Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?

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Genuinely finding it hard to sleep now having seen the news that Tehran - a population of 10 million are being urgently advised to leave. Is anyone else feeling very concerned (and nervous) watching what is now taking place in the ME? It is being reported that Israel have ‘full ariel control’ of Iran?

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-has-full-control-of-tehrans-airspace-over-100-missile-launchers-destroyed-idf-says/

www.euronews.com/2025/06/17/trump-hints-at-major-israeli-offensive-as-he-urges-all-of-tehran-to-evacuate-immediately

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee

Good night. Too sleepy to engage anymore tonight. Will reply tomorrow if you discuss something.

So the fact that it's a Jewish state might actually have some relevance?

Everything is relevant but how much of it is actually truly meaningful?

Is U.K. also anti-Jewish then or do they hate the actions of these Israeli regime members due to what they have been doing, likely using their religion to manipulate their people also?
I will reply tomorrow now. Good night.

I don't believe that the UK government has the slogan 'death to Israel, a curse upon Jews', do they?

Like, the Houthis are literally spelling it out for you and you're still trying to pretend that it's nothing to do with it.

Fair point but to which party do you refer?

I become more fearful every time I watch the news.

I know the arguments but I'm so sick of it now. Arrogant men on all sides in a pissing contest sending us to the brink of nuclear war whilst innocent women and children suffer.

I hate it. Just stop ffs.

No, where have I said anything about safety.

Yes and Israel funds Hamas and along with the US and the UK and others funds ISIS and others which it has used, very effectively, for regime change in Libya and Syria.
The US, UK and others conspired to overthrow Irans democratically elected government in the 1960’s.
There’s 3 countries the west has overthrown resulting in millions of deaths. How many has Iran overthrown?

Yes I’m making a comparison, Libya was also going to be a much better place once Gaddafi was gone.
There’s absolutely no evidence that Syria is getting better. There’s been a huge number of mass killings of the Alawite population, the likelihood is Syria will slide into years of sectarian violence and poverty.

It’s under the Rambam medical centre. It’s not a secret

They were refugees from Assad (you know the guy that was killing them with Irans help) , many have settled elsewhere, they can go back if they want.

Thank you.

And thank you @Letstheriveranswer for the original post that got a bit overlooked amongst the chaos.

The civil war went on for 13 years, there are people looking to settle scores and thats shit. If you are arguing that Assad was better and should have been left in place then I will have to disagree. Plus that was not regime change, one guy finally won that war. That is extremely painful for a country.

I predict the opposite, there will be sectarian tension, primarily from muslims towards minorities (which is what we are seeing) but the security situation will settle down and it will slowly inch towards economic progress. Hell some dumbass burned down a Christmas tree in Damascus and Jolani got a new one and ordered his men to guard it. That there is progress, an ex al-qaeda guy buying a xmas tree and getting a bunch of ex-jihadis to look after it. Would an ex-alqaeda member be my first choice, no but he’s what they have and from what I can see there is an actual effort to make syria better than what it was.

Libya is a very different population from Iran, generally highly educated, pretty middle class, increasingly secular (theres been a drop in attendence at mosques with some closing) Libiya has always been pretty lawless. Syria is not Libya is not Iran. They are different population with different histories.

Your argument was that Israel was destabilising the middle east, it’s not. Some countries are destabilising the middle east to intimidate Israel. It’s this weird inversion you see a lot these days. Be the actual aggressor and then claim some sort of victimhood.

Jolani is a fully paid up ISIS western puppet, funded, trained and supplied by Israel and the west. There are plenty of videos of him chopping off people’s heads. He’s funded and equipped by Israel and the west to destabilise Syria and overthrow the Assad government.
He’s done that very well!

The west via its proxies, have overthrown governments in Libya and Syria, the west has instigated coups in Iran which resulted in the Installation of the puppet shah of Iran and the torture and murder of tens of thousands of people
The west has directly invaded Iraq on false pretences of weapons of mass destruction resulting in the deaths of over a million people and 200,000 children.
What has Iran done which is comparable to all of this?

Iranian women were very much involved in anti regime protests, they have been whipped, murdered, many have lost eyes or been disfigured. The idea that women aren’t engaged here is for the birds. Brave teenage girls have taken their scarves off and danced and sang in public, numerous girls have been killed for it,

It’s why the anti regime slogan is “woman, life, freedom”. Most Iranian women and girls would be pretty satisfied with the regime falling I would imagine. They weren’t sitting at home they were in the streets.

I was in Iran for six months last year, work related. I travelled extensively. I’d estimate around 30% of women in Tehran never wore any form of head cover, jeans and t-shirts mainly
There were a lot of young couples being openly affectionate in public as well. It’s not the authoritarian nightmare you might imagine, it’s certainly not Afghanistan. There were thousands women out protesting recently demanding the government hit Israel harder in retaliation.

If you ever want to know what Israel is or Israel does, just listen to what they accuse others of. It's pretty much always 100% and indicator of what they have just done, have always done, or are about to do!

Remember that 'we'd never bomb a hospital it was hammas'... Cut to 2025 and Israel has destroyed not just every single one of Gaza's hospitals, but also every home, school, all infrastructure and they have massively slaughtered the population.

Lovely chaps aren't they..

Thank you for your respectful posts everyone, and for sharing personal experiences of Iran and other places.

It sounds almost western in the way you relay young couples in jeans and uncovered, do you think women feel safe and respected in Iran? If they have become more moderate and secular then who are those keeping up the hate campaign in Iran? I think you are suggesting the more traditional, older generation - and the younger generation is different? Changing?

I think you've quoted the wrong person.

Headline on my morning news feed is "Donald Trump demands Iran's unconditional surrender".

Pisses me right off! What right does he have to "demand" Iran surrender? They didn't start this. Israel attacked them.

What right do USA, Israel and others have to "demand" they refrain from having nuclear weapons?

If course, I understand the concerns with them having nuclear weapons. But one country can't just demand what another one does. It drives me nuts! I would love to demand that Israel, a rogue state accused of genocide, doesn't have nuclear weapons! but it's not our right.

We need to leave other countries alone and stop demanding things, invading them, trying to change their own regimes.

Can you imagine if China came along and "demanded" USA ceased from holding nuclear weapons, and that if Iran attacked them, they should agree to "unconditional surrender"

The west is not god. They are definitely not always the good guys either. Far from it. They need to stop playing god.

If the outcome to this that Iran does develop nuclear weapons would you prefer that?