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to ask you, if you are British born, to answer these six questions without Googling?

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IceLollyMolly · 22/06/2025 11:56

Just a small experiment. Not a marketing gimmick, but I will explain shortly, once a few people have answered. Or not answered!
If you are British born, can you answer these five questions without Googling or using any other materials for the answers?
(1) Who was the first person to circumnavigate the world without stopping?
(2) What date was the Battle of Boyne?
(3) How many local authorities are there in London?
(4) Which composer composed music for George the I?
(5) What significant event took place in 1284?
(6) Who is the paralympian who won six gold medals over two Paralympic Games?

OP posts:
Shetlands · 23/06/2025 08:43

As you've amended Q1 to say single-handed, I'm going with my original answer of Sir Francis Chichester - I can remember when he returned to a huge welcome - flotilla of boats, helicopters, flares, dockside full of cheering people.

sashh · 23/06/2025 08:49

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 22/06/2025 12:04

Oh, a lot of the questions for that test are ridiculous. I’ve known a few people at work studying for it and half the questions I don’t know the answer to, and my general knowledge is usually ok.

As a British born person:

  1. No idea. Think the first person to circumnavigate the world was Magellan but can’t think why he’d feature in a Life in the UK test
  2. I know it’s commemorated on 12 July but don’t know the year
  3. No idea, and why is this even relevant unless you live in London?
  4. Handel! Only one I’m confident of…
  5. Something to do with England taking over Wales I think?
  6. I’d guess Tanni Grey-Thompson, David Weir or Ellie Simmonds but no idea really

Magellan stopped off a few times. It's Robin Knox-Johnston in the late 1960s.

I do know these but only because someone posted them quite recently.

bugalugs45 · 23/06/2025 08:53

Thestreets · 22/06/2025 12:00

I couldn't answer one and I am British born and raised 🙈

Same 🤣

fiveIsNewOne · 23/06/2025 09:08

I like that the Living in Britain test preparation teaches that the British culture values paralympians and that the Britons are still obsessed about sea sailors - who enabled colonisation.

Multiple choice helps, as often you can recognise some of the wrong answers and narrow the choice.

Newnamesagain · 23/06/2025 09:48

fiveIsNewOne · 23/06/2025 09:08

I like that the Living in Britain test preparation teaches that the British culture values paralympians and that the Britons are still obsessed about sea sailors - who enabled colonisation.

Multiple choice helps, as often you can recognise some of the wrong answers and narrow the choice.

We actually founded the Paralympics. They were started in Stoke Mandeville with injured service people from WW2 before growing into what they are today. A related fun fact - Stoke Mandeville is still one of the best hospitals in the world for spinal cord injuries.

From what I can tell the founder of the Paralympics was a German Jewish doctor who'd moved to the UK for obvious reasons.

verityveritas · 23/06/2025 09:51

All but the one with London boroughs. Then again I’m not a Londoner! 1248, George 1, battle of the Boyne, circumnavigation were all covered in school.
the question over 1248 is interesting though, as a few notable events happened that year, I would have thought 1215 would have been more important though, as it changed English political and social history forever. More so than 1248, I would have thought, but I’m no historian.

MiddleAgedDread · 23/06/2025 09:57

(1) Who was the first person to circumnavigate the world without stopping? Christopher Columbus?
(2) What date was the Battle of Boyne? Not a clue, couldn't even place it in a century
(3) How many local authorities are there in London? 32 (wild guess!)
(4) Which composer composed music for George the I? Elgar?
(5) What significant event took place in 1284? No idea
(6) Who is the paralympian who won six gold medals over two Paralympic Games? Dame Sarah Storey?

BitOutOfPractice · 23/06/2025 10:58

verityveritas · 23/06/2025 09:51

All but the one with London boroughs. Then again I’m not a Londoner! 1248, George 1, battle of the Boyne, circumnavigation were all covered in school.
the question over 1248 is interesting though, as a few notable events happened that year, I would have thought 1215 would have been more important though, as it changed English political and social history forever. More so than 1248, I would have thought, but I’m no historian.

But did the Magna Carta really change anything in England? It certainly didn't change a damn thing for peasants at all, and not much for anyone else either, as the king almost immediately reneged on it.

And the citizenship test is British, not English.

Beautifuldog · 23/06/2025 13:40

So do we infer that it’s deliberately difficult to pass & inherently obtuse for political reasons? Or is it just poorly thought out & hardly representative of British history & culture?

rubicustellitall · 23/06/2025 14:13

mid 50s and i got 2 ..omg!

fiveIsNewOne · 23/06/2025 14:16

Beautifuldog · 23/06/2025 13:40

So do we infer that it’s deliberately difficult to pass & inherently obtuse for political reasons? Or is it just poorly thought out & hardly representative of British history & culture?

