women have been groomed, coerced or trafficked into it.

Not all women who engage in prostitution are groomed, coerced or trafficked into it, of course.

Just most of them.

100% agree

@Lesina how should debt be dealt with?

With empathy

I’d say the people not paying are the bigger arseholes

@Lesina but how do you propose unpaid debts should be enforced? You’re happy for people to have debts and not pay?

@SALaw not at all. I believe that people should repay their debts if they can. There is a lot of great work done by step change and CCCS which enable people to pay their debts over time. I think that any form of loan company be it credit card/ car finance or whatever should refer non payers to those organisations rather than employing the services of bailiffs & having worked in an industry that did resort to using bailiffs, I stand by the original point - it takes a special type of arsehole to become a bailiff. Thuggish bully boys.

Evidence points to the contrary about there being a spectrum. Nothing is ever black and white and I stand by my observation. Also ‘happy hooker’ are your words and not words I used or ever would. Like I said there are nuances which it would be disingenuous to ignore. My statement is in the specific context of what the OP asked not a general statement on prostitution as a whole.

Before the introduction of The Poll Tax Thatcher stopped the Law Commission from looking at the legislation around debt recovery.

Nearly 50 years on I suggest its something that needs to be done urgently

Have a read of Julie Bindels work on prostitution

Exactly what I was going to say. I realize that there are people out there who don't pay their debts when they can actually afford to,but equally,there are lot of people who have got into rent or council tax arrears and are generally struggling. Sending the bully boys round to scare them really isn't helpful.

What nuances?

What benefit does society gain from the existence of some women who are not coerced into it, being willing to allow abusive men to treat them as masturbatory aids?

Why does society need that "job"?

They are the most cruel, horrific places on earth. I've worked in several.

Detaining and deporting people who are "illegal" with no rules to adhere to, no warrant, no morals and operating outside the law with financial incentives outside of a normal salary. Oh and treating them inhumanely like throwing them out of planes into the sea, splitting up families and separating mothers from babies and not giving them food or medical aid when captured.

Every time I send a stool sample, I silently apologise to whoever has to look at it under a microscope.

People have different tolerance levels hence being able to do certain jobs.

I used to wretch at the smell of other people's urine but after life experience, I can handle way more.

By the time a debt is referred to a debt collection agency, people will have been given many opportunities from the person/organisation owed money to talk and come to an arrangement.

Even when a debt is referred to a debt collection agency, there will be several efforts made by them to make contact and come to a payment arrangement. And the contact is really supportive. I know, I've supported someone through it.

Bailiffs are the absolute last resort and court directed when many, many attempts have been made.

It generally only gets that far when someone refuses to engage completely.

Please tell us how you managed to type this message without the device you used having minerals mined by people?

This comment kind of sums it up for me.

Lots of people who claim that certain jobs should never be done by anyone, yet we all benefit (in some way) from the people who do these jobs.

Much like people who pat themselves on the back for using electric cars without any consideration for the environmental/human impact of producing such cars.

It's so easy to cast aspersions against others when you only have half the story. Especially if it's the half that makes you look/feel good about yourself.

Abattoirs is one

Before I left school in the 1970s, I worked part-time in the village store. There was a slaughterhouse in the village and all the workers would come in on their break to buy cakes to have with their midmorning cuppa. They wore white overalls and hats that were covered in blood and frequently had pieces of raw meat hanging off them. I didn't bat an eyelid at the time, but it obviously wouldn't happen these days.

Redpeach · Yesterday 10:00

I've always thought it a shame that most of the worlds toilets are cleaned by women
if it helps both schools I went to had male cleaners and dh’s friend is a janitor/ cleaner in a school- he cleans 22 toilets 5 nights a week

Yes, and having multiple family-run abattoirs in a particular area meant the animals didn't have to travel far. Nowadays they have to be transported much longer distances. I stopped eating meat in 2019, mainly because of how we treat our animals these days.