To think Palestine Action isn't a terrorist group?

[NotDarkGothicMama]

I don't agree with what they've done (breaking into military bases to vandalise planes), but I don't understand why they're being proscribed. Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil have caused far more damage to property and general annoyance.

Arrest and prosecute the people who commit criminal acts, absolutely, but this is setting the bar for branding protestors "terrorists" far too low.

This doesn’t impact freedom of speech. No one is stopping people from speaking. Proscribing the group is a measure to deal with the many violent acts they have both planned and already committed. It's not a measure taken lightly.

Do you have proof of that?

That doesn’t answer the question and this measure does impact freedom of speech. Did you see the elderly people being arrested yesterday for quietly saying they agreed with the views of Palestinian Action and condemned Israel’s genocide in Gaza? Is that not restricting freedom of speech.

Sometimes speaking and standing quietly holding a poster with a slogan up in the street is not enough especially as people are not listening. Sometimes civil disobedience is called for. I think Genocide is one such time and also climate change. It’s the people not caring about this which are the terrorists in my view.

Wow! We’re never going to agree, so let’s leave it there.

Yes they committed an act of treason IMHO when they attacked vital military equipment, and they have been videoed setting up terrorist cells and telling them to target other military bases, aswell as vital military suppliers of the UK and Ukraine just because they are owned in part or whole by Israeli companies.
They are not some nice protest group they are hardened home grown terrorists who are acting for the benefit of another country and against our countries best interest, they're dangerous and belong in jail

They've been charged with a lot more than just criminal damage, see the screenshot below it's from the article I linked to earlier

Terrorists seek to maim and kill people

Absolutely garbage. Attacking military equipment is perfectly acceptable protest action, and has been for a long as I can remember. And I'm old enough to remember Greenham Common.

If the people at Greenham Common had breached the fence and attempted to damage any equipment on there, I suspect it would have been shoot first, questions later. Nuclear weapons were held there.

If you intentionally damage military equipment, you are reducing the effectiveness of our military forces and there should be real consequences.

That's what happens when you enter a prohibited place. There are clear warnings outside miltary bases about this. Having grown up on military bases, you get used to seeing those signs

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-security-bill-factsheets/prohibited-places-national-security-bill-2022-factsheet

No they used threats violence and vandalism in an attempt to force people to adhere to the terrorist groups ideology.
That is what the law says in the uk if you don't like it complain to Tony Blair and co because it was his labour government that created that law.
PA went to crt and failed to prove that they aren't terrorists uk the uk legal definition hence the decision by both the house of comment and the house of Lords to proscribe PA as a terrorist organisation stands. They are terrorists end of.

Taken from Facebook. Does she look like a terrorist?

The people at Brize Norton face 14 years on jail.

• This offence covers cases where the person has a purpose that they know, or ought reasonably to know, is prejudicial to the safety or interests of the UK.
• It covers a broad range of actvitiy including a person accessing, entering, inspecting, passing over or under, approaching or being in the vicinity of a prohibited place (or causing an unmanned vehicle or device to do these things).
• This applies regardless of whether the person commits the offence from within the UK or abroad.
• It carries a maximum penalty of 14 years.
• Consent of the Attorney General is required to launch a prosecution.

Does she support the actions that have been taken by Palestine Action?

Oh - and supporting a group does not make you a terrorist. It could be classed as supporting terrorism though.

People can support terrorist groups without being terrorists.

She looks like a helpful idiot who is supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation and has been arrested and charged for her illegal support of said organisation

Listen and learn www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2013/sep/03/greenham-peace-camp-bringing-the-fence-down-video

She was arrested for offences against the Terrorism Act 2000

Yes and that act includes the crime of supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation.
Have you actually read the act because you don't seem to understand wht it says and covers including the crimes it created

If it happened now, they could face 14 years in jail.

Hell of a price to pay

We will likely have nuclear armed bombers in the UK at some point.

If there were protests and people tried to get on the base again, I think there would be severe consequences for anyone doing that. And well deserved.

Don't fuck about with our defences.

Thanks..

Would still be nice to know if anyone (?CPS, AG, others) has looked or is still looking at the 82 Aviation Security Act...

It's one thing damaging a train or truck, lorry, bus or whatever, it's seen as maybe just about OK these days by many to jump the fence of an MoD establishment to show you're sticking one on the man...but it needs another level of utter clod hopping stupidity/eviless to start compromising aircraft systems, especially engines...

Just incase you haven't read it see the screenshot of section 12 1A of the act and it's what your former priest has been charged with @StrikeForever

Unless you think they are supporting genocide, then, in my view, go right ahead.

For info and background..

https://www.falklandislands.com/plan-your-trip/getting-here

No prizes for guessing the aircraft type in the image at top of page...

"..The Ministry of Defence, UK, operates twice weekly flights from Brize Norton in Oxfordshire, directly to the Falklands with a refuelling stop in Ascension Island. Flights leave the UK on Sundays and Wednesdays. Return flights depart the Falklands on Tuesdays and Fridays. Civilian passengers can book seats on these flights via the Falkland Islands Government Office in London."...

Thanks for this response. I just couldn’t be arsed arguing with her any further. Well said.