Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?

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Genuinely finding it hard to sleep now having seen the news that Tehran - a population of 10 million are being urgently advised to leave. Is anyone else feeling very concerned (and nervous) watching what is now taking place in the ME? It is being reported that Israel have ‘full ariel control’ of Iran?

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-has-full-control-of-tehrans-airspace-over-100-missile-launchers-destroyed-idf-says/

www.euronews.com/2025/06/17/trump-hints-at-major-israeli-offensive-as-he-urges-all-of-tehran-to-evacuate-immediately

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee

Very very lazy and offensive comments.
Get a new slogan
maybe try:
no bombing, no news?
no war crimes, no news?
no genocidal intent, no news?
no journalists, no news (this is why Israel is deliberately targeting the journalists of course)

Thank you for keeping the posts polite and mostly open to discussion. It’s the one discussion that ignites so much emotion understandably, but its helpful to debate the issues properly and from all sides.

I wonder if we should also consider the concept that all sides were inching towards a peaceful solution, and maybe it’s Iran that is blocking peace? The ideology that Israel needs to be obliterated from the planet is extreme and unhelpful, if that is their central negotiating position then it’s no wonder we have landed here today. That said they may have been more flexible - who knows.

I don’t personally buy the nuclear excuse. It was the same one wheeled out under the Bush administration in Iraq, and rightfully viewed with suspicion.

@Thegreyhound which ‘untruth’ did I assert? Apart from disagreeing with you.

Chickenrun86 · Today 06:40
“Hamas are the government, we label them a terrorist organisation.”

I am scared if YOU have a right to vote🤔

Iran probably have lied and lied and lied about their nuclear programme, they could easily get a ballistic missle from Russia or elsewhere and the Israelis do not wish to take the chance.

Netanyahu saying ordinary Persians should rise up is for the birds. They would be killed by the IRG and those grim enforcers and informers that pepper ordinarily Iranian society would be busy telling them where to look.

This was always going to have to happen to Iran. They have openly committed to the destruction of Jews and Israel. It absolutely had to be prevented from having nuclear weapon capability. It is a violent and hideous regime. Every western country should be , and probably is, relieved that Israel is dealing with this.

Femwashing the actions of the (ultra male) industrial capitalist war complex as somehow an act of liberation for women is absolutely dreadful. Not my kind of feminism! The women of Iran were already doing an excellent job for themselves of resisting and pushing back against the regime. Of course it will be great to see the back of this regime but if your liberation is brought to you by the US and Israel it might not be all that liberating

Why does Israel - which has nuclear weapons - get to unilaterally decide which other countries have nuclear weapons programmes? It would be hard to argue that this is legitimate self-defence (although it's clearly the route they'll go down and probably get away with it because few other countries have their appetite for war), so it appears to be breaking international law. It's not doing the world a favour by getting rid of Iran's nuclear programme, unless it's planning to get rid of its own, because at the moment the country causing the most destruction and death to other countries appears to be....Israel.

I don't like the regime in Iran either but Israel - a hard right government - deciding which regimes are 'allowed' or not doesn't exactly set a good precedent.

You do you. ‘Femwashing’ sounds like new nonsense and an excuse to gloss over regimes harming women.

It’s not just Israel who has decided that Iran can’t have nuclear weapons ( though admittedly they are the ones attempting to stop it via military means).

All the G7 world leaders have stated that Iran cannot be allowed to develop nuclear capabilities. Are they all wrong?

Oh dear…

OMG ‘femwashing’ what misogynistic, garbage corner of the internet did that come from?

FEMWASHING.

Sorry ladies, your campaign for human rights in Iran is deeply problematic because it aligns your western values with the illegal state of Israel. Aaaaaaaaaargh!

What misogynistic wank.

Why does Israel - which has nuclear weapons - get to unilaterally decide which other countries have nuclear weapons programmes?

It's not just Israel who decided Iran should not have nuclear weapons though...

Yes agree. Just had those thoughts since I read that post.

@Duvety I suggest you Google it or read reputable news sources like the BBC.

Well I imagine they don’t really get to decide, but they do if the US gets agnostic about being global policeman. It’s decided that’s not something it’s interested in.

The first thing Iran did was appeal to the US. Their thinking is all out of whack The US is not playing by their old rules.

The claim that Iran is "committed to wiping out Israel" reflects a maximalist interpretation of its political rhetoric, not an unambiguous policy of military annihilation. It's not a 'stated aim' that's enshrined in any kind of legal document.

No western, eastern or Middle Eastern country is “relieved” at the merry he’ll Israel is raining down on multiple peoples in the Middle East. Are you insane? We DO NOT support bombing people, starving people, or terrorising people. Israel are not “the good guys”. How do I know that? Because being “good” doesn’t look like that.

No more bombs. No more killing. That’s what good looks like.

This sort of thing is usually decided by negotiation rather than carpet bombing though. This is an attack by one sovereign nation on another, which does violate international law.

ETA: It's still a huge double standard that Israel is 'allowed' to have nuclear weapons because it refused to sign up to the NPT framework, which Iran did, therefore delegitimising its own programme. That doesn't make either country's nuclear programme more legitimate than the other.

Neither the US or the UK give a shit about Iran, your hand wringing is nauseating.

Israel is just the USA’s lackey.

Very very lazy and offensive comments.

Not lazy or offensive to highlight disparities. Some conflicts are clearly more fashionable than others.

There was no peace for Palestinians. The ignorance here is astounding.

It’s very, very different saying you disagree with something vs believing you have the right to decide to change another country by extreme force.

Me too.