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That hand washed dishes should be rinsed with clean water?

269 replies

Drew79 · 24/06/2025 21:42

When hand washing, interested in how many people either -

Wash dishes then rinse with clean water, then put on the drainer to dry

Or
Wash dishes and put on the drainer with soap suds and dirty water still on them?

I don't like the idea of eating and drinking from something that's got some cleaning chemicals left on it, but my partner says I'm being fussy!

OP posts:
Screamingabdabz · 26/06/2025 10:41

Even the fairy liquid advert shows suds being left on the plates. Makes me shout at the telly every time ‘rinse them you minger!’

Yanbu.

WhereIsMyJumper · 26/06/2025 10:42

Lavender14 · 24/06/2025 22:03

I rinse if it's a glass or if they look like they need it but otherwise I don't if the water seems clean enough, I just change out my basin if its a big or very dirty load.

Same and I am still alive

UndermyShoeJoe · 26/06/2025 10:53

The I’m still alive is a funny one isn’t it. We used to do loads of things we don’t know and most people lived. Other countries do things we don’t and the other way and we go well I lived. Doesn’t mean there isn’t a better healthier or safer way depending on each things.

okydokethen · 26/06/2025 11:00

I remember my mum would never rinse dishes and it always disgusted me even when I was little and not used to any luxuries.

Starlightwarrior · 26/06/2025 11:29

I run a few inches of very hot soapy water into the sink and then leave the hot tap trickling slowly for rinsing. I'm so fast at washing that the sink never gets over full and everything is spotless.

ConnieHeart · 26/06/2025 11:43

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 26/06/2025 09:36

Of course you need to rinse them. Otherwise it’s like stepping out of the shower with soap on.

Not really as you have several litres of water in the washing up bowl when you wash up. The soap is much more concentrated when you're in the shower

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 26/06/2025 12:34

So all you rinsers follow a procedure to avoidinstant death by detertergent or dirt but probably eat at hotels, pubs, restaurants, canteens etc without a care in the world

Do you use a kettle in a hotel room......don't Google it 🤮🤮

JaninaDuszejko · 26/06/2025 14:43

AmelieSummer25 · 26/06/2025 10:39

Exactly 'no one died'. Who knows? As an example: They're not going to be able to attribute a particular persons cancer & early death solely to one thing are they. But they can say formaldehyde should not be injested, hence washing dishwater soap (and the dirt.fat.fiid/bacteria etc if holds) off the dishes is common sense! Which is sadly lacking apparently!

Hope you don't eat chips or the many other foods that naturally contain formaldehyde.

JaninaDuszejko · 26/06/2025 15:35

Starlightwarrior · 26/06/2025 11:29

I run a few inches of very hot soapy water into the sink and then leave the hot tap trickling slowly for rinsing. I'm so fast at washing that the sink never gets over full and everything is spotless.

If you're doing this then your soapy water will a) have to contain a higher concentration of soap to clean the dishes and b ) be much dirtier and therefore in more need of rinsing than someone who fills the sink full with hot soapy water, cleaning from the cleanest to the dirtiest and changing the water regularly so they are never using dirty water.

I think there's two things here. Firstly there are those who are obsessive and excessive about cleanliness who can't see that their behaviour is extreme, for example, I'm quite sure most people don't get out of a bath and walk across the bathroom to the shower to rinse themselves, if you were really so dirty that the bathwater got noticeably dirty then surely you'd shower first before having a bath for relaxation?

Secondly, there are different washing techniques that mean some people have a greater need to rinse because they are using more concentrated detergent directly onto the plates as opposed to diluting detergent in a large amount of water. Or people who put everything into the washing up bowl then take out piece by piece to clean with a soapy cloth then rinse vs cleaning one item at a time through your bowl of hot dilute soapy water and using the Brownie method so the water stays
clean for as long as possible and changing the water when it gets dirty. Even on a personal level I know if I'm washing a lot of glasses vs a single pot my washing method varies.

Also, if you rinse off the soapy suds from your glasses you are more likely to get watermarks, although that is complicated further by soft vs hard water (and it would be interesting to map different washing methods against water types because I better hard vs soft water has an impact here with hard water making it harder to effectively wash anything). Reality is (like shoes on vs shoes off in the house) there's no noticeable impact on population health based on cultural norms and so it doesn't actually matter.

Starlightwarrior · 26/06/2025 15:37

No, my plates are almost clean before I wash them as they're thoroughly scraped and rinsed - only normal amount of soap required.

Starlightwarrior · 26/06/2025 15:41

As in my washing water stays very clean and only one sink full used for washing and the trickle rinse combined. Was shown this method when working in a well known York establishment and it's a brilliant way to deal with dishes.

Meanttobeworking · 26/06/2025 15:41

I don’t rinse
Never really lived up to MN standards though (I also own a loo brush)

Natsku · 26/06/2025 15:53

Rinsing isn't so much about hygiene for me, its because if I drink from a cup that hasn't been rinsed I taste the soap and that tastes nasty (even though it smells so good...)

Wonderwall23 · 26/06/2025 16:04

I've started rinsing since a similar thread on here, which made me think about it.

It's a pain though and I can confirm there was no taste of soap or residue before and obviously not one now.

If you can taste suds it's either psychological or using far too much soap.

IsItTheBlackOneOrTheRedOne · 26/06/2025 22:29

@SeaShellsSanctuary1 Definitely not without a care. I surreptitiously polish or if it’s too gross ask for a replacement. Never use a hotel kettle.

Can I ask all of the non-rinsers: have you never poured a glass of beer for yourself or a guest 🤔?