We can infer that taking very few multiple choice questions from a set, removing the multiple choice options and loosing some parts of the wording while doing so is misinterpreting the original test so much that any subsequent discussion about test's relevance is impossible.

fiveIsNewOne · 23/06/2025 14:17

Beautifuldog · 23/06/2025 13:40

So do we infer that it’s deliberately difficult to pass & inherently obtuse for political reasons? Or is it just poorly thought out & hardly representative of British history & culture?

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Edit: Accidental double post

Digdongdoo · 23/06/2025 14:24

fiveIsNewOne · 23/06/2025 14:16

We can infer that taking very few multiple choice questions from a set, removing the multiple choice options and loosing some parts of the wording while doing so is misinterpreting the original test so much that any subsequent discussion about test's relevance is impossible.

You don't have to form an opinion based upon OPs examples alone you know? It's really easy to google it.

Masmavi · 23/06/2025 14:27

Have you read the handbook cover to cover? I’m British and was getting around 19 before I read the book (to help out a friend with her test), then I got them all. I agree it’s an odd test but there are no trick questions and they don’t test anything that’s not in the book.

Digdongdoo · 23/06/2025 14:29

Beautifuldog · 23/06/2025 13:40

So do we infer that it’s deliberately difficult to pass & inherently obtuse for political reasons? Or is it just poorly thought out & hardly representative of British history & culture?

It's a tick box exercise IMO. It's not particularly difficult to pass assuming you can read, just a lot of repetition and rote learning. But it's not a good reflection of anyone's understanding of, or integration into, modern Britain. If it were intended to teach migrants anything, it's far too late given most have lived here a decade plus by the time this test is taken. Should be redesigned as a general knowledge test of things (cultural norms, laws, recent history, important dates etc) that should have picked up on during time living here - a demonstration of integration.

JustAndrea · 23/06/2025 14:47

How does this even relate to life in the UK? It would be far more appropriate to ask;

  1. Do you speak English?
  2. What can you personally contribute to this country?
Digdongdoo · 23/06/2025 14:48

JustAndrea · 23/06/2025 14:47

How does this even relate to life in the UK? It would be far more appropriate to ask;

  1. Do you speak English?
  2. What can you personally contribute to this country?

You have to show all that before you can take this test.

oldwhyno · 23/06/2025 15:05
  1. No idea. (2) No idea. (3) Why would I need to know this? (4) Don't care (5) I'm not really good with dates. (6) Tanny Gray Thompson?
Papyrophile · 23/06/2025 15:40

Just took the online quiz, and scored 92%! But I think the OP deliberately picked the obscure difficult questions because I only got 50% on her version.

Comefromaway · 23/06/2025 16:22

I got 67% on an online version

CandidRaven · 23/06/2025 16:40

No idea on any of them 😂

Insidelaurashed · 23/06/2025 16:49

I can't answer any of those. British, family have always been from here etc. (Also don't think someone is any less British if their family hasn't always been from here, just to be clear!)

I don't have an issue with the idea of a life in the UK test. I do have an issue with the content. Ask questions about 'where would you go if you needed help with XYZ?' 'What can you do at your local library?' 'Which of these local clubs are a good way for a child to make friends?' etc etc. Questions that actually help people integrate into a new area, who may struggle because they're in a new area.

Wakeywakey678 · 23/06/2025 16:53

IceLollyMolly · 22/06/2025 11:56

Just a small experiment. Not a marketing gimmick, but I will explain shortly, once a few people have answered. Or not answered!
If you are British born, can you answer these five questions without Googling or using any other materials for the answers?
(1) Who was the first person to circumnavigate the world without stopping?
(2) What date was the Battle of Boyne?
(3) How many local authorities are there in London?
(4) Which composer composed music for George the I?
(5) What significant event took place in 1284?
(6) Who is the paralympian who won six gold medals over two Paralympic Games?

No idea to any of them. What does this have to do with being British-born 🤔

Digdongdoo · 23/06/2025 17:48

Papyrophile · 23/06/2025 15:40

Just took the online quiz, and scored 92%! But I think the OP deliberately picked the obscure difficult questions because I only got 50% on her version.

Depends which questions you end up with. There's hundreds and it's random. You might not do as well next time. There's loads of really obscure ones.

fiveIsNewOne · 23/06/2025 18:20

Digdongdoo · 23/06/2025 14:24

You don't have to form an opinion based upon OPs examples alone you know? It's really easy to google it.

Sure.
Just any discussion in this thread will be confused by not knowing who googled and who thinks that the OP is somehow representative.

I don't consider the test in general deliberately obtuse - having a small book to learn and prove it in multiple choice quiz is the most user friendly way of testing knowledge, or better said literacy and learning ability, which is big part of the purpose. Obtuse would look differently.

Whether it is misguided... it needs to test facts. Many of the suggestions in this thread aren't really facts, just habits, and I don't believe MN would agree on answers. I still consider questions about paralympics and seafarers as relatively good representatives of the British culture. Yes, the six golden medals are a bit random, but it is exact description of one of the 16 names of British sports people in the book, so it isn't out of nowhere, it is "learn this list and than pick which name from the list are we asking about" type of question.

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