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To think Palestine Action isn't a terrorist group?

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NotDarkGothicMama · 23/06/2025 07:28

I don't agree with what they've done (breaking into military bases to vandalise planes), but I don't understand why they're being proscribed. Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil have caused far more damage to property and general annoyance.

Arrest and prosecute the people who commit criminal acts, absolutely, but this is setting the bar for branding protestors "terrorists" far too low.

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Absentmindedsmile · 23/06/2025 22:56

HeisenbergMum · 23/06/2025 22:21

Of course they aren't a terrorist group. They haven't done anything to cause terror, which I believe is a fundamental requirement of a terrorist group. They haven't been violent or intimidated anyone. Neither have they threatened to be violent.

They have committed a crime but that's not the same.

On another note - Do you think that Hamas have spent millions -billions - of dollars of aid received since well before Clinton left office , on building tunnels throughout The Gaza Strip? Rather than spending it on the Palestinian people and infrastructure it was meant for?

Your view?

jcyclops · 23/06/2025 23:10

If the government proscribe Palestine Action (PA), what are they going to do about Action for Palestine (AP). What about the Popular Front for Palestine (PFP) and the People's Front for Palestine (also PFP - "Splitters") and the People's Popular Front for Palestine (PPFP).

Hoardasurass · 23/06/2025 23:13

HeisenbergMum · 23/06/2025 22:21

Of course they aren't a terrorist group. They haven't done anything to cause terror, which I believe is a fundamental requirement of a terrorist group. They haven't been violent or intimidated anyone. Neither have they threatened to be violent.

They have committed a crime but that's not the same.

I think that the police officer who was attacked with a mallet may disagree with you

SammyScrounge · 24/06/2025 01:46

Snowstorming · 23/06/2025 18:30

also we wouldn’t be “virtually on a war footing” if Israel was stopped from acting with impunity. The government is literally bombing an entire population and interfering with innocent civilians on a daily basis, yet that seems to be offensive if we bring it up?

By the same token, if Hamas had been stopped in their tracks last October none of this mess would have occurred.

Let me remind you that invading another country and torturing, murdering and kidnapping masses of their citizens is an act of war. War isn't pretty and the Israelis didn't start it.
It's all getting out of hand now but that's another thing that war does.

TempestTost · 24/06/2025 02:27

Whatever it was, they were lucky they didn't end up shot.

Idiots.

WokeyWokeyGetUpNow · 24/06/2025 14:13

babasaclover · 23/06/2025 18:30

The planes they caused £30 million worth of damage to were used to delivered aid to Gaza. So they literally are hurting innocent people and they caused terror so yeah terrorists.

the money to fix those planes will come out of the public purse. Unacceptable

This is the problem. The idiots don't consider anything further than their current thought. Damaging aid planes is pretty dim witted.

Who do they think will pay for the damage? Overstretched taxpayers that's who.

ChestnutSquash · 24/06/2025 14:54

I wish these people would go and do something useful. One of my DC spent months building shelters and toilet facilities in a Syrian refugee camp. Is currently setting up a project to conserve water and reduce the use of chemicals on crops and writing the software programme to gather data. There are lots of things people can do that don't involve destruction and disruption.

babasaclover · 24/06/2025 15:19

WokeyWokeyGetUpNow · 24/06/2025 14:13

This is the problem. The idiots don't consider anything further than their current thought. Damaging aid planes is pretty dim witted.

Who do they think will pay for the damage? Overstretched taxpayers that's who.

Exactly it’s such a huge amount of money. Could literally pay for millions of nurses / doctors / teachers. The whole country will suffer for this and they don’t even have their facts straight!!!

babasaclover · 24/06/2025 15:19

ChestnutSquash · 24/06/2025 14:54

I wish these people would go and do something useful. One of my DC spent months building shelters and toilet facilities in a Syrian refugee camp. Is currently setting up a project to conserve water and reduce the use of chemicals on crops and writing the software programme to gather data. There are lots of things people can do that don't involve destruction and disruption.

Yes, but these losers just want to make headlines they don’t actually care about the causes at all

PickyBits · 24/06/2025 16:25

babasaclover · 24/06/2025 15:19

Yes, but these losers just want to make headlines they don’t actually care about the causes at all

Yes, if they care about the Palestinian cause and Palestinian people why not arrange demos calling for Hamas to surrender and release the hostages, condemning terrorism and calling for peace.

Surely Hamas has caused nothing but trouble for Palestinians?

Imagine if a peaceful Gazan government had been elected in 2006, terrorism and the indoctrination of hate against Israel stopped, aid was used to build the economy and improve lives for Palestinians, Israel didn’t need a land, sea and air blockade to prevent terrorism because it didn’t exist, Palestinians and Israelis shared knowledge and both went in and out of Israel and Gaza freely, the West Bank saw the great improvements in life styles of Gazans and followed suit.

Just imagine……..

