Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?

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Genuinely finding it hard to sleep now having seen the news that Tehran - a population of 10 million are being urgently advised to leave. Is anyone else feeling very concerned (and nervous) watching what is now taking place in the ME? It is being reported that Israel have ‘full ariel control’ of Iran?

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-has-full-control-of-tehrans-airspace-over-100-missile-launchers-destroyed-idf-says/

www.euronews.com/2025/06/17/trump-hints-at-major-israeli-offensive-as-he-urges-all-of-tehran-to-evacuate-immediately

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee

I don't know Israel's motivations, but if there is any chance for the Iranians to rise up against the Ayatollahs I hope they get it.

Every Persian I know hates the bastards. If this knocks off Hamas' funding at the same time I won't lose any sleep.

Trump signed it in the end. The G7 statement from Japan's Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, French President Emmanuel Macron, Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney, U.S. President Donald Trump, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen stated:

"We affirm that Israel has a right to defend itself. We reiterate our support for the security of Israel," G7 leaders said in the statement.

"Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror," the statement added and said the G7 was "clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon."

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/g7-expresses-support-israel-calls-iran-source-instability-2025-06-17/

There are a lot of interesting, verifiable facts in this video from a couple of years ago, which add to the debate.

Just so everyone knows I’m an old hand at the tactics of posters on the CEM threads
Even though there’s a lot of new ones or lots of name changing going on.

I don’t react or baiting posts
No one takes any notice any more and sees them for what they are.

They are entertaining to see though and always make me smirk 🤣

just waiting for everyone to be accused of antisemitism now. That’s another oh but classic……

Do you really think Mossad had that power in1953 ?CIA was involvedbut saying”Mossad installed the shah”!!You please do your “research” somewhere based -if not on fact -at least on plausible lies!

https://www.ochaopt.org/content/humanitarian-situation-update-296-gaza-strip

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/01/09/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-underreported-study-intl

The regime in Iran was in real trouble before the offensive apparently. Most Iranians do not support it and discontent was growing. A lot of protest about the leadership an COL so from an Israeli point of view the timing of the offensive is good.

Strategically Israel have played this well, by destroying Iranian proxies (Hamas and Hezbullah) before destroying air defences and nuclear instalations inside Iran. They were cornered by Iran and its proxies and given the could not seriously be expected to do nothing.

Yes, agree - the Persians I know hate the regime, one of my friends had two of her brothers murdered in prison there just for being on a political demonstration.

I'm praying Iran are freed from the current regime, this is their best chance for decades.

Carpet bombing? Source?

Hamas are resisting Israeli occupation and land theft.

They're resisting fuck all, Israel left Gaza twenty years ago.
Abd now look, their mass rape and murder pogrom is bringing down their bankrollers.

Good Lord! The lack of knowledge on this thread is astounding. People are agreeing that what Israel has done in Gaza is bad and still the fanatics are pushing forward with half truths and misremembered facts about Iran.

The regime has to be toppled. I spoke with many Iranians outside Iran after the protests in last years. According to them the regime made sure to clearrly explain thwy will not go and if people will try to get rid, they will end up like Syria. 11+ year civil war and desolation. Many, many, many in Iran are against the regime but have hands tied.
The regime which is playing around in other countries funding terror groups.

DH is from country stuck in the middle and we have been discussing how ME (or West Asia actually) could look with new Iran. Then we conceded that it would become too stable and influential and West can't have that...

@ArtTheClown so Israel haven’t taken any land since then?

It does concern me how easily captured western people have been by Iranian funded propaganda. No doubt Israel have done terrible things in Gaza and should answer for them. But that does not mean the the decades long ideological crusade by Iran in the levant and Middle East is any less barbaric, hate filled and vile.

Posters here go on and on about listening to Gazans. How about listening to Iranians? How about asking actual Israeli’s how they feel about their government’s actions? Instead of just assuming that you know and that the pro-Iranian/ Hamas regime nonsense you’ve been fed online is how the people in that country really feel.

What happened to listening to voices and uplifting experiences? Or does that only count if it agrees with your narrative.

I saw people on Reddit celebrating Tel Aviv being bombed. It was sick.

In the 70s, Iran was a monarchy and the Shah was pretty much a dictator. I knew two people who'd fled after being imprisoned and tortured, and many just disappeared.

It would be fantastic if Iran could be a functioning democracy one day, but the history of the region makes me think it unlikely to happen in my lifetime.

I think we need to stick to the facts here. The people of Gaza do not have a choice re Hamas, they do not actually have any representation as we know it. Hamas is funded by Iran (and others) to destabilise Israel. That is their only objective. Looking after their own people has never been a priority. We have known this for decades.

Maybe it is a political objective of the west to ensure Iran does not acquire nuclear weapons given how dangerous and unstable the leadership can be. Not unreasonable on the face of it. I am concerned though that this is going to rock the entire region and cause wide spread panic.

If we also take a look at Iran’s participation and position as a key ally in the axis of disorder/evil along with Russia and China - maybe a bigger picture emerges. Maybe the smaller branches of that growing problem are being hacked off.

It looks like Israel might be going for the full set of cards. Regime change in Iran, and absolute control of Gaza and surrounding regions. The others will be next. I have to say their precision and military capacity and ability has been really second to none. How do they contain the reaction of the population?

I am concerned for the innocent people caught up in this, and the escalating situation is extremely hard to watch.

@LakieLady That would be the puppet shah who was dropped into place by the CIA as a friendly head of state. There is a ‘real’ royal family which was deposed to put him into place.

The country has a long and beautiful history (as Persia) and they need the space to reclaim that.

Yes. Both countries are led by appalling power-hungry murderers. The innocent have no hope.

Can you point to any credible reports?

Starmer is quite dangerous because he is spineless but craves power. He bends with the wind. Trump has him in his pocket.

And now we easily sacrifice the lives of thousands to achieve it.

I'm shocked the UK press headlines have very little on Sudan.
You really have to search to find out what is going on and as a result people forget all the suffering and starvation.

Our press is being biased and I'd really love to know why.
Is it Starmer?

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/04/1162241

More than 12.4 million people have been forced from their homes across Sudan – including over 3.3 million refugees who have fled to neighbouring countries – as two years of civil war fuel famine, disease outbreaks and the collapse of the health system.

What are you talking about? Mossad was formed in 1949, the last Shah had been in power since 1941.

I don't agree that Trump has Starmer in his pocket.

I think Starmer has built a good working relationship with Trump for diplomatic reasons and vice versa.