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Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?

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Fitasafiddle1 · 17/06/2025 04:18

Genuinely finding it hard to sleep now having seen the news that Tehran - a population of 10 million are being urgently advised to leave. Is anyone else feeling very concerned (and nervous) watching what is now taking place in the ME? It is being reported that Israel have ‘full ariel control’ of Iran?

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-has-full-control-of-tehrans-airspace-over-100-missile-launchers-destroyed-idf-says/

www.euronews.com/2025/06/17/trump-hints-at-major-israeli-offensive-as-he-urges-all-of-tehran-to-evacuate-immediately

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee

Blasts rock Tehran, Tel Aviv; Iran warns Israel of ‘devastating’ attacks

Blasts rock Tehran and sirens blare in Tel Aviv as hostilities between Iran and Israel continue for a fifth day.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2025/6/17/live-israel-iran-trade-attacks-trump-orders-residents-of-tehran-to-flee

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Amplepombear · 18/06/2025 10:43

Stirabout · 18/06/2025 10:39

Agree Eastern
I believe Trump will support Israel taking out Fordow
according to analysts yesterday Israel need US military capability to do so.

Perhaps that’s Trumps ‘big secret’ …although I think it’s obvious Israel would want to do this.

This is despite Starmer stating yesterday, at the G7 summit, that the US have not indicated they will get involved.

Edited

MAGA are beyond themselves with fury. Vance can’t control them much longer.

If this could be the end of Trump, it will be one silver lining. But I don’t think I should be this hopeful.

User37482 · 18/06/2025 10:43

Golden407 · 18/06/2025 05:44

Jolani is a fully paid up ISIS western puppet, funded, trained and supplied by Israel and the west. There are plenty of videos of him chopping off people’s heads. He’s funded and equipped by Israel and the west to destabilise Syria and overthrow the Assad government.
He’s done that very well!

He isn’t ISIS, he knew Al-Bagdadi in prison but was never ISIS he avoided them when he arrived in Syria probably had some of them killed (a few people who were supposed to visit mysteriously went missing). He was basically told by al-qaeda that he would be reporting into them and he went “fuck that”. I think he never signed up to the idea of transnational caliphatehoods.

Theres a wealth of information out there if you care to find it.

Stirabout · 18/06/2025 10:45

alikelylass · 18/06/2025 10:43

"This is despite Starmer stating yesterday, at the G7 summit, that the US have not indicated they will get involved."

Starmer goes which ever way the wind blows. I would say that "he used to be indecisive, but now he's not so sure."

His head must be spinning from all those u-turns.

I absolutely agree.
Its extremely worrying having such a weak follower at the helm at the moment. I was merely pointing out
either
Trump hasn’t told anyone at the G7 summit whats actually happening
or
he has and Starmer, for example, is lying.

Given Trump ego I believe it’s the former

tramtracks · 18/06/2025 10:48

Fitasafiddle1 · 18/06/2025 10:00

That isn’t actually true. The U.K. leads with the accuracy and depth of intelligence sharing, and is highly respected globally as a result. It’s the one thing the U.K. is extremely good at.

You are incorrect on this. Israel didn’t share its intelligence and didn’t brief the uk before launching the attack on Iran.
Our intelligence services are good . However Israel and to an extent the USA don’t trust the present UK government on this issue atm.

EasternStandard · 18/06/2025 10:49

alikelylass · 18/06/2025 10:43

"This is despite Starmer stating yesterday, at the G7 summit, that the US have not indicated they will get involved."

Starmer goes which ever way the wind blows. I would say that "he used to be indecisive, but now he's not so sure."

His head must be spinning from all those u-turns.

Yes Starmer won’t know what US will do, no point asking him really.

tramtracks · 18/06/2025 10:50

EasternStandard · 18/06/2025 10:33

It sounds like the US are weighing up taking out the nuclear capability, they are the only ones who can.

Times radio just covering the stealth bomber and how deep it is, saying it’s the time to do it.

I guess we’ll see

From a purely military tech point of view - it will be very interesting to see if this ‘deep’ bomb works as well as it is supposed to.