Hoardasurass · 25/06/2025 06:38

For anyone who thinks that PA is not a terrorist organisation may I suggest that you read this article and then explain why they still do so
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/24/palestine-action-activist-says-resistance-is-not-terrorism/

SammyScrounge · 25/06/2025 11:31

Perhaps they do have their facts straight. This group might not be entirely full of virtuous rightminded British activists. There are thousands of Middle Eastern citizens in this country and some of them will be hostile to Western nations. Perhaps they are here to damage us by commiting acts of sabotage. Many of their targets have military associations. Easy to say it's all for the good of Gaza. But it could be about disabling British defences.
In addition, the weapons used against police, the sledgehammers etc, rather.destroys their image of being righteous people trying to make the world a better place.

FutureFeelsBleak · 25/06/2025 11:47

Maybe Israel can stop murdering scores of innocent people everyday as they try to get essential aid.

DustyTangerine · 25/06/2025 12:06

FutureFeelsBleak · 25/06/2025 11:47

Maybe Israel can stop murdering scores of innocent people everyday as they try to get essential aid.

Maybe hamas can release the hostages

HairyHenrietta · 25/06/2025 12:17

SammyScrounge · 24/06/2025 01:46

By the same token, if Hamas had been stopped in their tracks last October none of this mess would have occurred.

Let me remind you that invading another country and torturing, murdering and kidnapping masses of their citizens is an act of war. War isn't pretty and the Israelis didn't start it.
It's all getting out of hand now but that's another thing that war does.

Let me remind you who invaded and who is the occupying nation 🤷🏻‍♀️

SammyScrounge · 25/06/2025 12:24

DustyTangerine · 25/06/2025 12:06

Maybe hamas can release the hostages

God knows what the hostages are going through. I think of them sometimes, especially the woman with the two red haired babies.
This is what I don't understand about activists -how can they support Hamas who are responsible for their miserable deaths?

HairyHenrietta · 25/06/2025 12:30

SammyScrounge · 25/06/2025 12:24

God knows what the hostages are going through. I think of them sometimes, especially the woman with the two red haired babies.
This is what I don't understand about activists -how can they support Hamas who are responsible for their miserable deaths?

I also think of the Israeli hostages sometimes, but I also think of the many Palestinian hostages many of them also very young and all the suffering in Gaza. Do you think of these people too or are your thoughts only for suffering Israelis?

ssd · 25/06/2025 12:35

SammyScrounge · 25/06/2025 12:24

God knows what the hostages are going through. I think of them sometimes, especially the woman with the two red haired babies.
This is what I don't understand about activists -how can they support Hamas who are responsible for their miserable deaths?

Why do you equate being an activist with immediately supporting hamas?

I can imagine very very few support hamas.

ssd · 25/06/2025 12:37

DustyTangerine · 25/06/2025 12:06

Maybe hamas can release the hostages

Maybe Israel can release the thousands of prisoners held in prisons without trial?

notimagain · 02/07/2025 07:45

Lets not kid ourselves or try to kid others..

They do not appear to be squeaky clean either, some of the recent actions carried out in their name have allegedly involved violence against police officers and there could have been serious consequences to their actions at Brize..

So personally I don't really care how they are labelled as long as serious prison sentences are handed to any of their supporters who are found guilty of engaging in vandalism, criminal damage or sabotage.

Dangermoo · 02/07/2025 08:05

They are on a par with Antifa, that loathsome hard left group, who like to harrass women.

noblegiraffe · 02/07/2025 09:00

I think they are like a left wing version of Tommy Robinson and his merry band of thugs, but with even more self-righteousness.

TheNoonBell · 02/07/2025 09:23

Attacking the police with hammers is violence. Something the PA supporters always fail to mention.

"During the incident, two officers were assaulted with a sledgehammer, police said.
One of the officers was taken to hospital with injuries to her back and has since been discharged, while the other officer received medical treatment at the scene after being struck on the back of his legs.
An employee of the business was also treated by paramedics for an injury to their head.
Police said six people aged 20-30 years old were arrested on suspicion of a range of offences including Section 18 wounding with intent, aggravated burglary, burglary and criminal damage.

Videos shared to social media by campaign group Palestine Action showed people using tools to cut into the warehouse, damaging equipment inside the building and spraying red paint on the premises."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mnnje4wlro

A screenshot of the police van seen on the Elbit Systems UK site. The van is a large white vehicle with small windows and a chevron pattern across the back. A figure wearing black with a white helmet can be seen in the lower right corner of the image h...

Police officer hit with sledgehammer near Bristol

Police say officers seized sledgehammers, axes, whips and other homemade weapons.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mnnje4wlro

notimagain · 02/07/2025 09:32

As well as the assaults on police officers given what the possible consequences were to the Brize event there appears to be some very meaty sentencing possible by way of one of /the Aviation Security Act(s).

Whether the CPS will actually be brave enough to use that legislation ??? ..

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