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To refuse to commute with my colleague after hire car policy changed

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BethB89 · 24/06/2025 18:45

This is potentially a longish post so apologies!

As part of my job, this requires monthly travel to a site two hours away for an all day meeting with the other managers in our department. Until the start of this year, we’d arrange our own hire cars through our company’s partner and this would be an no cost to us. There was always four of us who needed to travel and we would have a car each.

As part of a cost cutting exercise, at the start of this year the policy changed so that we’d be required to share one car. Understandable and no issue.

The problem lies in the fact that of my other colleagues; one has left and wasn’t replaced, the other has an exception to not attend these meetings for the foreseeable future due to a personal matter - which leaves just me and a male colleague.

We’ve had three 4 hour round trips now and I can’t bite my tongue any longer.

I drove on the first occasion and he was critical of my driving, when I dropped him home he said he was glad to make it back in one piece and told me he hasn’t been that scared in a car since divorcing his ex wife who ‘struggled too’. Really rude - I have had no issues when driving and no complaints from anyone else.

To the next two journeys with him - if we are driving through a town and there’s an obviously attractive woman walking along he will slow the car down and blatantly stare at her (including a glance in the rear view mirror once we’ve passed). This makes me really uncomfortable and has happened multiple times across both journeys.

He repeatedly comments on other road users and will say ‘bet that’s a woman’ when he notices a car driving poorly.

The final straw was him opening the front windows and breaking wind really loudly in front of me.

I feel like he has no respect for me and I feel so uncomfortable now.

Would it be unreasonable of me to say I won’t travel with him again and will only attend the meeting if I drive myself there?

OP posts:
AffableApple · 25/06/2025 17:53

BethB89 · 25/06/2025 15:15

I mentioned this to my manager earlier and wasn’t overly impressed with their response.

They agree the driving comments are inappropriate but said of my colleague slowing down ‘could he just have been checking for hazards in terms of people crossing the road if a busy street’.

They said they need to seek some further guidance as it’s an unusual scenario but told me that the instruction around hire cars is extremely strict so said I shouldn’t get my hopes up that it will change.

I’ll wait and hear what comes back and then take it from there.

Well that was a waste of breath.

Straight to HR if I were you

You are being sexually harassed and bullied. You refuse to get in a car with him. You refuse to be out of pocket (so no unpaid use of your own vehicle of they decided that was a solution.)

It doesn't matter what your manager says: Everything you've said about this man should be a concern to HR in respect of you. You could cause the company a lot of bother if this continues.

Do you have a union rep?

When is the next time you need to be in a car together? Your boss needs to have got a firm answer which satisfies you after his guidance seeking by this time. Or you'll drive off without him/won't go if he's driving.

Seek advice from HR. In the hopefully unlikely event you get nowhere then pursue a grievance against the lout. I'd be tempted to do the same with your manager for his attitude too.

Gemmawemma9 · 25/06/2025 17:59

Nah. He’s absolutely vile. Sorry but if you need to fart (as per pp) and you’re in a car with a colleague you FUCKING HOLD IT IN. Hes trying to get a rise out of you.
Would your employer pay for train tickets instead of a car?

EBearhug · 25/06/2025 21:19

My car insurance specifically says it is covered for work use, such as travelling between sites (as opposed to travelling to my notmal place of work,) but I did have to ask the insurance company for it. Might have increased my insurance premium by £2 or something. Doing that and claiming travelling expenses is far cheaper than car hire.

BethB89 · 25/06/2025 22:16

Gemmawemma9 · 25/06/2025 17:59

Nah. He’s absolutely vile. Sorry but if you need to fart (as per pp) and you’re in a car with a colleague you FUCKING HOLD IT IN. Hes trying to get a rise out of you.
Would your employer pay for train tickets instead of a car?

It’s not really feasible by train (it’s possible, but at least 2 changes and would take over 3 hours when take into account the waiting around etc)

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AffableApple · 25/06/2025 22:34

You need to start from a position where this is your company's problem, not yours.

Don't accept a terrible journey as a solution/punishment for you being sexually harrassed/bullied.

They need to allow two cars.

(You know I think this should have repercussions for him and your boss too, but I'm worried you're skipping ahead so I'm reminding you of this first.)

OK will stop harassing you now.

PluckyChancer · 26/06/2025 16:05

Growlybear83 · 24/06/2025 19:49

Well you must have much better control of your sphincter than me or most people I know. I can usually manage to let a fart out silently, which the OP’s colleague may have been able to do, but I think he was being polite opening the window rather than let the smell waft around the car. I always find it funny that people on Mumsnet are happy to talk quite explicitly about their sexual practices and post photos of the most intimate parts of their bodies but the merest mention of a fart causes uproar 😆😆😆

Are you saying that you go around farting in front of your colleagues and make it into a pantomime performance?

Thought not!

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 28/06/2025 19:52

I do have my own car, but am not permitted (by my employer) to use it to drive to these meetings due to something to do with insurance. The management levels above me all have company cars so don’t have this issue.

You can have business use added to domestic car insurance policies. DH probably does 800 business miles a month, adds about £10/month to his insurance.

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