People no longer have pride In how they drsss.

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I've increasingly noticed that people are getting scruffier and scruffier in how they dress.

Some of the secretaries where I work come in, In trainers, band t shirts, coloured hair, loose fitting, cheap tops. I wouldn't do the garden in some of the outfits I see. They aren't typically patient facing but on occasion are. I think it really lacks professionalism to turn up scruffy to work.

Same for people out for an evening meal in jogging bottoms.

On Saturday we had sports day at school and every woman was in a nice dress and men in chinos / short chinos and shirts. Children all in proper PE uniform. It was so refreshing to see.

I'd class myself as alternative / elder emo. Greebo, back in the day. I'm 35 😉

@TerribleTimingReally Sandles and heals!!

I spelt sandals correctly but not heals 😂. I didn't pull the OP up on her spelling mistake though.

I used to be a secretary and wasn’t paid enough to buy super smart clothes and pay my bills. I wore what I could afford at the time but it was definitely in the office category.

I feel like you’ve posted on the wrong thread. Almost all the ‘I dress casual’ posts are saying ‘there’s more than one way to look and feel good’. The only attitude I’m seeing is from those who can’t accept others might not feel the same as them. And that includes you OP.

I haven't heard the word 'greebo' in years. I was a Goth. The sentimental/rose-tinted nostalgic side of me wishes I still were, but that look is now way too high-maintenance for me. I probably more resemble an ageing hippy. Still have the Sisters/Neph/Bauhaus et al on my playlist, though!.And the band t-shirt fans upthread have really made me want a 'Merciful Release' top ...

What on earth is a greebo?

Late to the thread but seeing as you still can't apply any critical thinking, every generation's fashion evolves. What you (and possibly mid 40's me) might have considered casual in our time is now smart casual. Going out in the late 90's, lads had to have shoes and and buttoned shirt and no chance of getting in wearing jeans, now the more holes in the jeans the more trendy they are. Just life isn't it. Whilst I wouldn't dress like that, I certain wouldn't call it scruffy as I recognise the trends.

"Greebo" can refer to a few different things. Primarily, it's a British slang term for a fan of rock or punk music, often associated with an unkempt or "dirty" appearance, and sometimes linked to the Midlands region. It can also be a term for a greaser or biker subculture. Additionally, "Greebo" is the name of a character, a foul-tempered cat, in Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels. Finally, Greebo Games is a company that produces miniatures for tabletop games.'

Baggy ripped jeans, band tees, lots of black, eyeliner for days, chains and a trusty pair of converse, docs, vans or new rocks!

We used to hang around in cemeteries as well. To really add to the stereotype

Well, it depended on where you were going? In the clubs I went to a guy in a buttoned shirt, trousers and shoes would have been assumed to have taken a wrong turning somewhere.

Haha yes! I went on a nignt out with some younger colleagues about 10 years ago. When I asked them what kind of outfit I should wear, as I didn't really have any "going out clothes" they looked at me like I'd grown an extra head and suggested jeans and trainers! I hadn't been out in so long I hadn't realised they were allowed in clubs.

A nice dress, bless you, OP.
My style is "looks like a bin bag, roughly tied with strong and thrown over a fence".
I wouldn't wear ripped or dirty clothes to work, but that's it. I don't even wear make up or jewellery, I cut my own hair.
I'm in a patient facing role, earning 6 figures. Noone gives a crap about whether I am in a naice dress or not at work, thank God.

And what greebo or emo people wear is just as much of a uniform as any other.

The issue on MN I've noticed that if someone says they only wear dresses is that it invariably leads to a post after post saying they're so uncomfortable/ impractical/ can't stand them/ you can't do x, y and, z in them. The implication being "silly little women" wearing their girly clothes.

And there's the mysoginistic nonsense on this thread about how women wearing masculine signified clothes are strong and powerful.

I have some lovely comfy dresses. I love the designers who do fuller bust dresses so they fit nicely all over. I don't wear them for work though. Mostly males at work and nobody gets dressed up unless meeting clients, work meals etc.

I do realise not all dresses are classed as dressed up. I do love jeans though.

So?

It very much was back in the 00s

Now I just wear what I'm most comfortable in that I like the look of.

Because there’s been people on here saying that what they wear is so edgy and different and alternative. But we all dress, more or less, as the tribe we are part of.

I was not that person

Given that real terms pay hasn't grown in over 15 years. I think employers have lost the right to complain about staff not going to work in designer suits.

Apologies. I was replying to @DoctorRoseReturns ’s “so?” and quoted the wrong person because you’d both quoted me and I have jelly for brains!

I don't have a dress code at work, but anyone wearing a smart dress or chinos would probably be laughed at be dressed fairly unsuitably to do the job. I always think it's stupid that school 6th formers are told to wear "business attire" to prepare for the world of work, when very few jobs actually require you to dress like that. Particularly practical subjects - art, woodwork, cookery etc - a friends son was pouring concrete, wearing a suit and tie, which is all kinds of ridiculous! Has anyone had a plumber or decorator turn up in a shirt and chinos?

I dress smartly for weddings, funerals and other occasions where generally you are expected to look smart/more formal but the rest of the time I tend to wear tshirts (not band tshirts) jeans, shorts trainers etc. Always clean, not tatty or worn out, so imo not scruffy, but casual. I have been out to the supermarket (petrol station) once in PJs but it was a very last minute dash and I wouldn't intentionally do it again!

No

They are using the term Alternative because it's the name of the subculture

And explaining what they wear because OP (and others) are being so horrified about people wearing something other than naice dresses etc

They aren't being all "edgy'