Serpentstooth · 26/06/2025 22:38

Washing up liquid, Fairy, probably, was heavily advertised in the early days of commercial TV "Ladies at last! No more greasy dishes. No more arguing who will wash or dry. Use xxxx, the product specially for you. NO rinsing and NO wiping dry! Simply wash and drain " etc. Washing up was a horrible ordeal prior to this wonder product. Ugh.

limescale · 27/06/2025 00:24

Serpentstooth · 26/06/2025 22:38

Washing up liquid, Fairy, probably, was heavily advertised in the early days of commercial TV "Ladies at last! No more greasy dishes. No more arguing who will wash or dry. Use xxxx, the product specially for you. NO rinsing and NO wiping dry! Simply wash and drain " etc. Washing up was a horrible ordeal prior to this wonder product. Ugh.

"For hands that do dishes, can feel as soft as your face. Mild green Fairy Liquid"

I'll now look that up to see if my memory serves me correctly and the years it was broadcast.

limescale · 27/06/2025 00:27

limescale · 27/06/2025 00:24

"For hands that do dishes, can feel as soft as your face. Mild green Fairy Liquid"

I'll now look that up to see if my memory serves me correctly and the years it was broadcast.

It was "Now hands that do dishes..." and it was a classic 80s ad.

Serpentstooth · 27/06/2025 08:03

That ad was a lot earlier. I had to sing a version in German for a school thing in 1964 "hande die tische waschen weich sie gesicht mit unseren guten Fairy" or something like that 😀

ConnieHeart · 27/06/2025 08:19

IsItTheBlackOneOrTheRedOne · 26/06/2025 22:29

@SeaShellsSanctuary1 Definitely not without a care. I surreptitiously polish or if it’s too gross ask for a replacement. Never use a hotel kettle.

Can I ask all of the non-rinsers: have you never poured a glass of beer for yourself or a guest 🤔?

Edited

Yes. Why?

Drew79 · 27/06/2025 08:48

JaninaDuszejko · 26/06/2025 15:35

If you're doing this then your soapy water will a) have to contain a higher concentration of soap to clean the dishes and b ) be much dirtier and therefore in more need of rinsing than someone who fills the sink full with hot soapy water, cleaning from the cleanest to the dirtiest and changing the water regularly so they are never using dirty water.

I think there's two things here. Firstly there are those who are obsessive and excessive about cleanliness who can't see that their behaviour is extreme, for example, I'm quite sure most people don't get out of a bath and walk across the bathroom to the shower to rinse themselves, if you were really so dirty that the bathwater got noticeably dirty then surely you'd shower first before having a bath for relaxation?

Secondly, there are different washing techniques that mean some people have a greater need to rinse because they are using more concentrated detergent directly onto the plates as opposed to diluting detergent in a large amount of water. Or people who put everything into the washing up bowl then take out piece by piece to clean with a soapy cloth then rinse vs cleaning one item at a time through your bowl of hot dilute soapy water and using the Brownie method so the water stays
clean for as long as possible and changing the water when it gets dirty. Even on a personal level I know if I'm washing a lot of glasses vs a single pot my washing method varies.

Also, if you rinse off the soapy suds from your glasses you are more likely to get watermarks, although that is complicated further by soft vs hard water (and it would be interesting to map different washing methods against water types because I better hard vs soft water has an impact here with hard water making it harder to effectively wash anything). Reality is (like shoes on vs shoes off in the house) there's no noticeable impact on population health based on cultural norms and so it doesn't actually matter.

Good god, so we should be leaving suds, chemicals and dirty water on our plates and glasses, just so we don't get water marks?

I think I'll carry on doing a quick rinse thanks!

OP posts:
Irritatediron · 27/06/2025 08:57

TheTecknician · 24/06/2025 22:31

There were very bold lipstick prints on a wine glass in the pub earlier tonight (not mine) and it was supposedly a 'clean' glass. Shows how effective the glass washing machines are.

Trust me the industrial machines in pubs are good but those long lasting lipsticks are a bloody PAIN in the ass to get off glassware. In an old job they had to order a specific chemical to get it off before it went into the machine. I can understand how someone would miss this step if it's busy etc I hope you got a fresh drink and enjoyed your experience x

limescale · 27/06/2025 08:59

Serpentstooth · 27/06/2025 08:03

That ad was a lot earlier. I had to sing a version in German for a school thing in 1964 "hande die tische waschen weich sie gesicht mit unseren guten Fairy" or something like that 😀

It started earlier, but went on for a long time. The 80s is when I remember it most, I'm 54 now so was 10-20 in the 80s - peak telly time!

IsItTheBlackOneOrTheRedOne · 27/06/2025 09:21

ConnieHeart · 27/06/2025 08:19

Yes. Why?

Because an unrinsed glass will prevent a head from forming on the beer- it goes instantly flat on the top.

JennyShaw · 27/06/2025 10:57

AmelieSummer25 · 26/06/2025 10:39

Exactly 'no one died'. Who knows? As an example: They're not going to be able to attribute a particular persons cancer & early death solely to one thing are they. But they can say formaldehyde should not be injested, hence washing dishwater soap (and the dirt.fat.fiid/bacteria etc if holds) off the dishes is common sense! Which is sadly lacking apparently!

It's difficult to know which lifestyle choices have long-term effects on health. Nobody is suggesting that if you don't rinse your cups and dishes you will keel over there and then. It is only longitudinal cohort studies that can determine this and only then if they ask the right questions.

UK Biobank data revealed that high consumption of artificially sweetened beverages may be associated with a higher risk of stroke and dementia, even after adjusting for other risk factors.

You wouldn't think that artificial sweeteners could be a problem, but ingesting a small amount of detergent with every meal and every cup of tea doesn't sound like a good idea. You would expect that it would have some effect on the bacteria in your gut and the cells lining your gut.