User37482 · 18/06/2025 10:51

Golden407 · 18/06/2025 05:50

The west via its proxies, have overthrown governments in Libya and Syria, the west has instigated coups in Iran which resulted in the Installation of the puppet shah of Iran and the torture and murder of tens of thousands of people
The west has directly invaded Iraq on false pretences of weapons of mass destruction resulting in the deaths of over a million people and 200,000 children.
What has Iran done which is comparable to all of this?

I’m not disagreeing with any of that. But the point still stands, is Israel right to prevent Tehran from getting a nuke. Yes frankly.

Can they instigate regime change? Well no, no-ones prepared to out boots on the ground, no-one is funnelling weapons to any opposition groups etc, there is no nation building stuff going on, no hearts and minds etc. Iran is basically uninvadvable, everyone knows it. This is not Iraq. Libya is full of jihadis and the Iranians aren’t struggling to get people to go to the mosque.

If the Iranians rise up and kick the shit out of the IRCG then I’ll be pleased to see it. The Iranian regime doesn’t have any right to power. If it can’t keep control of it’s population it will lose power. But thats the key isn’t it, they have to control and terrorise their population to keep their position. I don’t understand why so many are so desperate for these dickheads to stay in charge, mind boggling.

tramtracks · 18/06/2025 10:52

Amplepombear · 18/06/2025 10:03

You call genocide of Palestinians ‘bad decisions’? Glad the ICC disagree with you.

Israeli PM is wanted in many peace loving countries in the world, including the U.K.

Edited

I’ve missed this announcement. Didn’t realise that the UK has called for the arrest of BN.

tramtracks · 18/06/2025 10:52

Twiglets1 · 18/06/2025 10:08

I also am not going to engage with that poster. I prefer to engage with people who can debate politely.

Yes - me too.

alikelylass · 18/06/2025 10:53

@Thegreyhound "Bullying and bombing is the modus operandi of Netanyahu and his cronies and they’re doing it to most of their neighbours right now"

Maybe if their neighbors hadn't been attacking them with terrorist proxies for decades it would be different.

Don't forget Palestine rejected statehood in 1948.

A resolution was put forward that called for the withdrawal of British forces from what was then called "Palestine" and termination of the Mandate by 1 August 1948, and establishment of the new independent states by 1 October 1948.

The leaders of the Jewish Agency for Palestine accepted the plan, while Arab leaders refused it

Amplepombear · 18/06/2025 10:53

tramtracks · 18/06/2025 10:52

I’ve missed this announcement. Didn’t realise that the UK has called for the arrest of BN.

Wherever ICC can get to him and U.K. is one of those countries.

tramtracks · 18/06/2025 11:07

Amplepombear · 18/06/2025 10:53

Wherever ICC can get to him and U.K. is one of those countries.

So the UK hasn’t called for his arrest?

alikelylass · 18/06/2025 11:13

tramtracks · 18/06/2025 11:07

So the UK hasn’t called for his arrest?

The UK hasn't but ICJ has.

This is from 2014 - www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjr4gvydxeno

Amplepombear · 18/06/2025 11:15

tramtracks · 18/06/2025 11:07

So the UK hasn’t called for his arrest?

He is wanted by the ICC which has crucial U.K. members and backing, and U.K. has also sanctioned his cabinet members.

Where did I say the U.K. government has called for his arrest?

Why are you so worried about someone wanted for war crimes by the ICC and considered a genocidal, far right supporter by several international organisations? The lunatic Irani regime needs dismantling but by their own people. Not by someone wanted by the ICC.

ICC, fully supported by the U.K. governments, have issued arrest warrants for him.
What else do you want them to do? Send an assassin? Or bomb the hell out of Israel? Civilised nations and institutions do not do that.

tramtracks · 18/06/2025 11:20

“The Israeli PM is wanted in many peace loving countries in the world, including the UK”

Amplepombear · 18/06/2025 11:22

tramtracks · 18/06/2025 11:20

“The Israeli PM is wanted in many peace loving countries in the world, including the UK”

And? Did you read my post in its entirety? I have explained what I mean. Do you have anything to say about those points?

knitnerd90 · 18/06/2025 11:22

Trump is changing his mind hourly, so Starmer can’t say what he will or won’t do.

noblegiraffe · 18/06/2025 11:23

Amplepombear · 18/06/2025 09:38

Do you think Netenyahu turned militant overnight or was there a pattern over the last forty years when the world wasn’t paying as much attention? Do you think that might have anything to do with the sentiment in the region? Only peace could solve this, not destroying hundreds of thousands of Palestinians over the last decades. Do you think that may have something to do with tha hatred of Israel in the region?

