Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?

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Genuinely finding it hard to sleep now having seen the news that Tehran - a population of 10 million are being urgently advised to leave. Is anyone else feeling very concerned (and nervous) watching what is now taking place in the ME? It is being reported that Israel have ‘full ariel control’ of Iran?

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-has-full-control-of-tehrans-airspace-over-100-missile-launchers-destroyed-idf-says/

www.euronews.com/2025/06/17/trump-hints-at-major-israeli-offensive-as-he-urges-all-of-tehran-to-evacuate-immediately

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee

Yes it’s good to think about Iranians suffering with this regime. Women in particular.

Wholeheartedly agree with this.

If the Iranian people could have a sensible, credible and capable govt that would be brilliant…… but there aren’t that many success stories out there from the west forcing regime change are there?! We were welcomed to liberate Afghanistan initially - now look at it😔.

Yes we shouldn’t gloss over this

That is what happened to 22-year-old Kurdish woman Mahsa Amini in September 2022, who was arrested in Tehran for alleged non-compliance with hijab laws while out with her family. She died in police custody, her death triggering nationwide protests for months.

The Iranian regime look like they are on the way out. The Iranian Air Force seem to have been content to let Israel destroy their planes, and their military resistance looks pretty weak.

The message from the Israelis is a bit mixed to put it mildly. Netanyahu says that he does not wish with harm on the Persians and then Israel Katz talks gleefully about bombing ordinary Iranians. I know Iran is a theocracy, but when I hear Israel Katz it strikes me he is almost jealous of the kind of religious power ther is in Iran. I wonder what is the real power in Israel?

All these wars mean Netanyahu does not have to call an election either.

Oh the people who pretend to care about Gaza don't give a shit about those guys.

No Jews, No News.

Presumably this is sarcastic, but it's not that far from I've heard people actually say.

Personally I'm incensed at the amount of UK media attention Gaza has had for the last 18 months at the expense of all the other people suffering in the world.

Much bigger wars, famines, disasters, injustices, etc have all been pushed aside and ignored. People go on and on about aid to Gaza but at least the international community are donating and trying to get aid into there. Other places in greater need are simply ignored.

I'd like to see a world where people care about those who are suffering simply because they are suffering, rather than as a way to crow about those terrible Jews.

By the way, Iran have been deliberately targeting Israeli civilians. Anyone fancy accusing them them of war crimes? Oh.

All these wars mean Netanyahu does not have to call an election either.

He is very obviously going to be tried for war crimes along with most of his government. I doubt there is any way he could be found innocent, so he has nothing to lose.

Very unpopular opinion, no doubt, but genuinely perplexed here.
Many of us will remember the 'dodgy dossier' that Bush and Blair used to push the UK and US into war in Iraq. It was, to quote the tangerine "FAKE NEWS". But it resulted in war and the loss of untold lives. The aim, of course, was regime change and oil.
The border between Israel and Gaza is one of the most heavily fortified, patrolled and monitored in the world. A sparrow cannot fly over without being detected, and a worm canonot crawl below without Israel knowing. Yet on October 7, a handful of Hamas flew over the wall and crawled through tunnels, killed many, captured many, and got back into Gaza... without Israel intelligence knowing in advance, and nobody spotting them or stopping them. Yes, this was Hamas, and obviously it was heinous, evil and wrong. But who looked the other way, or switched off the sensors, or provided a route for a small rag-tag bunch of ill equipped terrorists to get through, kill, capture and escape?
The result, of course, has been devestation across Gaza. Then Lebanon. Then across the sea against Houthis. Now Iran. All are enemies of Israel. But all were made possible and 'acceptable' because Israel perceived a terrible threat. Except, perhaps, maybe... they could have stopped it and chose not to?

I’ve met people who have had to leave Iran. There are quite a few in my city.

Hopefully, this will be a catalyst for change. Iran was funding terror cells. Israel will never let what happened in Nazi Germany happen ever again.

Except, perhaps, maybe... they could have stopped it and chose not to?

You think the government deliberately let Oct 7 happen? Were they in cahoots with Hamas?

Yes I agree. Myself I’d start by removing the ones that have killed and starved thousands in the last 12 months.

No Jews, No News.

Seems so,

Would you describe the mosad operatives embedded in Iran who attacked from within as “terror cells” too

Katz has clarified that Israel does not seek to harm Iranian civilians in Tehran beyond displacing them.

Katz earlier warned that Tehran’s residents would “pay the price” for Iranian missiles that have targeted civilians areas in Israel, killing two dozen people.

“I wish to clarify the obvious: There is no intention to physically harm the residents of Tehran, as the murderous dictator does to the citizens of Israel,” Katz says in a statement.

“The residents of Tehran will be forced to bear the cost of the dictatorship and evacuate their homes from areas where it will be necessary to strike regime targets and security infrastructure in Tehran,” he says.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/katz-says-israel-wont-target-tehrans-civilians-but-they-will-pay-by-being-displaced/

Israel haven’t taken any land since then?

There's ongoing issues in the West Bank, yes. Hamas isn't in charge in the West Bank, only Gaza. The border there has been unchanged since the Israelis withdrew in 2005 and dismantled all the Jewish settlements there.

If one has to clarify the obvious, your statement was not at all clear.

Anyway, Israel is likely to win against Iran and continue its own drift to theocracy as it does so. It’s top tier of government seem highly motivated towards that end.

They did it on a Jewish holiday after a long period of peace. It was a coordinated attack which was funded by Iran.

I get it - you have questions. But you cannot blame Israel for what happened.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67480680.amp

I totally disagree with this. On the whole, the people who care about the Palestinians care deeply about what is happening in Sudan. The Sudanese population in the U.K. that I know of care deeply about what is happening in Palestine.

The situation in Sudan is essentially two rival factions within the same military government in Sudan. It’s a less contentious issue in the U.K. because both sides are clearly at fault. Neither side is receiving military and economic aid / supplies from the west. Neither side has historic ties to the U.K. or have a direct link to previous british foreign policy (the British mandate in Palestine). Neither side have a long history of campaigning within the U.K. as the zionists and Palestinians do. Another key difference is the nature of the conflict - Israel is imposing military occupation and an apartheid regime on a defenceless and stateless people.

Reducing all of this to anti-Semitism is absurd.

The situation in Sudan is essentially two rival factions within the same military government in Sudan. It’s a less contentious issue in the U.K. because both sides are clearly at fault. Neither side is receiving military and economic aid / supplies from the west. Neither side has historic ties to the U.K. or have a direct link to previous british foreign policy (the British mandate in Palestine). Neither side have a long history of campaigning within the U.K. as the zionists and Palestinians do. Another key difference is the nature of the conflict - Israel is imposing military occupation and an apartheid regime on a defenceless and stateless people.

And yet people here have little understanding of the Troubles but are experts in ME politics...

@bombastix explain to me how Israel is a theocracy. I’m not sure you understand the term correctly.

I didn’t say it was!

You haven’t read my posts have you. I’m no defender of Iran or of Israel.
You keep asserting untruths and I’m picking you up on them, that’s all.

Those sorts of posts are so awful when you view against the victims of October 7th

A commentator talked about this Iranian regime being tied to wanting the nuclear programme.

That seems to fit with why U dv L made her statement.