People no longer have pride In how they drsss.

[Welliesandtweed]

I've increasingly noticed that people are getting scruffier and scruffier in how they dress.

Some of the secretaries where I work come in, In trainers, band t shirts, coloured hair, loose fitting, cheap tops. I wouldn't do the garden in some of the outfits I see. They aren't typically patient facing but on occasion are. I think it really lacks professionalism to turn up scruffy to work.

Same for people out for an evening meal in jogging bottoms.

On Saturday we had sports day at school and every woman was in a nice dress and men in chinos / short chinos and shirts. Children all in proper PE uniform. It was so refreshing to see.

I have recently gained weight. I know exactly how much I weigh and what clothes size I am. I dress for comfort and pleasure.

I'd rather people went to the theatre in comfortable clothing than feel it was some elitist institute 🤷‍♀️

If anyone has any recommendations on the back of this thread for comfortable trousers that are smart enough for work but no digging in waistband to sit in all day I would appreciate it!
I’ve got the Hollister livvy which are great but after a pair of black ones and need some stretch/give/elastic around the stomach
I’ve been living in joggers WFH but start a new job. Dress code smart casual

If you judge people by how they dress, they aren't the problem.

What do you wear to a job interview?

It isn't elitist to dress with flair and style. It seems to come naturally to Italian girls.

What makes you think this poster is job seeking?

You know this is an online chat forum, right? Not a letter to a government official?
The odd typo shouldn't impact on your ability to understand what's been written/said here.
And, if it does, that's obviously a you problem, not an OP problem...

@Welliesandtweed

I completely agree with you, and I’m a few years younger than you.

So many people seem to have no sense of occasion anymore in the way they dress and they only offer one homogenous look regardless as to whether they are putting their bins out, going to work or are going for a family meal. I find it incredibly disrespectful.

I’m not bragging, but I make an effort and take pride in my appearance and receive many compliments on my clothing and my general appearance - which for me is always a lovely bonus. I am comfortable in my clothing which is in contrast to what others have been saying about dressing a certain way. I truly believe the reason I’m complimented so often is because people are surprised to see someone appropriately dressed anymore. I don’t eat a suit for example and never have, but will wear a smart skirt or dress with a blouse or top and a jacket most of the time - and my clothes are modern and on trend, I’m not old fashioned.

I work with a woman in a senior role who wears tracksuits and trainers every day, regardless as to whom she is meeting or how serious the content may be, and we deal with really serious and important subjects. I’ve also been out for dinner and for cocktails and a couple of friends have showed up wearing the same casual clothing as what they wear on the school run. I just find it really rather odd.

The psychology of clothing and of colours is really important, and I certainly know that what I wear really affects how I hold myself, and how confident I feel - but also how seriously others will take me.

This thread has hit two bingo full houses

Tell me that you are snob without telling me that you are a snob

Tell me that you are insecure without telling me that you are insecure!

The point of the question is whether the poster is going to be as scruffy IF she were going for an interview. People should adapt their attire to the occasion and those that don't do so at their own peril.

My son’s graduation picture is ruined for me because the person presenting it was wearing trainers. Comfortable shoes ok but these shoes were not ok. :(

You held up a mirror OP and they didn't like the reflection.

I disagree with you OP - and I'm in my 60s.

I think it's great that people can now be comfortable, and as long as they are clean and tidy there is nothing at all wrong with casual clothing. As someone who worked in offices all my working life and never wore either make up or high heels I am cheering on those who can now also wear something which they feel comfortable in. In no way does it affect their professionalism.

As long as the person does the job well I don't see a problem. Although, if you are meeting clients I think the casual clothes should at least be smart. I would take more issue if someone had poor hygiene because it impacts others.

Wow. So many people over reacting to this post. Must be a bunch of scruffs 🤣

I think you're wrong about clothing expressing pride.

What you likely saw at the sports day and the afternoon tea was people trying to keep up with the Joneses at a private school.

You also saw people who weren't heading straight out to walk the dogs, muck out the ponies, or off to the night shift immediately afterwards.

People can do a jolly good job in a band T-shirt, and people with piercings or visible tattoos or coloured hair in a patient facing role can often help patients feel less anxious and more at home if they or their friends and family favour that sort of look. Patients can have more confidence that the hospital is really able to see them and hear them when the employees look or sound like them. White coat syndrome is a real barrier to delivery of effective healthcare.

I don't. I should have said, "What would you wear to a job interview."

I'm 60 - old enough to remember the days of obligatory heels, makeup, and nylons for women in offices. No fun in the baking heat of the northern midwest US. I don't recall any of that nonsense making me or any of my colleagues from those days better at our jobs.

It seriously saddens me how much focus people put on physical appearance. Seems so incredibly shallow and unimportant, to me. With everything that's going on in the world too. 😢

One thing I learnt from my Ex....never dress down for anyone and especially not just to fit in. But if that's how you like to dress, that's fine. Some people just feel better making a bit of effort. Nothing wrong with that either. Either way, as long as it's what makes you feel comfortable in your own skin. I like to have a minimum standard but always appropriate. Maximum for special occasions. Otherwise what's the point of having some nice clothes?
I have noticed that everyone generally looks drab and scruffy in London. It's like they're dressing down to fit in. Become invisible in some way. That's just an observation of mine so no need for bitchy replies.

This post could have been written 75 years ago. Just replace t-shirts and coloured hair with ‘back seam on their stockings are not straight’ therefore they must be slovenly slatterns who are sloppy with their work. We look back and think that mentality was ridiculous, and this is no different.

How about going to work with no knickers on? Would that be OK as long as you got your job done? Or nipples showing as you're more comfortable not wearing a bra? I suppose it depends on what job you do! 🤣🤣🤣

You're out of touch. Your thoughts are in line with MILS mother- who would be touching 100.
Her daughter who is in her 60s, and friends were discussing exactly this the other day- and their sentiments were that they were thankful the stuffy times that their parents lived in were over, and that they chose relative comfort over what their parents ever did..

It is elitist to make people feel they have to dress up a certain way

People can have flair and style without being in dresses or expensive clothes etc