Between the two regimes, Israeli regime has not exactly been sending flowers to all the Muslim countries around them, including Palestinians and has refused for decades to follow any international rules, including the right wingers (who are in power) assassinating the one PM who wanted to stick to the Oslo Accord and bring peace to the region. Israel has been running a large number of covert ops and proxy wars and is as guilty as the others. And now more.

I don’t know which Jews Houthis hate but I am sure we all equally hate militant Islam or whatever faction of any religion turns militant. As you can see, I abhor organised religions and I believe they are a key issue here. But even in my eyes, the only way forward is to bring all to a table, not attacking and killing people.

If you look at the heart of it all, it is a land and resources issue, not even a religious fight.

Edited

Why do you say “I don’t know which Jews Houthis hate?”

Why would you assume it isn’t all of them? Are you trying to make “a curse upon Jews” more acceptable?

It is really interesting how you are trying to dodge the really long history of Jew hate.

Like historically Jews have been expelled from many countries, including our own, targeted, killed. The ‘Final Solution’ was a dedicated attempt to kill them all.

But when the Houthis say “a curse upon Jews” your assumption is that they don’t actually mean it? Or only some Jews?

And similarly, when people state a desire to annihilate Israel, which is a Jewish state, again you don’t think they really mean it.

Is the lesson you have learned from history really “they don’t really mean it” when people say they hate Jews?

mousehole · 18/06/2025 11:28

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Stirabout · 18/06/2025 11:34

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A technicality
The 124 countries in the ICC are obliged to abide by the arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu
Whilst, agree, the UK and all others haven’t issued individual warrants.

Iran - full evacuation of Tehran?
CleverButScatty · 18/06/2025 14:12

PurpleAxe · 17/06/2025 08:39

Oh the people who pretend to care about Gaza don't give a shit about those guys.

No Jews, No News.

Is it really beyond your comprehension that people can despise what isreal is doing in Gaza, without it being driven by an obsession with Jews?

Stirabout · 18/06/2025 17:13

CleverButScatty · 18/06/2025 14:12

Is it really beyond your comprehension that people can despise what isreal is doing in Gaza, without it being driven by an obsession with Jews?

Edited

Agree Clever
I’m shocked some people don’t care about the people in Gaza. Whoever they are.
The IDF have upped their game in terms of killing people trying to get a bag of flour.
Whats wrong with people.

and no, I don’t care what religion people are. We all belong to the same human race. Why some people think we have an obsession with Jewish people is pure delusions of grandeur and a quick way on these threads to put people down.

Dangermoo · 18/06/2025 17:30

Stirabout · 18/06/2025 17:13

Agree Clever
I’m shocked some people don’t care about the people in Gaza. Whoever they are.
The IDF have upped their game in terms of killing people trying to get a bag of flour.
Whats wrong with people.

and no, I don’t care what religion people are. We all belong to the same human race. Why some people think we have an obsession with Jewish people is pure delusions of grandeur and a quick way on these threads to put people down.

Delusions of grandeur? Just when you think it can't get any lower.

Theshsmpoo · 18/06/2025 17:37

Amplepombear · 18/06/2025 00:12

We can play this game all night. I can bring out plenty of anti-Muslim posts from Israeli regime’s pillars and you can bring out many anti-Jewish posts.

But what do you think about the rest of what I have typed here. This is a very nuanced situation and serving only the oligarchs who are getting richer by the minute.

The rest of us are paying for this and want it all to stop and negotiations started. I hate the mullahs, and hate the Israeli regime too.

wow!!!

Stirabout · 18/06/2025 17:37

Dangermoo · 18/06/2025 17:30

Delusions of grandeur? Just when you think it can't get any lower.

I agree.

The bar has seriously dropped below anything I would ever have expected since Israel attacked Iran last week.