To think Palestine Action isn't a terrorist group?

[NotDarkGothicMama]

I don't agree with what they've done (breaking into military bases to vandalise planes), but I don't understand why they're being proscribed. Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil have caused far more damage to property and general annoyance.

Arrest and prosecute the people who commit criminal acts, absolutely, but this is setting the bar for branding protestors "terrorists" far too low.

The RAF doesn't have cargo planes so they can deliver sweeties to little children. The purpose of these planes is to support military objectives, which frequently include killing people: I'm not sure whether these planes themselves are armed or carrying bombs is really that important.

So they interfere with planes, that then have issues and crash. Maybe they land on a school or a housing estate. The pilot ejects safely but 20 people on the ground are killed.

That sounds like terrorism to me.

Demonstrating outside an airbase - eg Greenham peace women - is protesting, and was effective in the end. Mucking around with a few million £s worth of military jet is terrorism.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g83l33wdeo.amp

Good.

‘Palestine Action called the government's action "unhinged".’ Similar no. of brain cells to the just stop oil contingent. You couldn’t make it up.

One doesn’t sabotage military jets and expect a thank you card in the post.

I have no idea, but it's actually several posters who seem to think this.

Attacking military equipment when we're virtually on a war footing is treason.Those jets are for refuelling other jets in the air. The RAF will need them in the middle east if the current situation escalates. There are British soldiers stationed in Qatar who should not.be.put at risk because some smug self satisfied activists.crave attention.

That airbase is used to supply Akrateri in Cyprus which is involved in spying missions over Gaza to target individuals. The damage was designed to stop that supply. We’re complicit in the genocide in Gaza. Palestinian Action are trying to prevent a more serious crime by damaging the weapon.

*and have nothing better to do

These are the planes that have been carrying food aid. Spraying paint into the engines has destroyed them.

Palestine Action is not a terrorist group.

if that’s all you need to do to be labelled a terrorist, then Israel should be labelled as a whole terrorist state for its own actions.

Typical oppressor behaviour - always wanting its victims to be docile and quiet. Resistance is not always peaceful.

The planes they caused £30 million worth of damage to were used to delivered aid to Gaza. So they literally are hurting innocent people and they caused terror so yeah terrorists.

the money to fix those planes will come out of the public purse. Unacceptable

also we wouldn’t be “virtually on a war footing” if Israel was stopped from acting with impunity. The government is literally bombing an entire population and interfering with innocent civilians on a daily basis, yet that seems to be offensive if we bring it up?

Educate yourself please. It’s £30 million!!!!!

Costs of damage from Palestine Action attacks at RAF Brize Norton will total 'at least £30million'
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/costs-damage-palestine-action-attacks-raf-brize-norton-30-million

Pathetic isn’t it. People wang on and on when they don’t have the facts. I suppose they have ‘their truth’ 🙄.

Where are you getting this classified military information about who we are spying on and what we do with that information and who we give it to?
Is it the same person who told you that PA damaged bombers who were about to go bomb innocent civilians by any chance

Thankyou for this link. This thread's been a really interesting read. I've read it all and Yvette Cooper's statement and changed my mind. I found these parts of her statement particularly eye-opening:

...The Sherif, in passing custodial sentences for the attackers’ violent crimes, spoke of the panic among staff who feared for their safety as pyrotechnics and smoke bombs were thrown in the area where they were evacuating...

...In late 2023, Palestine Action released “The Underground Manual”. The document encourages the creation of cells; provides practical guidance on how to carry out activity against private companies and government buildings on behalf of Palestine Action; and provides a link to a website which contains a map of specific targets across the UK...

I don't support Iran or Hamas or the Israeli government BTW. I do want to be able to engage in lawful protest if I want to, including acts civil disobedience, without being labelled a terrorist though.

Perhaps when people are made to financially pay for their actions they'll stop. Calculate how much their damage has cost, I don't care if it's in the millions, and recoup that money from them at source off their benefits or salary. I dont mean a measly fiver a week, i mean a good chunk of their money. I also don't care if it puts them below the poverty line. They've chosen to forfeit that money.

You think Israel is to blame for Russia?

I assume this will go when the law is in place. Which is good.

Are you receiving top secret military information? If so why are you documenting it on Mumsnet?
*It’s Akrotiri btw

I don't think they are, they didn't even know the damaged planes weren't bombers.

Why do you keep capitalising the F? The BBC haven't. The article reports from the court hearing and tells us in some detail what publications and literature he had, what web pages he had looked at - if there was evidence that Mair was a member of or supported the group Britain First the prosecution would have mentioned it.

😂 ahh, that’s that theory in the bin..

I agree about the treason point. No country which follows the rule of law can accept a situation where extremist activists are allowed to trespass on military bases and damage planes with impunity.

I hope the CPS seek a treason conviction here and these individuals go away for a long time to put a stop to this nonsense.

That will not happen, though they may be convicted of terrorist offences