Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?

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Genuinely finding it hard to sleep now having seen the news that Tehran - a population of 10 million are being urgently advised to leave. Is anyone else feeling very concerned (and nervous) watching what is now taking place in the ME? It is being reported that Israel have ‘full ariel control’ of Iran?

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-has-full-control-of-tehrans-airspace-over-100-missile-launchers-destroyed-idf-says/

www.euronews.com/2025/06/17/trump-hints-at-major-israeli-offensive-as-he-urges-all-of-tehran-to-evacuate-immediately

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee

It is changing, I dealt with a number of academics there, many western who’ve spent a number of years in the country.
Their view is that the theocracy saw the way the wind was blowing and realised it would be losing battle to try and maintain the old order against the will of the majority. Hence they’ve just stopped enforcing the unpopular laws

The attacks brutal actions in response to the protests in the pp, were you made aware of that while you were there?

So if others have them you think Iran should?

@SpotOnKid "If Israel hadn't started all this, Iran wouldn't be now so hasty to do what they r doing."

Really?

Iran has been attacking Israel covertly for years using terrorist groups, and you want to blame Israel?

Wow !

Israel are the villains right now. They are actively accused of genocide and have attacked Iran

There seems to be a certain mindset that can only see Israel as ‘villains’ and therefore all other considerations like attacks on Israel, countdown clocks to the annihilation of Israel and actively stated hatred of Jews must be dismissed otherwise people might get the idea that it’s bit more complicated than goodies versus baddies.

I’m not sure how much worse it could get for women in Iran.

Yes... it's very evident that certain posters are obsessed with Israel so find it hard to criticise any other countries actions over anything. Because they always have to return to "yes but...Israel worse".

Not a healthy mindset. The Israel government have made plenty of decisions I disagree with but that doesn't mean other countries are blameless by comparison. Iran in particular.

Yes. Starmer has made us look very weak. Not trusted by Israel to share intelligence, not trusted by the US.

Do you think Netenyahu turned militant overnight or was there a pattern over the last forty years when the world wasn’t paying as much attention? Do you think that might have anything to do with the sentiment in the region? Only peace could solve this, not destroying hundreds of thousands of Palestinians over the last decades. Do you think that may have something to do with tha hatred of Israel in the region?

Between the two regimes, Israeli regime has not exactly been sending flowers to all the Muslim countries around them, including Palestinians and has refused for decades to follow any international rules, including the right wingers (who are in power) assassinating the one PM who wanted to stick to the Oslo Accord and bring peace to the region. Israel has been running a large number of covert ops and proxy wars and is as guilty as the others. And now more.

I don’t know which Jews Houthis hate but I am sure we all equally hate militant Islam or whatever faction of any religion turns militant. As you can see, I abhor organised religions and I believe they are a key issue here. But even in my eyes, the only way forward is to bring all to a table, not attacking and killing people.

If you look at the heart of it all, it is a land and resources issue, not even a religious fight.

People are conflating different conflicts and have decided that since Israel is in the wrong in Gaza, and they attacked Iran in the same time frame, they must also be in the wrong when it comes to Iran.

but if you look at the very different reactions of other countries, Iran’s history in the region, and the history of the attempts to control nuclear weapons in Iran you see it’s very different. Iran is a sovereign nation with a proper military, which Gaza is not.

Now, I don’t trust Netanyahu, so I do find the timing suspicious. However the concerns with Iran are legitimate. And unlike with Palestine, there is not regional unity (in principle if jot action) on the topic of Iran.

That isn’t actually true. The U.K. leads with the accuracy and depth of intelligence sharing, and is highly respected globally as a result. It’s the one thing the U.K. is extremely good at.

If this is true how is it that Starmer can't "smash the gangs" - side issue, I know !

You call genocide of Palestinians ‘bad decisions’? Glad the ICC disagree with you.

Israeli PM is wanted in many peace loving countries in the world, including the U.K.

Starmer is the first one who has introduced this legalisation on accurately recording data so actions can be taken.

Stop spouting inaccuracies.

I'm not going to argue about this as I'm not going to be accused of "derailing".

I also am not going to engage with that poster. I prefer to engage with people who can debate politely.

Fair point about not derailing the thread.

If you are talking about me, please can you tell me where have I been impolite to you?
I apologise if I have been. It is an emotive topic.

It sounds like the US are weighing up taking out the nuclear capability, they are the only ones who can.

Times radio just covering the stealth bomber and how deep it is, saying it’s the time to do it.

I guess we’ll see

Oh I don’t know. The same way it got worse for women in Gaza when Israel started blowing their kids up in bits and bombed the remaining schools, shelters, universities, hospitals…?

Agree Eastern
I believe Trump will support Israel taking out Fordow
according to analysts yesterday Israel need US military capability to do so.

Perhaps that’s Trumps ‘big secret’ …although I think it’s obvious Israel would want to do this.

This is despite Starmer stating yesterday, at the G7 summit, that the US have not indicated they will get involved.

CIA is also planning on installing the exiled Shah’s son - the ruler they installed last time whose brutal policies led to this current Iranian regime in a country that was otherwise beautifully liberal before!

It’s so tragically circular it is now becoming hilarious. And then we wonder why Iranians hate the U.S. This will be the third regime change in their country in the last 80 years, that is not even a couple of generations properly!

https://www.jns.org/iranian-crown-prince-urges-uprising-against-collapsing-regime/

This is nonsense. People think Israel is in the wrong for bombing Gaza AND in the wrong for bombing Iran.
They also think Israel is in the wrong for bombing Syria and Lebanon.
Furthermore, they think Israeli settlers are in the wrong in the West Bank.
Moreover they think the US UK and other countries getting involved is wrong.
Finally, most people’s brains are capable of despising a regime but also not wanting the country to be bombed.
Or feeling for the Palestinians but not supporting Hamas.
Finally the timing of this action leaves observers with no option to conflate the two. Bullying and bombing is the modus operandi of Netanyahu and his cronies and they’re doing it to most of their neighbours right now

"This is despite Starmer stating yesterday, at the G7 summit, that the US have not indicated they will get involved."

Starmer goes which ever way the wind blows. I would say that "he used to be indecisive, but now he's not so sure."

His head must be spinning from all those u-turns.